Same, I know a game called "deadhold" was in the works and was pretty much Norse Myth. Dont know what became of it.
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State of RTS in 2019?
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Same, I know a game called "deadhold" was in the works and was pretty much Norse Myth. Dont know what became of it.
Got canned sucks because it was really good. They only had 1 single player mission done, but the multiplayer was up and had a few of us playing it.
Damn, yeah I was just browsing their discord and found out. I really want another myth like game. It had so many multiplayer types. I loved hunting and body count.
The gameplay we've seen from WC3R was far from finished. And yes, I'm also disappointed WC3R is less cartoony than the original. But it can still look good in the end.
Halo Wars shows it works. But I think the problem is that hardcore PC players refused to accept any less control and novice players still felt overwhelmed.
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halo wars shows the exact opposite. It shows how neutered and boring and simplistic a game has to be in order to have some semblance of playability on such an ill suited tool like a pad.
My biggest fear for Age of Empires 4 is getting announced as multiplatform
I feel like the critical and commercial response shows that your sentiment is not the common one (and in any case it basically proves my point.)
From Adam Isgreen, the creative director on AoE4:
Pretty sure it won't but we will see when it releases.
When all the rumors about a Warcraft HD surfaced years ago I was hoping for a total remake of 1-3 in the Engine of Starcraft 2. That would have been so epic. But yeah ... that would have actually taken some effort I guess and RTS aren't the big shit anymore like 15 years ago.
Warcraft 3 in the SCII engine.. please no. You can't remaster a RTS game in a different engine and not change the play style. Warcraft III has a unique style to it. If you want to do something new, actually do something new. I'm also really happy that you don't need Reforged to play with people who own Reforged. That why my friends can still play with me.
The clan that I'm in is still torn on Reforged. I think 50% of the people is going to buy it.
It's also worthwhile to return to older games like AoE2 because of its HD rerelease and the addons they've since released for it. The new campaigns are really well made from what I've already played. Leagues above whatever Ensemble put out back then, albeit without the fancy videos and VA.
Good RTS games offer lots of playtime across their campaigns, especially on higher difficulties, so you don't really need tons of new high-profile RTS games imo, you can just play them again and be busy for weeks XD
Good RTS games offer lots of playtime across their campaigns, especially on higher difficulties, so you don't really need tons of new high-profile RTS games imo, you can just play them again and be busy for weeks XD
I just want to see what a new big budget rts game would look like. The CGI cutscenes in Halo Wars 2 are glorious. But it was just not deep enough for a proper rts game in my eyes. Last 'AAA' rts game before that was... SC2?
It annoys me that some decent maps are out of 3vs3 ranked rotation because you end up with the same 4 maps all the time which is boring but yeh, HW2 is decent enough. I still play it most days
I mean if you want the original, just play the original? I don't get that demand for remasters. Give me something new or at least fundamentally enhanced like Resi 2 or don't waste your resources as a developer. The original isn't gone, it's perfectly playable in 2019.
The HD version gave Age of Empires 2 a completely new life. I hope the remaster of Warcraft 3 does the same. The game is still very active online, but it could really be much better. A remaster like reforged can really give the playerbase a new boost.
I like the original game, that's why I want it to thrive. I'm also interested to see how new top tier rts games would be, but that wouldn't be a remaster.
The millions of custom games in Warcraft 3, the current playerbase and community for games like Age of Empires 2 and Warcraft 3. Those things are important. Throwing it all away would be idiotic.
Which is a good thing. The game would be DOA if they didn't.
Now, every patch they've introduced in the last two years has introduced more bugs than fixes. So I'm still not sure if this will become a half decent game or not. But I still got hope. The team working on it really has passion for it.
How's Sudden Strike 4 on PS4? I've been wanting to check it out but it hasn't reviewed too well.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I thought it was okay. Seemed a little boring to me. I just did the training missions and some of the controls are really clunky with weird pauses between certain movements. For me it's a pass, but maybe it gets better as you go on.
To me, a great RTS needs base building and you need to be able to build anywhere. I liked Halo Wars but the building aspect was too simplified. I'm extremely excited for the Command and Conquer remake and I hope that it launches us into a new era where RTS is king and a new big budget C&C is made by Petroglyph.
I want the FPS, MOBA and battle royale genre's to disintegrate over time so that only the true king (rts) is left standing. Imagine a world where multiple big budget RTS games are released per year. What a wonderful world that would be.
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Company of Heroes 2 still has a very active community, especially after they had a free weekend recently.
And let's be honest, it's miles better than the archaic gameplay of Starcraft 2, even with it's flaws.
And let's be honest, it's miles better than the archaic gameplay of Starcraft 2, even with it's flaws.
Let's agree to disagree here. StarCraft 2 has a certain type of gameplay, but it is really well thought out.
There was such a world once. Just thinking back to 2007, Supreme Commander, Forged Alliance, World in Conflict, Company of Heroes Opposing Fronts, Tiberium Wars, Universe at War, Age of Empires Asian Dynasties.
I've seen people saying the RTS genre was never an AAA one. Its false, of course. Empire Earth 3 for example, in 2007, cost 10 million to develop. For comparisson, Gears of War 1 cost about the same. Bioshock costed 15 million. Anno 1701 in 2006 cost was also around 10 to 11 million dollars, it was one of the most expensive games made in europe. And this was a slow city building management game.
Are there any decent mobile RTS games? Ones that play well, have traditional base building/unit management and aren't just trying to squeeze every dollar through microtransactions?
I tried to play Halo Wars. The controller makes things that should be quick and simple overly complicated. Its awful.
If Age comes to Xbox, it will be M/K only. You shouldn't worry.
Unfortunately I can't think of any 1:1 PC-to-mobile RTS games off the top of my head at the moment outside of like Warfare Incorporated. For what it's worth I've enjoyed Age of Empires, Starfront, Call of Duty Heroes (shut down), Titanfall Assault (shut down), Mushroom Wars 2, War Commander and Total War if it counts.
I can't imagine getting the same thrill from a mobile game as I get from the high skill ceiling RTS genres on PC. 100+ apm madness is what I enjoy.
Competitive SC2 is arguably at the best its ever been right now.
With the rise of new legends Serral and Maru. Its been such a joy to watch.
With the rise of new legends Serral and Maru. Its been such a joy to watch.
There are some but not all are going to have the same complexity as the PC strategy games. And that is too be expected honestly.
In the vein of Civ:
-The Battle for Polytopia
-Hexonia
Grand Strategy-lite:
-Realpolitiks Mobile
-ROME: Total War
-European War 4: Napoleon
It's absolutely fantastic on PC (feels exactly like old school Sudden Strike and Blitzkrieg 1 with modernish graphics) and the requirements are pretty low too, most systems should run it without issues.
Not sure about the console versions, non-PC RTS usually struggle hard with the controls.
Beaten everything in the base game except the US campaign, really enjoyed myself. You can even capture farming tractors and use them to tow AT guns and light arty, what's not to like about that.
Frostpunk was also great. Really enjoyed the campaign. I don´t think RTS is dead just yet. But there aren´t many jewels aroud :(
You know what would be cool? Another Sacrifice game from good old Shiny Ent(rip) or Myth.
Alternatively AoE2HD is still going balls to the wall strong.
Alternatively AoE2HD is still going balls to the wall strong.
Just being able to win by being faster than my opponent is exactly what an RTS shouldn't be about in my opinion.
Wow this looks amazing. Felt straight out of AoM, the walls, the houses.
Conan Unconquered releases Q2 this year. Made by Petroglyph which is a bunch of Westwood veterans. More interestingly their publisher Funcom just recently acquired the rights for developing games set in the DUNE universe. Maybe we will see a Dune 3 RTS...
There is no gameplay footage out yet ?
No, it's tactics first. Knowing the units and the counters to these units, knowing the maps, knowing the exact timing for building, etc. But as you get better, your apm will increase. Having those high skilled games where players are doing so many things at once is amazing to see. Yesterday I watched StarCraft II on Twitch again. It's mindblowing.
Simply being fast without in depth strategy and tactical prowess stops working past a certain level.
This sentiment is why I hate starcraft being forever associated with APM. Having high APM only gets you so far, tactics and strategy will always reign supreme
Not that I could find. There are a couple more screenshots though.
But most of the tasks in a classic RTS boil down to tedious busywork that detract from the actual battle, like why would I need to manage every single worker extracting resources. Having a high APM and adhering to a strict build order to a split second becomes a requirement to even get inot the actual game of tactics and mind games.
That's why I like Company of Heroes so much. It's concentrating on fighting from the get go and the menus are designed in such a way that you can do base management and production on the fly while still focusing on the battle.
I disagree. When playing on a decent level it's not tedious. Your macro skill becomes just as important as your micro.
This is mostly the case in fast paced rts games with in depth base management. Starcry, AoE, C&C games, WarCraft, etc.
I've been hoping for that for 20 years. At this point I don't think they even know about Myth let alone have plans for doing anything with it sadly.
It's so infuriating too because Myth I and II were AMAZING games and both sold well and had extremely active communities. I mean Myth 2 was literally like the "half life" of RTS games back then, you'd go on the mill and find a ton of maps/conversions and things for the game and so many people to play with online.
Then bungie left the series, they moved a new developer in to make Myth 3 and basically IMMEDIATELY fired them once it was released so it got like no support really and the game basically died and that was all we got.
Though there's still a small die hard fanbase that has kept Myth going online and fan patches that have kept it updated and working on modern systems and things.
I'd just love a new Myth game that plays like Myth II and I think that there IS a market for it, because to this day there really isn't anything that plays like it. The closest thing is the Company of Hero games but even then it's not really the same because you can make new units, etc which in Myth was one of the biggest changes that you only got the units you start with (in multiplayer) and that is that so you had to use them wisely.
I wish someone like Nightdive studios would buy the rights from take 2 in order to make a new game or remaster Myth I and II.
Not for me, Northgard is on my to-buy list. Also Age of Mythology is my favourite PC game ever. I put countless hours into it back in the day. Now that I have a gaming PC again I wonder if it's worth checking the HD remaster...
In addition I finally got into the Total War series with Medieval 2 and it's absolutely great. Planning to check the most recent entries as well. But I don't consider that to be RTS, real-time battles take little of your time and can even be skipped.
In addition I finally got into the Total War series with Medieval 2 and it's absolutely great. Planning to check the most recent entries as well. But I don't consider that to be RTS, real-time battles take little of your time and can even be skipped.