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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker |OT| Revenge of a Sith (SPOILERS NOW OPEN)
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Yeah, like what? People interpreted that as her moving there? It was to lay their sabers to rest.
Yeah it's tough to have a bunch of cool ideas that you spent years pontificating on tossed aside by a director change.
Maybe you're thinking of Wedge?
Nahh she got that gold/yellow at the end which was true vindication.
if you imagine you're about to die, that probably wouldn't the last super important thing you want to tell your friend, would end up with "ok? so now we die." I mean sure it could be, but it'd be dumb imo.
One thing that stood out to me watching TLJ that not even RoS managed to top, that feeling of tension and dread during the showdown with Snoke. It felt like there were actual stakes, like during RotJ.
That's not an ass pull, that was Rey overattached to the parents who left her. Episode VII was called the Force Awakens, you had an explanation there, something simplistic and mythical with the force than happened, decades after the galactic war had eneded. Her coming to terms with it and still desireing to be a jedi was a testament to her character, so she finds out she's Palpatine granddaughter, ok let's say that's a good concept on paper, never mind the awful scene where Kylo says he likes he's on autopilot, but where does it lead? She kills him and we find out she's a strong person (but we know that already!) TLJ was a better ending than ROS, even if it wouldn't have wrapped everything up, it's more inspiring and Kylo being humilated on Crait was more satsfying than the emperor dying yet again.
Was Sheev's plot really that confusing? I figure he told Kylo to kill her because she's a Palp, knowing that Kylo has internally struggled with light and dark for multiple movies now, and figured he wouldn't be able to do it but would tell her the truth, fueling her into coming for him, so that he can enact his plan of taking over her body. I know it wasn't outright said but I just gathered some Sheev 6D chess.
Also, yes, Han scene was best of the entire movie. No idea Ford was back, and Adam Driver is so damn good.
Also, yes, Han scene was best of the entire movie. No idea Ford was back, and Adam Driver is so damn good.
The Han scene is the only scene I legitimately liked in the movie. Fan service of the right kind.
I'm just saying if that's what it was meant to be maybe they should have been clear about it because I didn't think it was 'I Love You'. It wasn't clear to me. I genuinely thought it was something else.
This is such a stupid movie, lol.
Like what was the point of all of that if you're literally going to kill him 10 seconds later?
I wish this trilogy started with Kylo at the academy, as a bright-eyed padawan fully bought into the Jedi credo. Then he meets Rey—the scavenger, who's life on the fringe and lack of structure becomes something of a draw for Kylo. He falls for her, and over time, learns that her predicament is a result of the empire's destruction. Let that be the entry point to her past as a daughter of the Sith. Let that be the point of contention for Kylo and Luke. Focus the story around that, and the fear that Luke may not only be losing Kylo, but possibly be training a new leader of a new yet-to-be-formed empire. Have this be what shakes his own faith in the Jedi.
I want a character driven love story / tragedy. Don't need all the big picture epic shit.
I want a character driven love story / tragedy. Don't need all the big picture epic shit.
lol I guess a better version of what George tried to do
Really? That's one of my most hated scenes in the franchise lol. Snoke and his gold smoking jacket in his pervert lair
Han was better in that one scene than he was in all of TFA, he actually put in work.
Yup. She didn't think she deserved to wield it or that she hadn't earned the right to but I assume Abrams didn't want it to be broken in The Last Jedi so he just handwaved it and said it wasn't.
Why would he be anxious about telling his best friends, who are already used to one of their friends having superpowers, about having superpowers?
Rey's seen with both parts of the lightsaber on the ship at the end of TLJ, it wasn't destroyed, just broken into two pieces by the looks of it.
I actually like the parallel here to TFA, because Jannah is basically a reflection of where Finn started out in this trilogy and now Finn is not just a resistance fighter but a general in that resistance, committed to a cause. They didn't have nearly enough time to get into this in any kind of depth but it was a neat idea for a character dynamic.
Yeah I get that but at the same time TLJ already concluded that blood doesn't define who you are, your choices do. This movie doesn't really add anything in that sense, it just redoes it but this time with the added wrinkle of making the hero of the story Hitler's granddaughter.
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I dunno, when you're about to die I don't know "btw I'm force sensitive" is something that really matters. Telling someone you love them does
Having just watched that I'm happy it was just mentioned in the crawl. That added NOTHING.
It's probably my favorite in the ST(low bar). They actually convey that he's powerful and a genuine threat, if still a non-character, then it slowly ramps up with Kylo's conflict, there's that silent shared moment of 'well shit' before the team up.
Can someone explain to me what Leia actually did with her last act? I get why Luke died, I get why Ben died, but I'm not sure what Leia's grand last act truly was.
That was the best scene in the movie. It had heart, it looked amazing and it even had some non-cheesy callbacks. If only the movie had done more of that, trying to work properly with what we saw in TFA and TLJ, than throwing so much shit at the screen.
She used to the Force to speak to her son from across the galaxy, in a less grandiose version of what Luke did during TLJ.
So they can have the cool, smart, efficient space nazi who tolerates no nonsense and has a >:( face the entire time can take his place.
Because that's better than Admiral "the joke" Hux.
It got torn in half in TLJ and she fixes it between movies. When it's first shown in TROS you can see she's bolted it back together with some new parts.
It's definitely the best scene in the movie, some clunky dialogue aside.
This is the only part that made me a little upset. Like I knew it was coming, so I wasn't surprised, but why even bother with the "Rey I have something to tell you" subplot which had no resolution whatsoever?
I remember reading either this thread or the other spoiler one last night someone was talking about a Rey line being copied from Avengers or something ... what was that all about ?
I saw the movie yesterday, didn't notice anything like that.
On topic, the movie was just OK. I'm sure it was hinted before in the previous movies but this movie kinda made it pretty obvious that Finn was force sensitive too.. which was a nice touch.
I saw the movie yesterday, didn't notice anything like that.
On topic, the movie was just OK. I'm sure it was hinted before in the previous movies but this movie kinda made it pretty obvious that Finn was force sensitive too.. which was a nice touch.
Because its not chess lol. If he didn't want her dead there is literally zero reason to tell Kylo to kill her. Especially because Kylo never wanted to kill her to begin with. He even tells her he wants to take her to him so they can both kill him. So no chess was needed. He wanted her dead, until he didn't, until he wanted her to kill him for no reason, until he just became the emperor himself, until she killed him but not the way he wanted her to so she wins?
Nothing about this makes ANY sense whatsoever.
I mean, that scene QUITE LITERALLY makes sense if they just bailed on her. A little kid looking up at a starship flying away and going "COME BACK" doesn't insinuate anything other than the fact she was abandoned. That's it.
I don't think he did. He tells Ben that he's just his memory.
Wasn't a Jedi Ghost, I think they even say explicitly that it's in his head, it's his memory of his father, not the spirit or blue glowie.
I saw it last night too and liked it but it really shows how much better of a film TLJ is than people have it credit for. The Reylo shipping has been there since even after TFA so retroactively coming back and saying the kiss was shocking and citing pearl clutching moral implications is just dumb. I generally hate the way JJ just info dumps shit though and that's been a complaint I've had since TFA. I'm basically just glad its over and hopefully they just realize Star Wars is perfect for TV and focus on building the universe with more shows like Mando.
Okay, I can buy that. For some reason my mind is like, blank on this moment. What did she tell him?
eh I think that was more a consequence of the footage they have of Carrie being so limited that it wouldn't be clear just from that context what was happening.
He wasn't a force ghost. He wasn't translucent and blue.
Like he tells Ben, he's Ben's memory of Han. It's unclear if it's just a hallucination or Ben's thought process or what, but it wasn't Han using the standard force ghost process.
The act of reaching out with the force that distance is apparently very strenuous. So her voicemail to Ben getting him to back off for a second while fighting Rey was enough.
It's inconsistent given what Luke can do and what Snoke/Palp can do. But I guess Leia isn't as strong in the force or practiced so the strain was greater on her despite the act being lesser.
"I am inevitable" -> I am all the sith
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