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Black Desert you still have to make an external account? I really want to play it, but that's not gonna happen...
Just use my Steam ID, what's the problem?



PS: also I play all games I buy, so no backlog...
 

Sailent

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That...that isn't a monopoly. That's a form of distribution that is akin to PC gaming for some time now. Just like Epic with Metro...

Yo, I've been alive many years and I know what a monopoly is. No need to be condescending.


I'm not saying that Steam is a literal monopoly, I'm just saying there are a lot of people that "If it's not in steam, I won't buy it". Also, physical copies having codes for Steam.

It... really doesn't.

Read.
 

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Yo, I've been alive many years and I know what a monopoly is. No need to be condescending.


I'm not saying that Steam is a literal monopoly, I'm just saying there are a lot of people that "If it's not in steam, I won't buy it". Also, physical copies having codes for Steam.
I'm not being condescending, just correcting your proposition that a monopoly with regards to Steam is because physical copies of PC games have a Steam code. That is not a monopoly, at all, because PC games have been basically disc-less for a good few years and that it isn't just Steam but everybody else who has ever released a physical game from their storefront. Such assertion is wrong and I am correcting you on it.

Steam is not a literal monopoly, so then why say it is a monopoly but not literally? You can't figuratively state something while intending it to be literal. Developers have chosen in the past to put their games on Steam regularly due to the larger market, but it isn't stopping them going elsewhere and in fact that is shown as the case with other storefronts. A monopoly in typical business terms is a company who owns all avenues and has no competition, where that is not true because anyone can go against them. As has been discussed so much with the rise of Epic but it necessitates continual discussion over and over.

Also a person's opinion of buying on one platform over another doesn't constitute a monopoly. That is just a person's buying choice as their right to do so gives them. It is in the same vein as me not buying anything on Epic Store because I dislike their capitalistic practices and their literal monopoly tactics despite claiming to be anti-Steam "monopoly" over and over.
 

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Yo, I've been alive many years and I know what a monopoly is. No need to be condescending.


I'm not saying that Steam is a literal monopoly, I'm just saying there are a lot of people that "If it's not in steam, I won't buy it". Also, physical copies having codes for Steam.



Read.

That's not a monopoly. It just means Steam is the best place to play PC games for many.
 

Sailent

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I'm not being condescending, just correcting your proposition that a monopoly with regards to Steam is because physical copies of PC games have a Steam code. That is not a monopoly, at all, because PC games have been basically disc-less for a good few years and that it isn't just Steam but everybody else who has ever released a physical game from their storefront. Such assertion is wrong and I am correcting you on it.

Steam is not a literal monopoly, so then why say it is a monopoly but not literally? You can't figuratively state something while intending it to be literal. Developers have chosen in the past to put their games on Steam regularly due to the larger market, but it isn't stopping them going elsewhere and in fact that is shown as the case with other storefronts. A monopoly in typical business terms is a company who owns all avenues and has no competition, where that is not true because anyone can go against them. As has been discussed so much with the rise of Epic but it necessitates continual discussion over and over.

Also a person's opinion of buying on one platform over another doesn't constitute a monopoly. That is just a person's buying choice as their right to do so gives them. It is in the same vein as me not buying anything on Epic Store because I dislike their capitalistic practices and their literal monopoly tactics despite claiming to be anti-Steam "monopoly" over and over.

All I'm saying is, why are physical releases directing me to a digital service? What happened with the "Hey I have a disc, I can play when I want"? It just bothers me.

What do you dislike about these "capitalistic practices"? The exclusivity?
 

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I'm not being condescending, just correcting your proposition that a monopoly with regards to Steam is because physical copies of PC games have a Steam code. That is not a monopoly, at all, because PC games have been basically disc-less for a good few years and that it isn't just Steam but everybody else who has ever released a physical game from their storefront. Such assertion is wrong and I am correcting you on it.

Steam is not a literal monopoly, so then why say it is a monopoly but not literally? You can't figuratively state something while intending it to be literal. Developers have chosen in the past to put their games on Steam regularly due to the larger market, but it isn't stopping them going elsewhere and in fact that is shown as the case with other storefronts. A monopoly in typical business terms is a company who owns all avenues and has no competition, where that is not true because anyone can go against them. As has been discussed so much with the rise of Epic but it necessitates continual discussion over and over.

Also a person's opinion of buying on one platform over another doesn't constitute a monopoly. That is just a person's buying choice as their right to do so gives them. It is in the same vein as me not buying anything on Epic Store because I dislike their capitalistic practices and their literal monopoly tactics despite claiming to be anti-Steam "monopoly" over and over.
I've been thinking about that... It's true that Steam doesn't have a monopoly in the conventional sense, you can buy "Steam games" wherever and Steam doesn't see a cent (not 100% sure) but... Steam does have a DRM monopoly, you can only play many of the popular games using Steam as a platform, there is no choice at all.If you don't download their client, and make a "Steam account" you're screwed. Kinda like Sony has a "monopoly" on Sony games and likewise Microsoft with "Xbox" games.
Also it's different with consoles, you buy a *Sony* console and expect it only playing *Sony* games (which is true, they all say Sony regardless of dev or publisher)
You don't buy a"Steam PC", you just buy a PC (which does come with some limited choices admittedly )
So while that's debatable these are really monopolies, I think that's what people mean when they say monopoly, you *have* to be in their ecco system.

And I also think that's why people like to shill for the Epic store, it's "competition" the worst possible competition imaginable, but still competition - with the same policies and goals as Steam ironically.
 

Alexandros

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Yo, I've been alive many years and I know what a monopoly is. No need to be condescending.


I'm not saying that Steam is a literal monopoly, I'm just saying there are a lot of people that "If it's not in steam, I won't buy it". Also, physical copies having codes for Steam.



Read.

Nah, this is completely off topic. Make a new thread and I will gladly and happily answer you there.
 

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All I'm saying is, why are physical releases directing me to a digital service? What happened with the "Hey I have a disc, I can play when I want"? It just bothers me.

What do you dislike about these "capitalistic practices"? The exclusivity?
Just a change of a digital future that PC gaming took. Many builds don't even factor in DVD players anymore and I stopped considering it when making one around 2008. Like with this sale, digital just provides an ease of access unlike physical but that isn't against physical as I buy such for my Switch because prices are cheaper. That is why you have things like this Steam Spring Cleaning, advocating to play your old games at the touch of a button due to digital nature.

With regards to your other question, I've mentioned it a lot before but quick summary is yes the exclusivity is something I disagree heavily with unless fully funded by the storefront or their own first party game. I do believe in their revenue split, and I want all storefronts to adopt that where possible as devs should be paid for their hard work. However, I believe that games should be available everywhere and that drives a pro-consumer mentality with competition from pricing or accessibility features.

So hugely gone off topic, sorry to others wanting to discuss the intended topic.
 

Crayon

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I've been thinking about that... It's true that Steam doesn't have a monopoly in the conventional sense, you can buy "Steam games" wherever and Steam doesn't see a cent (not 100% sure) but... Steam does have a DRM monopoly, you can only play many of the popular games using Steam as a platform, there is no choice at all.If you don't download their client, and make a "Steam account" you're screwed. Kinda like Sony has a "monopoly" on Sony games and likewise Microsoft with "Xbox" games.
Also it's different with consoles, you buy a *Sony* console and expect it only playing *Sony* games (which is true, they all say Sony regardless of dev or publisher)
You don't buy a"Steam PC", you just buy a PC (which does come with some limited choices admittedly )
So while that's debatable these are really monopolies, I think that's what people mean when they say monopoly, you *have* to be in their ecco system.

And I also think that's why people like to shill for the Epic store, it's "competition" the worst possible competition imaginable, but still competition - with the same policies and goals as Steam ironically.

No, no. Dude up there is shuffling back and forth over what monopoly means because he doesn't care what it means. "Steam is a monopoly, thus X should happen." "Oh I didn't mean literal monopoly. I meant when steam codes are in boxes that you bought for the steam code inside when I said X should happen." It's nonsense.

You can actually do quite a lot of gaming on a pc without steam. Yes you would find yourself cut off from some games, but you would find the same if you limited yourself to just steam. It's not even close to a monopoly. As far as why publishers choose to only release on steam, you would have to ask them.
 
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Ted

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I think I must have missed this last year but have quite enjoyed seeing what it recommended me. I played some great games, old and new, that I hadn't intended to play yesterday as a result.

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I laughed. Mine was a bundle from before I moved to PC gaming so only had an integrated graphics laptop.

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Luckily a tiny download!

Please, please keep the spring cleaning game selector tool thing year round. It's so great for when you just dont know what to play! I have no idea why it was removed after last years spring cleaning was over.

Yes please. The only addition I'd like is to be able to ask it to look at my full library or just installed games.

I played a few of my selections for yesterday.

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Canabalt is still my favourite one button runner of all time, Cat Goes Fishing is still charming and Cook Serve Delicious is still the Dark Souls of Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing games.
 

oracledragon

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Please, please keep the spring cleaning game selector tool thing year round. It's so great for when you just dont know what to play! I have no idea why it was removed after last years spring cleaning
It's been a part of Big Picture Mode for years.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar for the redesigned client.

Really? I never use Big Picture mode, that would sure be a great reason to do that! I tried googling quick but didn't see anything about a random game selector, do you know how to access it in Big Picture mode? I can filter games by "unplayed" (which has it's uses) but I was really looking for a feature just like "Spin Cycle". I used to use Backloggery fortune cookie to do something similar, but it was just too much busy work (for me) to keep my game library up to date by hand in that site.
 

ShinUltramanJ

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I'm not saying that Steam is a literal monopoly, I'm just saying there are a lot of people that "If it's not in steam, I won't buy it".

That's called the market deciding. Steam offers it's users so much that they refuse to accept something inferior. It's their choice to make, and it's no different than a console user choosing Xbox over PlayStation because they prefer it's features.
 

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I wish this event lasted longer, I an ungodly busy and probably won't be able to touch this event much
 

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100% agree on keeping the selector around. I desperately need a direction on what to play otherwise I end up in a situation of buying Skyrim on Switch despite owning it on PC. I haven't even finished Skyrim...
 

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Really? I never use Big Picture mode, that would sure be a great reason to do that! I tried googling quick but didn't see anything about a random game selector, do you know how to access it in Big Picture mode? I can filter games by "unplayed" (which has it's uses) but I was really looking for a feature just like "Spin Cycle". I used to use Backloggery fortune cookie to do something similar, but it was just too much busy work (for me) to keep my game library up to date by hand in that site.
It's not 'press a button and play a random game' but there's a big list of categories, which list four games each, that are randomized when you open up the library view in BPM.
There's more categories than these, but this time I got:
  • Continue Playing
  • Just Updated
  • Popular Broadcasts
  • Popular among friends
  • Start something new
  • You haven't played these in a while
  • Achievement completionist
  • Get Some Cards
  • Cyberpunk games
  • Difficult games
  • Singleplayer games
  • Great Soundtrack games
  • Action games
  • Indie games
  • FPS games
  • Pixel Graphics games
  • Multiplayer games
  • Racing games
  • Platformer games
  • Shooter games
  • Adventure games
  • Sci-fi games
  • First-Person games
  • Time Manipulation games
  • Open World games
  • Simulation games
  • Survival games
 

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Tip, if you can't download all games in time, because, like me, you have a low speed internet :

Download the famous Steam Achievement Manager, and launch games through that. You don't need to download games, SAM will launch them for you. You don't have to check achievements, it won't be messed by that. You can just double click on games Steam asks you to launch, see yourself instantly in game (while you're not really) and close. That way, in 2mins you're done.
 

CommodoreKong

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I wish this event lasted longer, I an ungodly busy and probably won't be able to touch this event much

Just use Steam Achievement Manager, you don't even have to download the games. You don't even need to fake unlock any achievements with the program, when you open up a game in SAM Steam thinks the game is running.
 

Shang

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Tip, if you can't download all games in time, because, like me, you have a low speed internet :

Download the famous Steam Achievement Manager, and launch games through that. You don't need to download games, SAM will launch them for you. You don't have to check achievements, it won't be messed by that. You can just double click on games Steam asks you to launch, see yourself instantly in game (while you're not really) and close. That way, in 2mins you're done.
Wish I had seen this post before I downloaded 20 GB, lol. Still, thanks very much for this tip, it'll help out for the remaining daily tasks.
 

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Lol "Clear the backlog" is only games I already played... Thankfully it still worked.

"Speed clean" was Don't starve together, since it's only 750MB, downloaded, started it up, deleted. Great game! Lol


"Can't wait" was Resident Evil 2 - which I didn't even start! Hah...


I'm really enjoying these events, the bugs make them even more fun imo! 2
 

MrHealthy

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I forgot to do the tasks on day 2 and am now locked out of getting the gold badge. What dumb shit. This will forever bug me now.
 

B4mv

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I wish I didn't miss the day 1 events. Really bothers me, I didn't know this was a thing until day 2.

Also wondering what time the Day 4 tasks will start to pop. 3pm est?
 

ZugZug123

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Done :) It kept telling me to replay Peggle, which I did not mind at all. I miss old Pop Cap :(