But, this is an accusation that you're scum. I'm going to read into it a bunch!
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But, this is an accusation that you're scum. I'm going to read into it a bunch!
Ok. Now that I've thought about it enough, things have slowed down and it won't be a double post I can share this with you all.
I received the lie detector last night (thank you Sawneeks!). It can check the veracity of one statement with Monkey. It has to be a sentence from a post from today going forward. There're a few ways I could have played this - like not saying anything and checking an unprompted sentence - but ultimately decided that transparency was the best option.
And so I propose a little exercise. I'll ask you all to make a post that only contains, without the quotation marks, the line;
"I'm aligned with mafia."
Why that and no "I'm aligned with town."? Because a "FALSE" result on that front still leaves us with the chance of a potential neutral. Some win conditions can make a neutral side with town, so I'd prefer to phrase it the other way around to be sure if someone is mafia aligned or not.
After, and only AFTER we have the 12 posts, we'll discuss/vote for who do we want to verify. Why? Because we can cast doubt on anyone who refuses to post that line before knowing if they'll be actually checked. Mafia will probably try to mess with the discussion too, but that gives us more information to look at later. I'd be extremely wary of anyone getting in the way of advancing with the exercise, for example.
Since the result will be shared through a PM I know this is ultimately an appeal to your trust on me. So yes, I'm putting all of my town points - as nin liked to say - on the line this time.
Before starting it would be nice to know if everyone is okay with this way of using the item or do you think things should be done differently.
Going out as I post this but I'll answer any questions as soon as possible. Which could be not too soon. Sorry.
I received the lie detector last night (thank you Sawneeks!). It can check the veracity of one statement with Monkey. It has to be a sentence from a post from today going forward. There're a few ways I could have played this - like not saying anything and checking an unprompted sentence - but ultimately decided that transparency was the best option.
And so I propose a little exercise. I'll ask you all to make a post that only contains, without the quotation marks, the line;
"I'm aligned with mafia."
Why that and no "I'm aligned with town."? Because a "FALSE" result on that front still leaves us with the chance of a potential neutral. Some win conditions can make a neutral side with town, so I'd prefer to phrase it the other way around to be sure if someone is mafia aligned or not.
After, and only AFTER we have the 12 posts, we'll discuss/vote for who do we want to verify. Why? Because we can cast doubt on anyone who refuses to post that line before knowing if they'll be actually checked. Mafia will probably try to mess with the discussion too, but that gives us more information to look at later. I'd be extremely wary of anyone getting in the way of advancing with the exercise, for example.
Since the result will be shared through a PM I know this is ultimately an appeal to your trust on me. So yes, I'm putting all of my town points - as nin liked to say - on the line this time.
Before starting it would be nice to know if everyone is okay with this way of using the item or do you think things should be done differently.
Going out as I post this but I'll answer any questions as soon as possible. Which could be not too soon. Sorry.
Now, the issue here is that Malus's claim came after days on inactivity by WSD which puts doubt into the whole thing. Then again, WSD was very inactive through the game so I really can't get a good read on him besides his null read on Zeke.
So far, you have read as null to me. However, thtat is a bold plan. I'm all for it if it does indeed give us information.
I just hope we pick the correct person and they end up scum because if they are town, that might get them NK'd.
While we wait for the others to post, I'd like to reopen discussion. As inactivity in a mafia game really ticks me off.
So. lokiduck Z-Beat TheChuggernaut , and the others. What do you think of the developements so far. What are your reads?
So. lokiduck Z-Beat TheChuggernaut , and the others. What do you think of the developements so far. What are your reads?
Thank you all for your cooperation! And yeah, keep discussing. The item isn't an excuse not to do so.
Sawneeks highlighted two posts from WSD that looked a bit suspicious. Let me dig those.
This isn't the first time you make this kind of statement. You obviously said you can't determine what that is, but could you elaborate on what's giving you those bad vibes?
Sawneeks highlighted two posts from WSD that looked a bit suspicious. Let me dig those.
This isn't the first time you make this kind of statement. You obviously said you can't determine what that is, but could you elaborate on what's giving you those bad vibes?
Heya. At work atm so i dont have a ton of time to play rn.
So firstly bout malus's thing against exodus, im also in the camp of not really being able to buy it right now, it coming this late does seem suspect and iv been feeling good about exos side if things for the last couple days, even moreso eith how well he continues to hold up to scrutiny.
If yoy really want yo make this happen imma need more than just taking your word for it, your call on if you think reveal more is worth it tho.
As for rekis idea, this sounds like its gonna be like the blood testing scene in The Thing and im so down for this.
So firstly bout malus's thing against exodus, im also in the camp of not really being able to buy it right now, it coming this late does seem suspect and iv been feeling good about exos side if things for the last couple days, even moreso eith how well he continues to hold up to scrutiny.
If yoy really want yo make this happen imma need more than just taking your word for it, your call on if you think reveal more is worth it tho.
As for rekis idea, this sounds like its gonna be like the blood testing scene in The Thing and im so down for this.
Is this power going to take a night to use?
If someone has protection power perhaps it's a good time to use it on Reki.
nin's death doesn't change the fact that WSD and Z-beat were on Chuggs. But I dunno who to trust anymore.
I thought sawneeks was safe since her death doesn't put suspicion on anyone, but I was wrong.
If someone has protection power perhaps it's a good time to use it on Reki.
nin's death doesn't change the fact that WSD and Z-beat were on Chuggs. But I dunno who to trust anymore.
I thought sawneeks was safe since her death doesn't put suspicion on anyone, but I was wrong.
Since I also suspected WSD, and malus put a suspicious vote on exodus who I think is town, I will
Vote: malus
Vote: malus
Well, yes. But we'll probably choose one of the most suspicious players, so the chances they could be lunched were high anyways. And mafia could also do the opposite. Avoid that target so next phase you'd be all asking if I was just playing you.
The bigger caveat I had is that we could be wasting the item on a target a potential cop could have already checked. If that's the case, and this potential cop is reading this, please don't claim. Wasting a lie detector is way easier to swallow than a cop risking a NK.
These are the posts I meant NeonBorealis. Keep in mind the WSD stuff is from D1.
As far as I know, no, it doesn't take a night. I'll ask just to be sure though.
I'll be looking over Sawneeks' stuff tomorrow. Unsure if she was killed because she was pointing in the right direction or because mafia wants us to think that she was actually doing so though.
Yeah i can agree there. Let's catch us some scum then! .\ , /.
I think the exodus vs malus stuff is certainly interesting especially as finding out more about exodus can also help my theory on Z-Beat, since Z-Beat isn't helping me much there. (Seriously dude all i'm asking is for your opinion on other players, it doesn't have to be a massive reads list, just give me your gut opinion on the other players).
I like Reki's plan and I can't wait to see what the results are.
As for a currents reads list... I'm sorry but i just worked an 11 hour shift ^^; so I'll just give you a quick opinions on all the players, and actually do some more in def reading tomorrow when i'm able too.
It's a lie detector though, not a fact check. I hope I got that right.
I'm going through the power list and something stood out to me. Reki, you said you got notified when you received your lie detector right?
Exo said he only got notified about the lightning rod, too. That means you get notified for all the items Neeks give you.
But Exo was protected and he didn't get notification about the vest? Does that mean it's another power?
Exo said he only got notified about the lightning rod, too. That means you get notified for all the items Neeks give you.
But Exo was protected and he didn't get notification about the vest? Does that mean it's another power?
I know this could get us more information. But I'm unsure if it goes against the spirit of the item. And even less certain that it would be a good idea to try the limits.
There's probably a protective role that exodus attracted with the lightning rod.
Considering I only got one item from Sawneeks that night I feel like I got the vest and just wasn't notified. She could hand out two items that night and I would have gotten both.
That would still leave us with one unaccounted item N1 and another on N3, if she gave two per night.
Yeah and that's fine. We don't need to know what's handed out yet.
I read this:
1 Lie detector (the player may ask the gamerunner to verify the veracity of one statement)
As:
Showrunner can verify that the person means what they say.
We need verification.
If Reki is right, then we gotta make sure Reki's safe tonight.
That's how I saw it initially.
Way less certain now considering the wikis.
We should keep the powers secret so scums waste their kill.
Seeing WSD was very easily influenced to vote, and he didn't post much.
I wish I could trust this statement.
Let's see...
Lean Town
-Chuggs: I've been town-reading him mostly, and still am. I could be always be wrong though.
-Ketkat: She has been helping with questions and scum-hunting for the most part. I'd like to hear her opinion on the other players though.
-Reki: Has been pretty helpful most of the game asking questions. Really now this lie detector thing turns out will really decide things.
-Queen Kong: Seems like a new townie to me, but could be playing all of us really good. Her correctly guessing nin's flavor was weird.
-Neon: I've mainly been town reading him and he has been helpful. Definitely showing his experience in playing mafia elsewhere though.
-Stan: He did help in catching Zeke in the end, and I'm feeling good about him for the most part though we'll see.
Null reading
-Exodus: has mostly come off as a weird townie but this whole exodus debate thing is interesting. I also think that either he and Z-Beat is scum.
Lean Scum
-B-Dubs: I'm still suspicious of him because of his interactions with Z-Beat.
-malus: I was suspicious of WSD, so now it's on malus to prove his innocence. This whole debate between him and exo might help with that.
- oreo: I'm still suspicious of him and wonder if he really is scum and just looked out not getting voted out day 2. Either way he was saved in a way by a townie (nin) so that's interesting.
-Z-Beat: I think he's scum yo, though I'm willing to hear him and others out.
Lean Town
-Chuggs: I've been town-reading him mostly, and still am. I could be always be wrong though.
-Ketkat: She has been helping with questions and scum-hunting for the most part. I'd like to hear her opinion on the other players though.
-Reki: Has been pretty helpful most of the game asking questions. Really now this lie detector thing turns out will really decide things.
-Queen Kong: Seems like a new townie to me, but could be playing all of us really good. Her correctly guessing nin's flavor was weird.
-Neon: I've mainly been town reading him and he has been helpful. Definitely showing his experience in playing mafia elsewhere though.
-Stan: He did help in catching Zeke in the end, and I'm feeling good about him for the most part though we'll see.
Null reading
-Exodus: has mostly come off as a weird townie but this whole exodus debate thing is interesting. I also think that either he and Z-Beat is scum.
Lean Scum
-B-Dubs: I'm still suspicious of him because of his interactions with Z-Beat.
-malus: I was suspicious of WSD, so now it's on malus to prove his innocence. This whole debate between him and exo might help with that.
- oreo: I'm still suspicious of him and wonder if he really is scum and just looked out not getting voted out day 2. Either way he was saved in a way by a townie (nin) so that's interesting.
-Z-Beat: I think he's scum yo, though I'm willing to hear him and others out.
You're right.
But being completely honest, I believe we're reaching the point at which a mass claim could help a lot to get a better understanding of the game state.
I don't want to push it because we haven't seen a cop/doctor flip yet, two of the roles that would be more likely at risk after that.
But I'm starting to believe there's no doctor this game.
What would be your reason for thinking so or are you not wanting to say?
As for a mass claim, I would like to here what everyone else's opinion is first on the matter. You are right it might be dangerous to reveal the cop/doctor if there is one, but if everyone agrees then I'm willing to do it.