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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker |OT| Revenge of a Sith (SPOILERS NOW OPEN)
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Definitely the worst of the franchise by a country mile.
But worry not. Disney will make this movie look good with their further desecration in the decades to come. In 50 years there will be no Star Wars fan.
It is one of the most beautifully shot scenes in all of Star Wars. Maybe the most beautifully shot. In a movie that has undoubtedly the best cinematography in the entire franchise. Glad we continue to agree.
Palpatine never gets a chance to really show how nasty the Sith can be since he gets shoehorned into that Lightning Guy persona. When you see the kind of sick sith stuff they got going on with partially reanimated corpses possessed by souls etc. The Sith clearly can do some fucked up shit
Can't tell if sarcasm but he never seemed like he was much stronger than Yoda, Mace, or Vader. Like I never really felt that strength gap
Yeah I would kill for actualy wizards in this series.
The Night Sisters stuff in Jedi:Fallen Order was really fucking cool. I know it's not Sith shit, but still force adjacent.
Forgot to mention, but the whole 'You're life isn't determined by the people you're related to, even if they're evil' theme would've been fine... if its version of that theme hadn't already been one of the main thematic and narrative thrusts of Luke's arc in RotJ. RJ's approach to it was far and away better, as was Lucas' original examination of it in the OT.
After seeing Rose get ignored in most of the promotional material leading up to the movie, I had a bad feeling that she was going to get mostly written out, but it ended up somehow worse than I initially expected. She's barely in the movie (and somehow less relevant than even D-O or Babu Friik), but the writers also managed to throw out every character development she was involved with in TLJ—not just her own , but also Finn's (he decides to go on yet another certain-death mission to disable a big enemy device, and she just goes along with it despite that contradicting the entire climax of her and Finn's arcs in TLJ).
Less offensive but just as inexplicable is that TLJ introduced an entire species of alien horses and tied them to Rose and Finn, so when TRoS needs Finn leading a cavalry charge on top of a Star Destroyer (for dubious reasons), they have him ride out alongside... another side character entirely who's given barely any story, with a completely new species of alien horses with no relation to the perfectly serviceable species of alien horses from the last movie. If you wanted to retroactively make the often-criticized Canto Bight subplot more relevant, bringing back Rose and the Fathiers for the cavalry charge would have been a tidy way of doing it, if the writers weren't so obviously resolved to make Rose wholly irrelevant, for reasons that are pretty transparently tied to the backlash against TLJ—including the racist attacks against Kelly Marie Tran.
Less offensive but just as inexplicable is that TLJ introduced an entire species of alien horses and tied them to Rose and Finn, so when TRoS needs Finn leading a cavalry charge on top of a Star Destroyer (for dubious reasons), they have him ride out alongside... another side character entirely who's given barely any story, with a completely new species of alien horses with no relation to the perfectly serviceable species of alien horses from the last movie. If you wanted to retroactively make the often-criticized Canto Bight subplot more relevant, bringing back Rose and the Fathiers for the cavalry charge would have been a tidy way of doing it, if the writers weren't so obviously resolved to make Rose wholly irrelevant, for reasons that are pretty transparently tied to the backlash against TLJ—including the racist attacks against Kelly Marie Tran.
Lando was in significantly less of Empire and he got to come back and have a semi-prominent role in Jedi.
How many people in your theatre whispered "SKYWALKER" like they were geniuses when Rey hesitated on her last name at the end of the movie?
I actually liked the Sith ritual a lot.We should all talk about how Vader saved Luke from killing Palpatine in RotJ now as he didn't want his son to be possessed by Sheev.
But then Palpatine killed himself. Rey should she could use lightening which is clearly now a family thing so I would have liked if she at least shot it herself
So what was up with the whole thing about Finn having to tell Rey something? Poe even brought it up later then nothing.
Also that planet with Poe's old spice running crew, was named Kojimi? Is this another JJ/ Kojima shout out like the red arm in Force Awakens or am I just being crazy?
Also that planet with Poe's old spice running crew, was named Kojimi? Is this another JJ/ Kojima shout out like the red arm in Force Awakens or am I just being crazy?
he was the biggest dork in TFA... I mean MR BIG DEAL. He reminds me of how Jonathan Turned out in MGS4, now all of a sudden he was a badass. That's so stupid.
But Rey still killed Sheev so shouldn't she still be possessed?We should all talk about how Vader saved Luke from killing Palpatine in RotJ now as he didn't want his son to be possessed by Sheev.
Oh god, that was even more of a nothing moment than I'd expected. You could argue Finn logically picked out Pryce's ship as the flagship because A) it's a different model as the hundreds of other Star Destroyers, and B) he was just onboard that ship and knows its significance to the First Order.
But also, who the hell is manning all those Death Star Fleet ships? Tens of millions of those Sith followers? What's their deal? Or was Sith Avatar Palpatine guiding them individually? Wouldn't that have made for a neat and imaginative space combat sequence that demonstrated the terrifying ability of the Big Bad Immortal Emperor? Food for thought. Or not.
Probably that he was in love with her.
Maybe they shot footage of this
Ive said it for a long time even before they finally introduced this more horror element that based even on old EU Sith Lore if they wanted to make movies within the star wars universe across different Genre they could easily make some Scary horror like movies based off the Sith. I mean even in the old EU Palpatine was doing crazy shit to Animals turning them into monsters etc.
They even have Finn make a quip about how this is his first time riding to complete the memory hole.
It was the tension between I love you and I can use the force. It's jj so the mystery was never solved
Sheev killed himself with his own lightning because reasons
Sheev lookin at Luke's bod like my dog at a hamburgerWe should all talk about how Vader saved Luke from killing Palpatine in RotJ now as he didn't want his son to be possessed by Sheev.
Strike me down imma eat that shit up
Why didn't Sheev posses Vader then? Why does Sheev mock Plagueis like he's a different person?
This retcon doesn't even work.
yes
fortnite is star wars canon now
and JJ ended up running like Naruto during that event
Nothing JJ does makes sense if you think about it for more than five seconds. It's remarkably consistent.
There was one girl who did back to back audible gasps when Kylo revealed that Rey was Palpatine's grand daughter.
So like, did Palpatine order his own child to be killed? Because one of Rey's parents was Palpatine's kid. Was it his son or daughter?
I'm assuming there's a book out about this or that one is being written soon.
So like, did Palpatine order his own child to be killed? Because one of Rey's parents was Palpatine's kid. Was it his son or daughter?
I'm assuming there's a book out about this or that one is being written soon.
I first figured it was an 'I love you' and as the film went on I figured it was that he was force sensitive (since they hinted at it).
Then both JJ and I forgot all about it until I just posted here.
When that happened..... no cheers, not even when Lando and Luke showed up
A dumb plot device about lightsaber lore would have fit right in this film.
I watched it last night, but didn't even care to comment at the time. What a throwaway movie. I'll always like Driver and I was glad to have the crew together for most of the movie,...but it was just awful.
I look forward to Rian's trilogy, but otherwise, they really need to scale back and stick to serialized TV.
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I look forward to Rian's trilogy, but otherwise, they really need to scale back and stick to serialized TV.
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Rey's powers make less sense to me. Is force lightening just a genetic trait?
I didn't want to ask about this because I felt it might've been explained more eloquently than her having connection to all past Jedi. Still bothered me though.
I didn't want to ask about this because I felt it might've been explained more eloquently than her having connection to all past Jedi. Still bothered me though.
Rey didnt kill Sheev. Rey was defending herself and Sheev killed Sheev from trying to overpower her defense. The difference between darkside and light
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