What was worse was that I heard people trying to applaud that moment.
People TRIED TO START an applause for it.
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker |OT| Revenge of a Sith (SPOILERS NOW OPEN)
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People TRIED TO START an applause for it.
the problem is not that, the problem is the falcon dont being able to sustain it. and rey not wanting anything to happen to it because of Han
But her parents were Palpatines and gave their lives to save her. Great way to honor them, throw their name away to take the name of people you've known very briefly.
I think there's a (big) division between those who view Star Wars as a piece of film, and those who view it as part of a larger universe, and that's reflected in how people view TLJ.
It's like the cave on Dagobah: you can only see "what you take with you".
They actually weren't well-planned, though. That's the point. Lucas was openly admitting he needed more time and to do more drafts on the PT and they were insanely rushed. Some of the behind-the-scene stuff literally has the crew saying Lucas was lost trying to re-edit the films to make them work over and over again, resulting in dozens of hours of actual important information and character moments they had filmed being discarded or cut at the last minute.
But, yes, let's go with a "clear DESTINATION" at least for the movies. For all their faults, we knew exactly what the PT was going to do... and to its credit, it did what it promised to do - destroy the Jedi Order, have Anakin fall to the Dark Side and turn on his mentor, and set the stage for the OT. It didn't do it elegantly, but the finish line never wavered or changed.
What was the point of this trilogy? What was the overall message? What was the ultimately goal when TFA was being made?
Disney has historically been making life hell for the comic and game makers of the Star Wars tie-ins by having created entire Star Wars Continuity Police that oversees everything and their only job is to maintain consistency and canon. They utterly have been failing the one and only job that brain trust was created for.
So, yes, having a Kevin Feige-esque figure who was able to shepherd 23 movies - all well-received to varying degrees - to a universally well-received 23-movie-saga conclusion wasn't too much to ask, especially given that this trilogy was just three movies. Just three. That's all they had to do. Marvel did it with two dozen films in a decade. Star Wars's crew didn't because they were constantly changing the themes and messages and plots and characters of the films beat by beat until the end.
do you really think that palpy son/daughter was around telling everybody he was a palpatine? lol
They can't save that name lol. Anyways add to that with Ben dead, the SkyWalker line is pretty much defunct so might as well take it.
Just think of it as some alternate timeline where Luke and Leia were not siblings and had Rey =P
Liked the final battle location with the cloaked sith worshippers. Really played up the religious aspect of the Sith Order.
Probably died off-screen like Admiral Ackbar. Wait for the Extended Edition.
Yeah. I noticed they seem to be a lot more strict with spinoffs that more people are likely to not even see than they are the mainline movies.
A not-Coruscant that you gave zero shits about because JJ's prequel phobia is more important to him than making the audience feel like they lost a planet they've known for 3 films
Nah. His step son died tho.
Not sure how Wedge could die on the Falcon.
And that's what hurts so much.
The disrespect. Only way to fix this mess is to establish it as an alternate universe.
I should have been more clear and not have referenced the entire post. I was thinking more about the Holdo maneuver and how I felt immediately after it happened -that any excuse to why it couldn't happen again in future movies would feel cheap. It was a moment where it felt like the writer cheated to service their version of their story without thinking about how it would kneecap any future space conflict.
I know a lot of movies break their own rules in order to tell their story, but that specific moment felt particularly egregious to me. It didn't help that it was the conclusion of several different threads that I couldn't buy into (Poe's mutiny and how he was treated afterward, the reasoning for why the bad dudes couldn't take out their particular ship-making them look incompetent in the process, and the fact that the slow chase took up most of the running time of the movie)
Yea, there is also a lot of this in the film, so much stuff thrown out that I don't know how people are going to get the references (let alone emotionally react to them) unless they're completely read up on the universe heading in. It's only 3 films ffs it's not like there are 1817 films and tidbits to keep track of like Marvel
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of Kojima when I heard that planet's name.
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The disrespect. Only way to fix this mess is to establish it as an alternate universe.
No but presumably she is proud of her parents and has learned that she isn't bound by her ancestry.
I'd bet Iger is more the cause of the problem than Kennedy. He designed this schedule, including Solo and Rogue One. Without the need to get Epix out this year, they could have fired Trevorrow and either waited for Johnson to finish Knives Out or find someone that they could really work with to make a stronger screenplay. Heck, they could have even tossed the two-movie Harry Potter/Hunger Games/Avengers-style idea out there for a few years in the distance.
Kennedy made some mistakes here, but she was working within a framework that really didn't allow stopping to breathe at all.
All 3 of the Resistance Broadcast podcast peeps liked to love the movie it seems. Although, sounded like 2 of them were kind of meh on it first viewing.
Hey
Did you ever want to watch Lando sitting alone looking around desperately for someone he recognizes as the existential dread falls upon him that everyone he knows is dead
This is the finale for you!
Did you ever want to watch Lando sitting alone looking around desperately for someone he recognizes as the existential dread falls upon him that everyone he knows is dead
This is the finale for you!
The Kylo Ren tie in comic retconned Kylo destroying the temple to try and make him look like a less of a mass murderer for this movie
Turns out Lightning conveniently hit the temple the very same night he turned.
This all the proof you need to know what level of pllaning the plot of this trilogy had
Turns out Lightning conveniently hit the temple the very same night he turned.
This all the proof you need to know what level of pllaning the plot of this trilogy had
I heard Lucas skipped out on going to the premier. This is probably why.
The disrespect. Only way to fix this mess is to establish it as an alternate universe.
Man, remember back when Palpy using force lighting in RotJ was this awesome, terrifying moment that demonstrated the scope of his powers and what he was capable of doing with the Dark Side?
Then came the EU and suddenly everyone and their mother used force lighting. Even Luke used it a couple times.
I was excited for this comic but that and Katharine Hepburn Snoke ruined it.
How does long range communication work in Star Wars? Lando and Chewie had to fly the Falcon somewhere to 'get help', and during the end battle Poe remarks that 'the whole galaxy is fighting back' and then cuts to the other places people have risen up against the First Order.
So are there some sorts of communication hubs for long range dispersal of messages? Or does it only make sense when it's convenient to the plot?
So are there some sorts of communication hubs for long range dispersal of messages? Or does it only make sense when it's convenient to the plot?
Probably took one blaster shot and retreated like he did at the Death Star lol
What about the Knights Ren just being a bunch of idiots who worship lightsabers and burn their nipples with them?
Some day I want Lucas to come out full force and say what he thinks of the sequel trilogy. I really do.
Seriously? Is there more new "supplemental" canon nonsense like this in the new comics?
I think the larger issue is Kathleen isn't really the visionary here. An incredible producer and collaborator, but they tossed Lucas's stuff and brought in external teams. I think she's done a pretty good job all things considered as all five movies feel like Star Wars and hit the right production values, were mostly on time etc, and hindsight is 20/20.
For a long time the filmmakers have always sort of overruled any EU canon, so the story group is at the mercy of those filmmakers. Rian worked closely with them, but it appears JJ didn't really (was the Pablo letterboxed account ever validated?) - and did most of the work inside of Bad Robot.
It's also interesting so much of TFA and ROTS leaked while TLJ mostly stayed under wraps by comparison. Bad Robot is a leaky ship, it seems
For a long time the filmmakers have always sort of overruled any EU canon, so the story group is at the mercy of those filmmakers. Rian worked closely with them, but it appears JJ didn't really (was the Pablo letterboxed account ever validated?) - and did most of the work inside of Bad Robot.
It's also interesting so much of TFA and ROTS leaked while TLJ mostly stayed under wraps by comparison. Bad Robot is a leaky ship, it seems
Nah, because reformed Stormtrooper #14942 is there.
The woman next to me said to her guy "she's his daughter!" in that very "they must all know each and be related" moment.
Thanks for reminding me why I always have and always will treat anything not in the films as non- canon.
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