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Steve from Gamers Nexus: PS5 vs. Xbox Series X Airflow Testing: Cooling Design Efficiency & Flow Paths
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People take it personally when you talk about their favorite consoles.
that one video was probably the first time many of the people on here had seen any content from GN and then decided to label the channel as misinformation and nothing but "pcmr". Fucking hilarious, but definitely expected. He showed off his fancy thermal cameras a while back and I've been looking forward to the content associated with it. I want to see stuff like how radiator/fan placement effects cooling in new cases/gpus/cpu coolers.
This thread is dictionary definition of thread derailment.
Good video, although overly long to be honest for the content. I really like both airflow designs from a technical point, but I have to give it to Microsoft, they designed something brilliantly simple.
Good video, although overly long to be honest for the content. I really like both airflow designs from a technical point, but I have to give it to Microsoft, they designed something brilliantly simple.
None whatsoever. People drew their own conclusions from the data presented.
LOL, people really getting butt hurt about a console vs pc comparison.
That said Gamers Nexus is pretty legit with all their technical analysis, and their airflow & thermal tests for pc cases is so legit.
That said Gamers Nexus is pretty legit with all their technical analysis, and their airflow & thermal tests for pc cases is so legit.
I agree, and I will add one more video to that list, which I initially enjoyed, which was the one where he was criticizing people for complaining about GPU shortages, I think it was back in October.
I mean people were going over the top with their frustrations, but it's a bit disingenuous coming from a channel that goes for the hyper enthusiast clicks by using extreme solutions like liquid nitrogen for cooling for the laughs.
Like, of course your viewership is gonna be upset about near zero availability of cards YOU showcase, breakdown, and then mad scientist experiment with.
Otherwise 99.9% of their vids are on point.
Yeah, this would have been interesting, especially with the Nidec fan.
Gamers nexus' bread and butter is what is the most extensively data-oriented analysis of mostly PC hardware performance on youtube, heavily slanted towards thermals and noise. Though there's always room to argue that no single test can ever encompass performance of a product at market scale, every subject they do discuss is always extensively tested to a T, and they cover a wide field of subjects. Their content is incredibly useful when you're trying to suss out what the relative performance of a particular class of parts with lots of competitors on the market like cases, mobos, water coolers, etc.
I would guess that the people here crying like small children in public about a video game console probably just need healthier hobbies.
Same here, GN have always been well informed and well researched, and it's the absolute best channel for this sort of stuff. The ones where I have a problem with some of his methodology and his conclusions are the ones that are about consoles, and/or the ones where authoritative sources (JEDEC documentation, engineers interviews) contradict his claims and conclusions. But that's a tiny tiny fraction of his videos. Like 2 of them.
Mistakes happen so I don't really care much either way but this mindset also isn't correct. Global warming deniers and lots of people with an agenda in general constantly present flawed data and tell people to "draw your own conclusions."
Data can absolutely be wrong, biased, or not showing the full picture. It can be presented in ways that aren't right. Presenting data as always neutral and unbiased is just not right.
Everything presented was clarified and the reasoning and justification was provided too. I don't think most of the people who had issues with it saw the whole 34mins of it.
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Both exhaust a ton of air from their main vents, but it seems that PS5 blows less than the Xbox. Interestingly, if you have the Series X laying horizontal in an entertainment center, it's best to have the top vent facing the room, rather than having the console facing the wall of that space. Of course, it also depends on how much space there is for the air to travel.
That little exhaust hole on the side of the Xbox is interesting. Could be both to prevent people from completely blocking it, and to affect the accoustics.
It depends what type of other equipment there are in your rack/cabinet/shelf.
Someone with a lot of home theater equipment (and also many consoles that include ps3/ps4/ps5) will have a lot of traditional front-to-back airflow, which means it's better to have everything oriented the same way. Otherwise you end up with multiple devices blowing their hot wattage into another device, and that's kind of rude.
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Linus beat up the Xbox with a 1070. Don't see much upset there.
yea that video wasn't well handled either, though Steve does seem to have changed his stance a little since then, but all the major tech youtubers really seem like they dont understand the frustrations of end users on availability. I think a lot of it comes with them being so consumed by tech that they no longer utilize it like end users. Like if you dont play games anymore its kind of hard to care as much as someone that does about the leap that is the 30 series.
Ill caveat this with yes I understand and acknowledge people take it way too far, but things like implementing anti-scalping into market places is rightfully criticized when its not done.
This video though is awesome. Like the only lessons are the incredibly obvious ones, dont block the ventilation.intake on the consoles, but its still really cool to see.
The 3080 FE mapping was at least a little more useful data since you could plan a case out based on learning how it spreads out air instead of just sending it up in a cone
I think his main point was that the shortages were not coming from a "paper launch" (aka, there not really being production of cards or it being announced that way on purpose) but rather that the demand really was outstripping production and made it seem that way. Like yeah, the viewers can be angry but it is not a paper launch when they made the same (or more) cards than in their previous launch.
He was talking more on the production side on that (with his contacts from fsctories telling him they were producing similar levels than the 20x0 gen).
Most of this went over my head, I'll admit.
... but I think I gleaned just enough to even more deeply appreciate the design of the Series X, lol.
I like the PS5 too, but I'm really fond of the Series X from a design standpoint, both in aesthetics and function.
... but I think I gleaned just enough to even more deeply appreciate the design of the Series X, lol.
I like the PS5 too, but I'm really fond of the Series X from a design standpoint, both in aesthetics and function.
Jesus Christ dude.
Why are these pointless personal attacks on people behind their backs allowed on Era? The hell?
Wow strong overreaction to his comparison video. Steve and gamers nexus are awesome. If you don't like that one video, that's fine lol. But he and GN does great work.
Y'all don't talk shit 'bout my playstation. Don't you know that it was forged by Cerny in his golden tub and blessed by da gawd Druckman?
I wish petty personal attacks like this warranted a ban. It's sad.
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True. Mostly rushed and yet it should have been a lot more indepth considering he says that Ps5 has a particular flow system compared to the standard ITX-like design of the XSX.
The problem with trying to talk about the PS5 airflow is that the dynamics are quite obscure and almost impossible to test in details. You can only test the end result of the amount of air required to cool a certain wattage, and some temperature readings. The rest is just theories of how it works. GN are die hard empiricists so in general I noticed that if it's not testable they don't talk about it.
The interesting part to discuss is the 3 part split heatsink, but that would require some fluid dynamics explanations, and very precise pressure sensors all over the airflow path. The weirdest is the two heatsink parts that are seemingly in line with each other in the airflow, with a split in the middle that allows a second path and mixing, there's an interview in japanese where the engineer explains why it's made that way.
I mean, it absolutely does make some noise, you can definitely hear it if you are next to it. But not a lot, it's fantastic engineering.
Saw this earlier. Fascinating stuff. Tech Jesus stays being the best.
How is this just a "drive-by" warn? It's a straight up personal attack because Steve said mean things about this user's favorite plastic box. Come on.