I disagree that the movie is devoid of emotion. I think it actually has quite a bit of emotion throughout
No.. if you follow the sequence of events in the film, it's specifically talking about new powers. Otherwise, what was the point of Kylo pushing her in the desert? "I needed to see it.. I needed you to see it." is the quote from the film. What do you think he's talking about? He then later says "you don't just have power, you have his power". It's very, very clear they're talking about something different from what the audience has already seen.. or anyone else, for that matter. He then tells her she's a Palp. Like it couldn't be made any clearer in the movie itself. Then, surely enough, we see the big baddie FULL POWERRRRing with anime lightning into the sky, as his last big show of prowess before being defeated.
This movie is not subtle, and it's clearly referring to Palpatine's specific type of powers (or powers he's known most for.. lightning), like you said
Like I've said before, he didn't simply undo what Rian did, it adds a new element that makes the truth of Rey's parentage even harder for her, which was the main point of the "revelation" in TLJ.
The point was to push her to unleash dark side energy? Mighty Skywalker blood is the same fucking line... what do you think that's implying? It implies that that power needs guidance because it's inherently unstable and could lead to the dark side. "He had too much Vader in him."
Kylo Ren was always the character with emotional weight.
..What? Are you implying Luke thinks Skywalkers are inherently leaning to the dark? That's not "the same fucking line", not even close lol. He was just recognizing the power of the bloodline. Kylo, on the other hand, wanted to see "his power", or dark side abilities. I'm not sure why this is confusing at all, it's spelled out in the movie. "Too much Vader" is different from having Skywalker blood, which just means the Force is strong. Luke says this in ROTJ, quite literally: "The Force is strong in my family".
Dude lighting isn't even specific to Palpatine. You'd have a point if it as power exclusive to the bloodline but it's not.
I.. know. I'm not saying it is. I'm saying it's written in the damn movie like it is, which is one of the problems.
Lol have you watched a prequel recently? It's not even close to the worst.
TROS is easily the worst SW film. I've no plans to waste money seeing such an onslaught on the senses again. The first time ever I've not seen a SW film multiple times in theaters.
He always felt like a wannabe for me, didn't have the presence or status of a intimidating, formidable villain, like he kind of fell upwards to his position. Couldn't even figure out he was fighting a Ghost. Because of his internal conflict which was quite apparent it wouldn't have been satisfying seeing him "saved" from himself, it's always hinted he might come back. So no, I didn't accept Ben Solo as the main villain.
I was about to say. I didn't care for much anything in TRoS but it's still immensely better than the prequels.
It's really not though. It's actually weird how fixated you are on that single line like Kylo needed Rey to see that she has the Palpatine power of lightning lmao
He says it in the movie, it's in the dialogue, that he needed to see that type of power that she didn't know she apparently inherited. I'm not sure what is confusing you.
Clearly Mace just needed to borrow an extra from a friend and he could've saved the galaxy, but instead out the windu he went
Rey has the power to do good or evil, healing (good) .. lightning(bad). Whole scene in the tug of war is her getting angrier and angrier in an attempt to overpower Kylo and she unleashes dark side powers. Her lack of focus and anger during her training is a prelude to this.. with the tree falling down on BB8's head. What she inherited is his predilection for the dark side, not lightning. Lightning is just the ultimate expression of that potential.
This is not something you can inherit
TROS is easily the worst SW film. I've no plans to waste money seeing such an onslaught on the senses again. The first time ever I've not seen a SW film multiple times in theaters.
It's not about the force it's about emotions. Also, what do you think he had too much Vader in him means??
I means they were afraid that he'd be like his dad, that he'd follow in his footsteps. Do we really think Luke's aunt and uncle understood how this shit works lol. There has never been any indication that bloodlines determine whether you are a good or bad person, whether you're nudged one way or another. It's simply a measurement of power.
No, that's not what he meant. Too much Vader is not about his power but his mental state as his grandson. The kid was troubled from the beginning and that line is implying he inherited some of Vader's qualities
Yeah but.. that's not talking about the Force. They don't know how any of that works. All they know is that his dad became Space Hitler and they were afraid he might too.
I'm talking about Ben Solo. Leia knows how the force works.
In my opinion after the last Jedi he did not seem like it. we can agree to disagree.
Shouldn't that mean that Leia should also be struggling with the dark side and fending it off? When has she ever done that? She's been nothing bug a beacon of hope, a symbol of the light.
I mean, the characters certainly emote, but I rarely connected with the film or the characters. Rey's flirtation with the Dark Side is never convincing or meaningful; Ben's turn to the Light occurs in the space of a single exchange with the ghost of his dad; Finn and Poe do nothing but accompany Rey and shoot things; Leia's scenes are painfully awkward, bordering on tasteless, and her death is absurd.
It is absolutely part of it. Hence the machine hand and looking at his father and seeing the path he's on.
Yoda: "Much anger in him. Like his father."
Again. That has nothing to do with the Skywalker bloodline lol. It has to do with the decisions Anakin Skywalker made and the destruction he left in his wake.
Again, we're talking about two different people, not an entire bloodline. Why does Leia not struggle with any of this? If that were the case, don't you think someone, anyone, would have mentioned that the Skywalker bloodline is prone to the dark side?
You don't need to train to became a Jedi to feel the Force. Anakin had dark premonitions before he even knew anything about the Force.
