Stephen King, Margaret Atwood and Roxane Gay champion trans rights in open letter
With more than 1,200 signatories the US and Canada including Neil Gaiman and NK Jemisin, message follows row over comments by JK Rowling
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Stephen King, Margaret Atwood and Roxane Gay champion trans rights in open letter
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Fuck yes. Great counter to the mealy-mouthed "decorum"-first sect of celebrities who've been enabling TERFs like Rowling.
I was worried about Stephen King for a while there considering a tweet of his where he praised the TERF-in-Chief's CT book, but this quells my fear about him.
Nice to see Atwood sign onto a good open letter for a change.
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He never praised her personally, or her views - as far as I know. And I'd say this letter is a condemnation of her and what she stands for.
not true, the Rowling letter was consigned by a load of transphobic twats.
including, Alexander Armstrong and Ben Miller .
This is true, but given that her most recent book was itself so transphobic and once again written with her pseudonym that copies the name of someone famous for their gay conversion therapy through electroshock, seeing him praise the book is still kind of gross.
Ok, yeah, wasn't aware of that, sorry. Still, I think it's clear what King stands for after this, and I'm glad.
I don't think I've ever particularly enjoyed King's work (didn't hate it either, for what it's worth), but he's always seemed like a stand-up dude. Glad to see he's not a piece of shit like JKR.
I really hate that the discourse has shifted to "plz don't me mean to the billionaire who is using her fame wealth and influence to harm trans folks, it's just a difference of opinion :( "
There's absolutely no ambiguity when it comes to this sort of stuff. Fuck terfs. Terf is not a slur.
There's absolutely no ambiguity when it comes to this sort of stuff. Fuck terfs. Terf is not a slur.
No, he did praise her for sure in the recent tweet on her transphobic book (I'll hyperlink instead of embed here). He just doesn't confront her on her views.
"J. K. Rowling is a wonderful storyteller and a gifted stylist" is definitely personal praise. Honestly for me I'm still not completely comfy with King, he makes the right broad statement about trans rights but doesn't actually call out the problematic authors like JKR, but in fact keeps praising them as if there's nothing wrong. Like I don't hate him or anything, he's nothing at all on the level of actual TERFs, but it rubs me the wrong way to praise him too hard as an ally for doing the bare minimum of affirming trans identities which should be expected of everyone.
Frustratingly I feel the need to emphasize here that I'm not hating on Stephen King since so often with these conversations, critiques are misconstrued to their extremes (particularly when it comes to celebrity idols).
Ok, I stand corrected - he really could've avoided saying that.
I think King can praise her as a writer (dude evidently reads a heck of a lot) without endorsing her views - even if they do seem to increasingly come through into her writing
Really good to see anyway
Really good to see anyway
Yay! Thanks good writers, for coming out in opposition to the shittier opinions of lessers artists. It's nice to see.
Nah lots of British celebrities have been agreeing with her and supporting her
Atwood has been talking about trans rights and trans issues publicly for a while now too, so this isn't new for her
I wasn't even aware. I kind of just kept seeing headlines about her and tuned it out because everything new involving her was going to be something else transphobic
Anyone have a link to the actual letter? I couldn't find anything in the article and I'd like to see who signed.
Yep and totally unsurprising really. The majority of our media class are all cut from the same cloth. Privately educated, Oxbridge, right wing and they all go to the same parties. Usually responsible for 90s/00s comedies that happen to contain transphobic content.
Yeah I had seen that recently, great to see
Understandable
Yup, British media is pretty conservative in general and has huge problems
Odd they didn't have a link to the letter they mentioned in this article, but happen to have a link to the JK supporting one. Either way it genuinely made my day to see this, I feel we don't get as much positive trans news as we should these days.
Just another day on this corrupt as fuck little toilet island
The Guardian are known for giving a platform to TERFs to spout their rubbish, so it's not surprising.
I got the link posted above from Pink News.
Stephen King, Margaret Atwood and more than 1,000 literary heroes 'put their names on the line' for trans people
Stephen King, Margaret Atwood and Neil Gaiman signed a letter declaring that trans rights are human rights.
www.pinknews.co.uk
Thanks. Good to see some familiar names there.
King is (was??) actually friends with Rowling (at least in the past) though who knows how close they are nowadays. He certainly hasn't been liking any of her recent tweets recently.
Unfortunately, I think Robbie Coltrane came out in support of her.
Were they? I thought they were just twitter friends. I couldn't find anything to confirm they were buddies or close friends outside that.