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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker |OT| Revenge of a Sith (SPOILERS NOW OPEN)
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But then Bane in canon got mad because Palpatine wasn't listening to the rule of two
Was he mad at himself
Like, they could try to excuse it as, only the most powerful and oldest sith know about it or that Palpatine never told anyone of his many apprentices. Thos movie created so many bad questions and lore.
Chewie freaking out about Leia did manage to get me like dude, he lost EVERYBODY.
But... You can hit stuff while in hyperspace. That's why you had to plot your course and not blindly jump. Gravity wells are obstacles in hyperspace and everything creates a gravity well. The entire point of Interdicters is to create a gravity well large enough to pull a ship out of hyperspace but the Interdictor itself isnt that big so it doesn't get hit by the Interdicted ship.
Hate and in-fighting is a pretty Sith-y thing. That hasn't changed.
The bottom line is they're all slaves of the Dark Side.
She agreed to it to save all her friends and literally stop the invading fleet
Why would Vader have stopped Luke from killing Palpatine in a fit of rage if that's all it took
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it's awful writing
Baby Yoda and Babu Frik, good month for puppets.
I'm bummed JJ choose not to use the Porgs more, though. It would've been a really sweet thing to see that Rey gave them a home in either the falcon or the Resistance base.
Am I the only one bothered with JJ sticking with the Resistance and not Rebels?
TLJ heavily used Rebels instead of Resistance ("godspeed Rebels", Luke's final words to Kylo Ren, etc), and kinda of made the case that the "death" of the Resistance would be the beginning of a new born Rebellion.
TLJ heavily used Rebels instead of Resistance ("godspeed Rebels", Luke's final words to Kylo Ren, etc), and kinda of made the case that the "death" of the Resistance would be the beginning of a new born Rebellion.
I don't think the sith transferring soul thing is meant to be a normal thing they do, if anything it's something special. Palpatine even calls it a ritual during the whole gathering and when he's basically asking for it.
Yes? I mean they were established as the Resistance in TFA, it's the same group in TLJ, why would they suddenly change their name? And really, they are one and the same
Yes? I mean they were established as the Resistance in TFA, it's the same group in TLJ, why would they suddenly change their name? And really, they are one and the same
"You come from nothing, you are nothing, but not to me." Oh man Kylo came across as an abusive predator in TLJ, I don't like that kiss in ROS at all. I really would have preferred if it just ended with Rey pitying and losing any sexual tension with him after the door closes in TLJ and the dice disappear.
Why is Greg Grunberg in this? Why is Keri Russell in this?
JJ likes to reuse actors.
But it's all the souls of the Sith, so it needs to happen every time a Sith is killed...
I don't think there's anything weird about a 30-year-old nazi dictator serial killer grooming a teenage girl to join him by torturing and repeatedly breaking down her sense of self, rebuilding it to be about her partnership with him, and then making out with her at the end
It's a good lesson for the kids
Charlie from Lost just popped up there and everyone knew him. I questioned myself and thought that he was part of previous movies .... but no 🤣
Pretty sure it's not literal, same as how all the jedi are in Rey suddenly. When we never see Jedi going highlander and powering each other up in death.
Based on how the relationship soured, I didn't expect an unrealistically quick turn around just because the plot demanded it.
Also how am I the one taking things at face value? I'm not the one trying to use history as an argument when it's clearly because the film did not want to develop anything.
Yeah I went in with the film with low expectations after Palpatine was annouced, but on man is that dodgy writing.
I think it's fine for new people to leave and join the rebellion between movies. That makes total sense.
It is however a bit awkward when a major third act thrust of your movie is that Luke's sacrifice to spark a rebellion did nothing and explicitly no one is joining the rebellion to come help because they've all lost hope.
But that's why you made the rule of 2 because of the infighting not "lol actually it's easier to posses" because that actually changes because then why any apprentice trained in the dark side ever agree to it if it requires a ritual especially when they encourage to overthrow your master. What would be the point if you're just possessing the new body
No way any of the previous sith apprentice we knew would ever agree to this
It makes more sense as Palpatine then being a sith thing
Why even train an apprentice just kidnap someone or even trick them
Even in this movie he stalks her with that force chat thing until he turns good for 5 minutes and then everything is ok.
It wasn't unrealistically quick. At least not for SW standards.
You genuinely think she wanted to shoot Poe in the head.
The force chat thing could've been cool if Rey and Kylo Ren were given an actual character arc that made sense. Instead, itsbullshit writing of the highest order.
Yeah I had no idea he was meant to be ten years older than Rey until The Last Jedi. That kinda changes everything about the dynamic of their relationship.
Maybe if it was like a dodgy, toxic relationship in Buffy, ok, but this is Star Wars c'mon.
Given how old Palpatine was when Anakin was a teenager, and the fact that Ben is Anakin's grandson, and that Kylo is that much older than Rey, then...yeah... #releasetheemperorssextape
Wait when in last Jedi did they say he was 10 years older?
So SW standards means it's A-OK? The same series that:
- Had Rose fall inlove with Finn out of nowhere in TLJ, followed by a ridiculously awkward kiss. Now Finn and Rose act like they barely know each other in ROS.
- Had a really dodgy adult-teen relationship with Anakin and Padme. The age-gap, cringe-inducing dialogue, etc. were all indications of it being poorly thought out.
The only good relationship development I've seen is Han Solo and Leia, and even then, that was born out of them retconning Luke and Leia as sisters.
So no, "SW standards" is not a good enough argument.
Did you bother to read what I said? I was talking about the scenario as a whole. It's unrealistic how quickly it went from "I am motivated to kill you" to "I still love you, let's kill FO scrubs." There was no development or any indication of what the relationship meant beyond a simple dialogue (which isn't enough, especially if the idea is that these people knew each other for years. Not to mention, a scorned lover doesn't get over shit quickly).
I'm not sure who is worse at making Star Wars movies, JJ or the fans.
Almost every scene in this movie felt like middle school fanfic or a preshow for a ride at Disney.
What a miserable movie. I can't wait for all the "hm, maybe TLJ was actually good" threads over the next couple years.
Almost every scene in this movie felt like middle school fanfic or a preshow for a ride at Disney.
What a miserable movie. I can't wait for all the "hm, maybe TLJ was actually good" threads over the next couple years.
Kylo discovering a way to contact Rey and becoming more unhinged throughout the film would've been so good. But instead....we got "no THIS time you'll turn damn it."
This movie feels like it tries to be ep.8 for 45 and then ep.9.
This movie feels like it tries to be ep.8 for 45 and then ep.9.
That's poor writing on the part of TROS. Rose falling for FInn really isn't out of nowhere in TLJ.
I'd never defend this as a good thing.
The issue is that the bolded was never a thing, she was never actually motivated to kill him. If she was, it would've happened no questions asked.
What's even weirder about this is that in current canon Chewie actually did get a medal shortly after the Battle of Yavin, just not at the same ceremony as Han and Luke got theirs. He gave his medal away shortly afterward because Wookiees don't care much about medals.
Their ages aren't revealed in the movies but in ancillary materials. Rey was born in 15 BBY and Ben Solo was born in 5 BBY. This is close to the age gap between the actors themselves. Adam is 9 years older than Daisy
That's the best take I've seem and I completely agree.
I had to do for several parts. This movie is a fucking mess.
That's never going to happen. The entire end battle, I was thinking why bother doing ground landing and not just hyper ram the lead ship. Fuck you Rian...
The future thing was always what the writer feels like and what's good for the plot
He can't actually see the future any better than anyone else. Just glimpses that he must interpret and figure out.
It's pretty hilarious. We've seen case studies of what happens if you let fans dictate your work, and yet the same mistakes are allowed to happen. It's like creative teams never learn.
Oh, I know some fans will kick and scream until the end of the time, but it's easy to ignore now that TROS exists and proves that fans are terrible at making movies. TROS is full of bullshit that doesn't make sense and terrible execution.
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