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El_Chino

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Oct 25, 2017
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Didn't he state a couple of years ago that the game was already playable from start to finish?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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"If the game is not ready to show, there is not a whole lot we can do until it's ready. I don't know, what do you want from me? I can't make it up."

Don't talk about a game so early and even give it a name if you don't want people bugging you for literal years about when it's coming out.

Yeah, weirdly combative. It's their choice to announce the title of the game and then literally never say word one about it ever again.

I don't get why every tiny detail about video games needs to be a state secret. They're not ready to show footage, fine. How hard would out be to share a few words about what the game is like? Is it first or third person? Is it set in our galaxy in the future, or a totally fantastical setting? Like the most basic and general information possible. It's just kind of baffling to me that they want to sell us this game, but simultaneously they take people's basic curiosity and interest in it and turn it into this big adversarial thing.
 

Bunkles

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Oct 26, 2017
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Starfield and ES6 were undoubtedly announced early so the Fallout 76 + Elder Scrolls Blades announcements would be more digestible to Bethesda fans.

That and crazed fans had been begging them for anything on ES6 for years so it's a bone thrown.

Oh no doubt. If they hadn't announced ES6 with Blades it could have been another Diablo: Immortal fiasco. Short term it was a smart move, long term these crazed fans will be bugging them nonstop until we get info and release.
 

Glimpse_Dog

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Oct 29, 2017
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Bethesda can fuck off to be honest. Off the horrible F76 launch and pulling out of Elder Scrolls Legenda (where I spent over 1000EUR on cards), couple with their inability to release jankeless games, and I'm so over BGS.
 

4 Get!

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Apr 8, 2019
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Yeah, but this doesn't include the DLC or the countless ports of Skyrim they've done. Or Elder Scrolls online. The team has been very busy.

Elder Scrolls Online is a different team, Zenimax Online Studios. Whatever the main Skyrim team has been doing for the past 4 years, it's between Fallout 76 and Starfield.

Also I'm in support of them dropping the name Elder Scrolls 6 and just calling it Skyrim 2 for marketing and profit purposes. Casual buyers don't care about the name 'Elder Scrolls'.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I worry we're in for another Fallout 4, as in a game made in a vacuum while other games come out and surpass it.
 

Agamon

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Aug 1, 2019
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After once being one of my fav game companies, I currently have zero faith in Bethesda (or should I say ZeniMax), so if this ends up being anything I'm remotely interested in, that'll be amazing.
 

Potato Mage

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Apr 28, 2020
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Expecting more from CDPR and Obsidian when it comes to open world sandbox games next gen than Bethesda.

Going in to this gen Bethesda, BioWare and Blizzard were my favorite devs. And they all kinda face planted.
 

ToddBonzalez

The Pyramids? That's nothing compared to RDR2
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Oct 27, 2017
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I thought this would be a launch window game for next gen. Now, who knows? Late 2021? Later than that?
 

SharpX68K

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Nov 10, 2017
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My guess:

Starfield - 2022.

The Elder Scrolls VI - 2025-2026.

I.e.
Starfield will be out before Grand Theft Auto 6 but GTA6 will be out years before TES6.
 
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Carbon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I thought this would be a launch window game for next gen. Now, who knows? Late 2021? Later than that?
Hard to justify an exclusive next gen title on launch, especially with the budget and scale of a typical Bethesda RPG. Much easier to do it a year or two later, when the install base can justify leaving 10s of millions of potential old-gen customers behind.
At least that's if it is next-gen only. If it's not, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?
 

ToddBonzalez

The Pyramids? That's nothing compared to RDR2
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Oct 27, 2017
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Hard to justify an exclusive next gen title on launch, especially with the budget and scale of a typical Bethesda RPG. Much easier to do it a year or two later, when the install base can justify leaving 10s of millions of potential old-gen customers behind.
At least that's if it is next-gen only. If it's not, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?
Yeah, I guess there are 2 schools of thought on this. I think Oblivion probably benefited by coming out early in 360's lifespan. There weren't many other games to draw attention away from it. The 1st Bioshock is another example of this imo.
 

Carbon

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Yeah, I guess there are 2 schools of thought on this. I think Oblivion probably benefited by coming out early in 360's lifespan. There weren't many other games to draw attention away from it. The 1st Bioshock is another example of this imo.
Games were MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH cheaper to make 15 years ago. Faster too.
Also back then, selling a couple of million was considered a successful launch. Now, Bethesda expects to sell 10+ million copies of their mainline titles. It'd be hard to move that many units of Starfield at (or around launch) if both MS and Sony's new boxes are supply-constrained.
 

Admiral Woofington

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Oct 25, 2017
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That sucks, because it means that Elder Scrolls 6 is even farther away -.-°
for what it's worth, we'll get the closest thing to a fresh Elder Scrolls experience before then. There's two teams remaking Oblivion and Morrowind in Skyrim respectively. So a remake is better than nothing.

The Skyblivion project is much further along and I wouldn't be surprised if it's ready to release at some point in 2021 and since it's a mod it's completely free you just need to have both Skyrim and Oblivion with their full DLC/content. aka the GOTY editions.
 

Lunchbox

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No company has lost my good faith as fast as Bethesda since Fallout 4 this gen.
 

Pall Mall

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Oct 25, 2017
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When the last of Skyrim's DLC came out I naively thought ES6 could be a 2016-2017 game. Never did I imagine it could be a ~15 year wait...

More than anything I think that shows how much dev times have expanded. In the PS3/360 gen you could expect 2-3 year dev cycles. I don't even know where we're at anymore, probably always 5< years now for big games?
I worry we're in for another Fallout 4, as in a game made in a vacuum while other games come out and surpass it.
This is a great way of putting it. It was a game that probably would have been received a lot better (not that it wasn't received generally well, but there were glaring issues) had it been a 2011 game.
 

DanteMenethil

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Oct 25, 2017
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So crazy that they skipped the xbox one / ps4 generation for a new elder scroll mainline title. I hope starfield and es6 will be worth the wait.
 

Luckett_X

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Oct 25, 2017
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The faces in the new Bethesda games better be some world leading shit or on par with where most of the dev worlds at, or they will be rightfully crucified.
 

Aprikurt

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Oct 29, 2017
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If Elder Scrolls has a voiced protagonist and forced backstory I'm out

That shit destroyed the immersion of Fallout 4 so thoroughly for me. Like in Skyrim you can be whatever and ignore the Dragonborn stuff for most of the game. In Fallout 4 you will always be a variation of a war veteran who's wife gets killed and child gets abducted.
 

Otheradam

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Nov 1, 2017
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It this console cycle is 7 years again, I really don't think we'll get the next Elder Scrolls until the very last year, or its going to be cross gen/next-next gen. I don't think Starfield is coming until 2022-2023.
 

Quinton

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I'm not the biggest fan of Pete's approach to PR (though it isn't as... oddly hostile if you hear him saying these things instead of just reading the lines) but yeah, there's not a whole lot he can say right now. That's fair.
 

Dyno

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tbh I was assuming elder scrolls would be 2021 and this would be 2023. They need to build a new foundation not just copy the formula if they want this to be a tent pole for them
 

Fabs

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Aug 22, 2019
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Wasn't Fallout 4 debuted and released in the same year. I wouldn't rule out 2021 just yet
 

Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
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please be next gen only............please be next gen only

I'm pretty sure it is. Geoff interviewed Todd Howard back at E3 in 2018 and Howard described the game as a "next-generation" single player experience.

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selfnoise

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of this generations enduring mysteries will always be how Bethesda managed to release one of the best selling video games of all time, then released no sequel to it for decades. It truly is some kind of amazing reverse miracle.
 

Philippo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Take your time Bethesda, god knows you are in dire need to release an RPG that is actually polished and modern.

I clearly need to get more sleep because upon seeing this thread title I was like "what does Seinfeld have to do with Bethesda?"

Now I want Jerry Seinfeld to be the main villain of Elder Scrolls VI. WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH DAEDRA? THEY DON'T COME OUT DURING THE DAY, DO THEY?

And can we please talk about pickpocketing? The other day I was on the subway and this fellow kept searching in my pocket! I remained patient because he was clearly low level, but at some point you just gotta get off!