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Steven Universe Mafia |OT| We'll always save the day
- Thread starter Dr. Monkey
- Start date
From the looks of things only nin responded to your comment about him not lying, so I guess you are right there. Still why didn't you discuss things with Queen Kong more about the potential scum flavors? After that you focused on whether exodus was lying about the lightning rod because of nin's claim.
Why would I have chosen kong to argue with? She wasn't nine's biggest critic nor did she leave a reason for nin on the same day. The only thing close to a reason that was left the entire game was nine's voting history. Besides, if I believe nin and exo doesn't and I doubt the validity of the lightning rod at the time, why wouldn't I take that route?
If y'all are gonna come at me for majority flavor discussion at least tell me it's not because you ignored/dodged everything else
I'm asking partly because I'm trying to better understand your reasoning for voting Queen Kong today. Part of your argument is that you think Queen tricked you into not considering one of the scum flavors being Blue Diamond because she limited the options to early season villains.
While she wasn't the biggest critic of nin, by suggesting it's only early season villains, that means that Peridot would probably be a scum role, but you didn't think nin who was claiming to be Peridot was, so why didn't you argue further with Queen Kong about whether Peridot could be scum or not?
I'm not criticizing your choice to pursue exo's lightning rod claim, I'm just curious why you completely dropped that discussion with Queen Kong.
No, she didn't. I said I thought that might have been part of a plan but that's not why I voted nin
I said I didn't think peridot was scum in this game
She said she did because it's season 1 villains
I didn't think the scum team was limited to season 1 with a small theory back at the beginning of the game that exo could be topaz
That was a stalemate until malus flipped to prove me right that it goes beyond season 1
Well. We did bandwagon on nin and it became even more fast after QK commented peridot.
Z-Beats. If QK is indeed mafia as you say, who do you think are the 1-2 remaining mafiosi?
Z-Beats. If QK is indeed mafia as you say, who do you think are the 1-2 remaining mafiosi?
Mmm I felt like reki or loki would be a good place for scum to be as a perfect cover but I'm tryna do that one at a time
B-Dubs the question was if your fusion works like exo's does
I want to apologize for my earlier questions. When I read your statement on Queen Kong earlier, I missed your explanation for why you voted nin then, and it wasn't until you explained later that I noticed it. So sorry for the confusion there. All I was saying in particular statement is that that part of your reason for voting for Queen is because you think she tried to trick you.
I get that you had two different opinions on that matter, I was just curious why you didn't debate it further or at least state that you disagreed with her before moving on. It just felt weird to me that you suddenly dropped the conversation.
Ok, first; sorry malus. You always lunch the red check but replacing, reading hundreds of posts and being voted out on the same phase isn't really nice. Hope to eventually play with you again!
I'd been looking over the last pages, so apologies if I bring up some old stuff. #1569;
I missed this, could you share the post?
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#398;
#1580;
#2031;
Would you be as kind as to expand on this, Neon?
I'd been looking over the last pages, so apologies if I bring up some old stuff. #1569;
I missed this, could you share the post?
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#398;
#1580;
#2031;
Would you be as kind as to expand on this, Neon?
I think I said this yesterday, but it does not. It's why I think he's still lying about how his power works.
At this moment, Reki and Exodus are basically confirmed town for me. I really don't think Exo was busing
I'm feeling pretty good about Stan, Loki, and Neon. They all seem to be trying to solve the game. I probably wouldn't vote here.
I'm starting to feel a bit worse about Queen Kong and Ketkat. Ketkat feels like she kind of melted away as we got later into the game, and I think a lot of the points brought up about QK are valid. I want to still say QK is just a confused new town, but she does seem to be laying it on a bit thick at times.
Anyway, my scum list hasn't changed at all. Oreo, Z-Beat, and B-Dubs. Oreo gets a bit of bonus points for linking Devious and nin a couple of days ago, but he didn't really follow through when the time came. Might of just been a townie who lost confidence in their read, but it also could of easily been busing, so I'm not removing him from this list. B-Dubs coming in here and giving Exodus some jabs is also giving me bad vibes. Scum Malus already tried that, friend. It didn't go his way.
I'm feeling pretty good about Stan, Loki, and Neon. They all seem to be trying to solve the game. I probably wouldn't vote here.
I'm starting to feel a bit worse about Queen Kong and Ketkat. Ketkat feels like she kind of melted away as we got later into the game, and I think a lot of the points brought up about QK are valid. I want to still say QK is just a confused new town, but she does seem to be laying it on a bit thick at times.
Anyway, my scum list hasn't changed at all. Oreo, Z-Beat, and B-Dubs. Oreo gets a bit of bonus points for linking Devious and nin a couple of days ago, but he didn't really follow through when the time came. Might of just been a townie who lost confidence in their read, but it also could of easily been busing, so I'm not removing him from this list. B-Dubs coming in here and giving Exodus some jabs is also giving me bad vibes. Scum Malus already tried that, friend. It didn't go his way.
Naturally.
First, let me apologize for my lack of activity today. I'm exhausted as I stayed up late yesterday (playing Luigi's mansion in one sitting). I'll try to remain active the rest of the phase.
Back to the matter at hand. I don't really know what to think about Lokiduck. On the one hand, she has been an incredobly active player in this game starting each day with initiafive and asking questions. On the other hand I can't help but feel that that would be the perfect disguise for. La scum. The null dip was because I noticed that she and Chugg shaeed all votes with each other.
Of course, I've got nothing to back that up more than gut feeling. And so far, she has been a good pro town player, the rational part of me thinks she can't be scum. So for the time being she reads a stown for me.
What made you see those as jabs at Exodus and not on Reki? Personally, I have no idea why Malus came out and claimed that Exodus was scum like that. Their roles do seem to be counters to each other, so it felt to me that if anything fishy was going on there it was with Reki redchecking someone. Like, lots of people were suspicious of WSD as it was, and while it's possible that Malus could have brought it back, scum could have gone for a redcheck there, and it didn't even require a roleclaim with the way that Sawneeks power works
I can understand where you're coming from, since I'm in a similar position regarding her, but the contradiction here is that a player that's super active and constantly asks and answers a lot of stuff obviously creates a lot of connections and data to read through.
So what do you think of the actual content she has put out beyond "pro town"? Because a town read mainly based on quantity could be misread as dismissing the actual game-solving she has done.
I'm going to owe you that one for a coupke of hours because responding that in a thouhtful manner will require me to reread all 190+ of her posts and I kinda need a nap.
I'll do a redux about this tppic later tonight. Toodles everyone.
Oh, I wasn't asking for a full re-read, sorry! And have a nice nap.
Anyways, what do you all think of the fact we have yet to see a claim about the cop check item? I'm a bit weirded out by it to be honest, since I expected at least a fake claim of that to deviate discussion from hitting them. Maybe Sawneeks didn't hand out that one?
Anyways, what do you all think of the fact we have yet to see a claim about the cop check item? I'm a bit weirded out by it to be honest, since I expected at least a fake claim of that to deviate discussion from hitting them. Maybe Sawneeks didn't hand out that one?
I've been wondering about that too. Out of the gifts listed it seemed like one of the better ones to hand out.
As I was speculating earlier, there is a possibility of up to 5 that could have been given out since exo only got the gif bomb on night 2, and in theory he would have gotten both items unless Neeks gifts aren't affected by the rod. So far we know that the Lightning rod, lie detector, and one gif bomb were given out.
What night were you given the lie detector Reki?
If it wasn't superceded by the night kill, sawneeks had time to hand out 6, yeah?
Night 3 I believe? The one in which she was killed.
As a side-note the phases have been getting a bit fuzzy for me. Like, it feels like we've been trapped in this beach town for days.
Yeah, but she probably didn't hand out the important stuff N1, since she probably didn't trust anyone enough to do so. In that sense I have to wonder if she wanted to get exodus killed at that point.
Ah okay then. If that's the case then she did at least give one gift on night three. But you are completely right, three aren't many pages in this thread, but I'm still having a hard time keeping track of what happened on what day.
So based on what Reki said, then that means...
Night 1: Sawneeks gives lightning rod to exodus (why we don't know either to kill him or throw off Scums game maybe?)
Night 2: She sends the gif bomb either directly to exodus or it goes to him because of the rod. Some have speculated that maybe nin was hit with one too but we don't know if that was the case or was even possible.
Night 3: She sends Reki the Lie Detector.
So far it seems one item was sent out each night unless someone else comes forward.
Night 1: Sawneeks gives lightning rod to exodus (why we don't know either to kill him or throw off Scums game maybe?)
Night 2: She sends the gif bomb either directly to exodus or it goes to him because of the rod. Some have speculated that maybe nin was hit with one too but we don't know if that was the case or was even possible.
Night 3: She sends Reki the Lie Detector.
So far it seems one item was sent out each night unless someone else comes forward.
In that scenario - and if she only sent one item N1 as I'm speculating - there's just one unaccounted for, most probably on N3. If it was the vest, we won't get a claim since that defeats the purpose, but the cop check seems like such a better item that I doubt she didn't hand it out.
What I'm guessing now is that it could have gone to mafia, and they didn't want to make a gambit with it because they're being cautious after the last one backfired on malus.
What I'm guessing now is that it could have gone to mafia, and they didn't want to make a gambit with it because they're being cautious after the last one backfired on malus.
The cop check would be the strongest, but also the one you'd absolutely want in the hands of a townie. I could see sawneeks waiting until they were sure of someone.
Which if that is the case, then we probably missed out on our chance of a copy check. :/
But, I don't think anyone has done this. So, let's lay out the voting paths and read lists of the 2 scum so far.
EzekalRage
#1,293 - 💀EzekelRAGE was eliminated!
#1,291 - Day 2 ends!
#1,284 - KetKat voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,265 - TheChuggernaut voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,240 - 💀Sawneeks voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,173 - exodus voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,138 - Reki voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,114 - Stantastic voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#922 - 💀EzekelRAGE voted for TheChuggernaut
#720 - Day 2 begins!
#712 - Day 1 ends!
#635 - 💀EzekelRAGE voted for TheChuggernaut
#562 -exodus voted for 💀EzekelRAGE (Double)
(Unvote: #624)
#136 - Day 1 begins!
Zeke starts the day off by talking with Lokiduck briefly and being suspicious of Chuggernaut immediately, as well as mentioning that he doesn't trust Sawneeks for it as well.
This quote below is in response to Chuggernaut expressing frustration at EzekalRAGE.
This is after Exo has claimed that he has a double vote and mentions that he reads it as NAI from Exo.
The rest of these are pretty self-explanatory but he started to press Chuggernaut more and more and really wanted to see him gone Day 1.
Day 2
Zeke starts Day 2 off by talking about flavor some surrounding Exodus and then wanting more info on B-dubs.
These interactions and opinions on B-dubs are interesting because they're kind of bizarre. B-dubs ended up shooting the person that was leading votes very early in the day, and Ezekal and B-dubs talk about how they should vote for the 2 people who were on that person early on. Ezekal does this and continuously talks about how he doesn't trust B-dubs, but never once puts a vote down on him.
WhySoDevious/Malus
#1,980 - 💀malus was eliminated!
#1,977 - Day 4 ends!
#1,974 - Reki voted for 💀malus
#1,972 - TheChuggernaut voted for 💀malus
#1,971 - TheChuggernaut unvoted 💀malus
#1,958 - Z-Beat voted for 💀malus
#1,956 - B-Dubs unvoted 💀malus
#1,954 -B-Dubs voted for 💀malus
(Unvote: #1,956)
#1,951 - NeonBorealis voted for 💀malus
#1,942 - exodus voted for 💀malus
#1,939 - KetKat voted for 💀malus
#1,936 - Queen Kong voted for 💀malus
#1,933 -TheChuggernaut voted for 💀malus
(Unvote: #1,971)
#1,932 - Stantastic voted for 💀malus
#1,926 -Stantastic voted for 💀malus
(Unvote: #1,931)
#1,725 -Queen Kong voted for 💀malus
(Unvote: #1,784)
#1,648 - 💀malus voted for exodus
#1,647 -exodus voted for 💀malus
(Unvote: #1,942)
#1,625 - Day 4 begins!
#1,622 - 💀WhySoDevious was replaced by 💀malus
#1,618 - Day 3 ends!
#1,374 - Day 3 begins!
#1,291 - Day 2 ends!
#1,247 - 💀WhySoDevious voted for TheChuggernaut
#1,202 -💀WhySoDevious voted for oreomunsta
(Unvote: #1,247)
#1,182 - 💀WhySoDevious unvoted Stantastic
#740 -💀WhySoDevious voted for Stantastic
(Unvote: #1,182)
#720 - Day 2 begins!
#712 - Day 1 ends!
#710 - 💀Meatwad voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#697 - 💀WhySoDevious voted for Stantastic
#589 - B-Dubs voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#510 - oreomunsta voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#136 - Day 1 begins!
WhySoDevious Posts
Day 1
At this point, the votes on weemadarthur were : Sawneeks, Ketkat, Stantastic, TheChuggernaut, and lokiduck and no more votes were placed on wee before the day ended
Day 2
These are all the posts from WhySoDevious that give reads or interactions with other players, and while there isn't a large number of them, I think we can actually see some useful interactions here. WSD was putting a lot of distance between Zeke and himself, and it makes me wonder how much he was doing that with anyone else on his team. It's worth noting that line about scum being on weemadarthur train specifically, and the way that he starts scum reading two specific people out of it in Stantastic and TheChuggernaut
Malus posts
Most of malus posts in the thread center around this very first one where he came in and immediately tried to tell us that Exodus is scum, and implies that EzekalRage vs Chuggernaut was Scum v Town.
Malus contributions are a little less than WSD's which is expected since he was only here for 1 Day, but his reads are very different and he starts throwing shade at Exodus and Z-beat in particular. Oreo gets an honorable mention.
Outside of the Exodus plan, Z-beat was already receiving a lot of heat and Queen Kong had received a little bit of talk about whether she was actually new enough. Oreo was on quite a few people's radar as well. These feel like much safer reads than the one's from WSD.
Notably out of both of these two neither wants to investigate B-dubs and they believe that he is in fact a Town DayVig. No one has really been pushing for a B-dubs flip too hard, but it's interesting they went for the Exodus plan over one that could implicate B-dubs.
I'm going to have more in-depth thoughts on these soon, but going back through and reading all of these posts and gathering them really turns my brain into mush. I wanted to go ahead and put these out here in one comprehensive place and get some thoughts from all of you on this though
EzekalRage
#1,293 - 💀EzekelRAGE was eliminated!
#1,291 - Day 2 ends!
#1,284 - KetKat voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,265 - TheChuggernaut voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,240 - 💀Sawneeks voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,173 - exodus voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,138 - Reki voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#1,114 - Stantastic voted for 💀EzekelRAGE
#922 - 💀EzekelRAGE voted for TheChuggernaut
#720 - Day 2 begins!
#712 - Day 1 ends!
#635 - 💀EzekelRAGE voted for TheChuggernaut
#562 -
(Unvote: #624)
#136 - Day 1 begins!
Zeke starts the day off by talking with Lokiduck briefly and being suspicious of Chuggernaut immediately, as well as mentioning that he doesn't trust Sawneeks for it as well.
This quote below is in response to Chuggernaut expressing frustration at EzekalRAGE.
This is after Exo has claimed that he has a double vote and mentions that he reads it as NAI from Exo.
The rest of these are pretty self-explanatory but he started to press Chuggernaut more and more and really wanted to see him gone Day 1.
Day 2
Zeke starts Day 2 off by talking about flavor some surrounding Exodus and then wanting more info on B-dubs.
These interactions and opinions on B-dubs are interesting because they're kind of bizarre. B-dubs ended up shooting the person that was leading votes very early in the day, and Ezekal and B-dubs talk about how they should vote for the 2 people who were on that person early on. Ezekal does this and continuously talks about how he doesn't trust B-dubs, but never once puts a vote down on him.
WhySoDevious/Malus
#1,980 - 💀malus was eliminated!
#1,977 - Day 4 ends!
#1,974 - Reki voted for 💀malus
#1,972 - TheChuggernaut voted for 💀malus
#1,971 - TheChuggernaut unvoted 💀malus
#1,958 - Z-Beat voted for 💀malus
#1,956 - B-Dubs unvoted 💀malus
#1,954 -
(Unvote: #1,956)
#1,951 - NeonBorealis voted for 💀malus
#1,942 - exodus voted for 💀malus
#1,939 - KetKat voted for 💀malus
#1,936 - Queen Kong voted for 💀malus
#1,933 -
(Unvote: #1,971)
#1,932 - Stantastic voted for 💀malus
#1,926 -
(Unvote: #1,931)
#1,725 -
(Unvote: #1,784)
#1,648 - 💀malus voted for exodus
#1,647 -
(Unvote: #1,942)
#1,625 - Day 4 begins!
#1,622 - 💀WhySoDevious was replaced by 💀malus
#1,618 - Day 3 ends!
#1,374 - Day 3 begins!
#1,291 - Day 2 ends!
#1,247 - 💀WhySoDevious voted for TheChuggernaut
#1,202 -
(Unvote: #1,247)
#1,182 - 💀WhySoDevious unvoted Stantastic
#740 -
(Unvote: #1,182)
#720 - Day 2 begins!
#712 - Day 1 ends!
#710 - 💀Meatwad voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#697 - 💀WhySoDevious voted for Stantastic
#589 - B-Dubs voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#510 - oreomunsta voted for 💀WhySoDevious
#136 - Day 1 begins!
WhySoDevious Posts
Day 1
At this point, the votes on weemadarthur were : Sawneeks, Ketkat, Stantastic, TheChuggernaut, and lokiduck and no more votes were placed on wee before the day ended
Day 2
These are all the posts from WhySoDevious that give reads or interactions with other players, and while there isn't a large number of them, I think we can actually see some useful interactions here. WSD was putting a lot of distance between Zeke and himself, and it makes me wonder how much he was doing that with anyone else on his team. It's worth noting that line about scum being on weemadarthur train specifically, and the way that he starts scum reading two specific people out of it in Stantastic and TheChuggernaut
Malus posts
Most of malus posts in the thread center around this very first one where he came in and immediately tried to tell us that Exodus is scum, and implies that EzekalRage vs Chuggernaut was Scum v Town.
Malus contributions are a little less than WSD's which is expected since he was only here for 1 Day, but his reads are very different and he starts throwing shade at Exodus and Z-beat in particular. Oreo gets an honorable mention.
Outside of the Exodus plan, Z-beat was already receiving a lot of heat and Queen Kong had received a little bit of talk about whether she was actually new enough. Oreo was on quite a few people's radar as well. These feel like much safer reads than the one's from WSD.
Notably out of both of these two neither wants to investigate B-dubs and they believe that he is in fact a Town DayVig. No one has really been pushing for a B-dubs flip too hard, but it's interesting they went for the Exodus plan over one that could implicate B-dubs.
I'm going to have more in-depth thoughts on these soon, but going back through and reading all of these posts and gathering them really turns my brain into mush. I wanted to go ahead and put these out here in one comprehensive place and get some thoughts from all of you on this though
Still going through it Ketkat, but that's a lot of effort. Thank you.
My problem with this is, if we mislunch today, someone coming tomorrow with a fake claim like "Hey everyone, I got a red check on X (love you Sawneeks!)" could put us in a hard spot. It won't be pretty.
I can relate to this. I believe there's a setting to disable draft saving, but don't quote me on that.
My problem with this is, if we mislunch today, someone coming tomorrow with a fake claim like "Hey everyone, I got a red check on X (love you Sawneeks!)" could put us in a hard spot. It won't be pretty.
I can relate to this. I believe there's a setting to disable draft saving, but don't quote me on that.
If someone does this, just don't believe them. It's been an entire day phase since Sawneeks has died, so at the latest they should have used it is last night phase. I don't know why someone would sit on either a green or a red check if it's unrelated to their role
Just woke up. And while the post I promised will still take some time , I want to clear something up.
I was the one who recieved the cop check on night 3. I used it on KetKat (one of my neutral reads) and she came up as town.
I didn't want to share it because I wanted to wait for some player reactions.
Oh well.
I was the one who recieved the cop check on night 3. I used it on KetKat (one of my neutral reads) and she came up as town.
I didn't want to share it because I wanted to wait for some player reactions.
Oh well.
I had a look at Neon early posts this morning. It appears Neon and Zeke were both on Chugg in the earlier days.
No time now but I'll post my thoughts later.
Z you still haven't told us why you thought Oreo would be killed?
No time now but I'll post my thoughts later.
Z you still haven't told us why you thought Oreo would be killed?
malus knew the way he started the day was a risky gambit, and as such probably made those safe reads to both gain town cred and mess with the connections you could pinpoint from WSD's stuff.
If I'm getting this right you're getting ready to point at B-Dubs?
What.
You can't drop that just like that.
I figured I would hold on to it till the end of the day in order to assess players. But seeing as the conversation has gone towards the cop check I figures I might as well spill the beans.
Well, I am town but dang. That doesn't help me with the people I'm unsure about!
Honestly. Dunmo. I do 't really know you guys well enough to know how you generally play.
Perhaps it was because she read through my (imo)exhausting rerads of the thread and my wsd suspicion.
Or maybe she caught my previous breadcrumbs.
Well that's certainly interesting and if it's true then that means Ket is town. It also tells us what the second present was on night 3 and is actually something we can varify because of anyone else received a present on night 3, then we have a contradiction that we can debate over. :o