That was him.Did John Williams have a cameo in Babu Frik's place or was that my eyes playing tricks on me? I think he was a barman or something.
Rule of threes. You don't bring something up twice and then give it no resolution of any kind. You're right, it was obvious, so the second scene wasn't needed at all and set the expectation of it being something that gets a payoff and not a one off comment.
It really is the most fundamental storytelling in film.
owNo, but he is skipping over the fact that Rey and Kylo share a passionate kiss before he dies.
This is exactly how I thought this final 3rd film should have gone. TLJ set up Kylo to be the main villain. He's killed a lot of people and probably shouldn't be redeemed. Luke could haunt him as a force ghost which would be fun and funny (hinted at when he says "see you around kid"). Lightsaber was broken, so with the ancient books she has to go and find a new crystal and build a lightsaber. Maybe a dual staff one since she loves using a staff. TLJ set up an easy final movie. JJ - let's bring back palpatine (ugh!).
Jedi texts are seen, and she's reading them, Luke's saber could've been fixed between the movies, she was holding the parts of the broken saber on the Falcon at the end of TLJ.so what's the deal with the jedi texts and luke's saber? did they just retcon it or is there some explanation?
The fact that the broadcast isn't actually in the movie and you have to play Fortnite to hear it is the most asinine corporate-ass thing imaginable.
Palps to me was pushing 70 by the time of RotS, so likely 90ish during the OT films. ST was set 30 years later so Rey's dad being 35ish would mean he was born after the PT, close to mid/late point Empire's reign before the OT.Age question that left me a bit confused.
How much time has passed since Anakin became Vader? I ask because Papaltine was pretty old even then. His son looked like he was maybe 35-40 in the flashback sequences. Help me with the timeline of how old Papaltine would have had to be when his son was born.
battlefront?
That was him.
I believe I also spied Anthony Daniels piloting a resistance ship at the end, but I could be wrong.
The fact that the broadcast isn't actually in the movie and you have to play Fortnite to hear it is the most asinine corporate-ass thing imaginable.
What's in bad faith is pretending that the only way for the plot to move forward is for the Emperor to be involved at all, and that any deviation from that is a failure of storytelling. TLJ clearly moves the story forward but does so in a manner that would've required thinking of something new for the finale beyond Rey and Kylo vs. Emperor. JJ was clearly not comfortable with the idea of Kylo Ren being the final villain.You can like and love TLJ, fine. But not acknowledging that this movie did nothing to move the plot forward as a mid-trilogy EP should, is straight up bad faith.
I would have loved if for instance, when Snoke dies, that they introduce the Emperor as the big Mastermind right off the bat. Showing him in the trailer was weak and ruined a potential big moment.
It shouldn't have happened, but on the other side of it, it gave us the best version of Rey in the films. It gave Daisy something to work with in regards to her character being conflicted, scared, and angry. My issue is I think you could have gotten the same general anxiety from Rey in another way without such an obvious ass pull.
I am open to changing my mind after rewatch! My initial impression from hearing "you're a Palpatine" was this strikes me as a really bad choice, and I know I wasn't alone on that as my whole theater really groaned at that haha. Hopefully it will play better for me now that I know about it going in the next time.This is a tough one to parse because obvious TRoS is a little haphazard, but I think I'm personally cool with it. I don't read it as a rebuke but a reasonable augmentation.
In TLJ Rey was looking for direction and purpose. Her parent's being "special" would give her direction and a "place in all this", but hearing they were nobody that abandoned her was the hardest thing she could face. It was necessary because it put her down the path of self-determination. She must give herself direction and purpose.
In TRoS, she has a place but is struggling to make it work. She is the last Jedi and the hope for the future. She has a role and a purpose and is working on defining herself. At this stage, the reveal that she is Palpatine's granddaughter is the hardest thing she can hear because it undermines that purpose and suggests she carries an inherent evil. Who she is is the opposite of the purpose she has found. She is potentially not the hope for the future, but the ultimate threat against it. The lessons and themes from TLJ are carried through though, I think. She is not defined by her blood, it doesn't even matter if her parents were special or not, she can be who she chooses to be. The message is augmented from "anybody can be president" to "anybody can be good".
You could argue that this undoes the spirit of "anybody can be president" or the democratization of the force, but as we know plenty of special people have been Jedi in the past. I think opening up the force is still maintained and better served by people like broomboy or Finn, who demonstrate the force flowing beyond the chosen one.
That was him.
I believe I also spied Anthony Daniels piloting a resistance ship at the end, but I could be wrong.
The thing about Reylo is that I was legit surprised by it.See last night when people said this I thought maybe I just missed it but like theres no way that that was actually what he was trying to say. It was obviously being set up that he loves her and they just dropped it and never acknowledged it or refilmed reylo and got rid of it. Which is so much worse than a finn rey relationship.
i thought they were burned in TLJ?Jedi texts are seen, and she's reading them, Luke's saber could've been fixed between the movies, she was holding the parts of the broken saber on the Falcon at the end of TLJ.
movie has tons of other problems htough.
He was going to tell her he was force sensitive. That's how I took it anyways, so yeah, perhaps it did need clarifying.couldn't have been more obvious that he was going to say he loves her. Needed no explanation, in my opinion.
i thought they were burned in TLJ?
i suppose it could've been fixed.
how is that in any way comparable? the crawl in ANH sets up a whole word. TRoS follows TLJ and the opening crawl mentions something that's happend in Fortnite... not even SW: Battlefront II a star wars property.The fact that stealing the plans of the death star isn't in ANH means ANH is trash
Let it go lmfao, it's not needed. There are way more glaring issues with the film.
Well, I strongly disagree that there was ever any insinuation in TFA that Leia knew who Rey was. Not sure what actual evidence within the film you are basing that on. And the saber echoes still don't even really make sense in this because it's not like they showed moments that had anything to do with the Sith or Palpatine or anything like that. At best, it pointed to her possibly being a Skywalker or force sensitive. The ship imagery works with her being sold for drinking money in my opinion. That could have conceivably been the moment she was abandoned and both TFA and TLJ play up the idea that being abandoned was her greatest fear and something she has been suppressing.Just like the not at all subtle idea of a child preternaturally gifted in the force being stranded on a planet randomly at age 5 or so, with imagery of her staring up at the leaving ship signaling a clear message of "there's more to this" to the viewership, along with clear insinuation that Leia knows who she is in TFA--suddenly turns into "they were nobodies and simply sold you for drinking money" in TLJ?
That ass pull was apparently fine in TLJ though?
Is there even anything to analyze in this movie btw. Like, we spent years debating about TLJ and what it all meant. This movie's analysis will be about whether it was all a joke or not.
Moreso since they never have Finn and Rose get intimate, even when there was a massive opportunity to do so in the finale.See last night when people said this I thought maybe I just missed it but like theres no way that that was actually what he was trying to say. It was obviously being set up that he loves her and they just dropped it and never acknowledged it or refilmed reylo and got rid of it. Which is so much worse than a finn rey relationship.
Rey comes from 'special' blood, but Luke tells her what matters is her spirit not her blood...which is fine, but that if her blood doesn't matter, why make a point of her being Palpatine's granddaughter at all?
He was going to tell her he was force sensitive. That's how I took it anyways, so yeah, perhaps it did need clarifying.
No, Rey stole them in TLJ (seen on the falcon as well, when Finn is picking up a blankett from a storage compartment), which is why Yoda says something to the effect of "there's nothing in the library that Rey doesn't already posses" (cause she stole the books).i thought they were burned in TLJ?
i suppose it could've been fixed.
He was on screen for literally .2 seconds. And like a minute after his step son bit the big one.That Wedge cameo was lame as hell too, feels like something they put in a day before they sent the movie to cinemas.
I think that was the implication, yes. He and Leia have known all along.Also - how/when exactly did Luke know that Rey was a Palpatine? Are we supposed to infer that he knew that the entire time he was training her in TLJ?
Age question that left me a bit confused.
How much time has passed since Anakin became Vader? I ask because Papaltine was pretty old even then. His son looked like he was maybe 35-40 in the flashback sequences. Help me with the timeline of how old Papaltine would have had to be when his son was born.
He's clearly force sensitive. He clearly hasn't told anyone, so you've got to imagine he has a reason.they do a scene in the worm tunnel where poe says "BUT NOT WHILE I'M HERE HUH"
obv it was romance imo
Rey took them from the Jedi Tree before she left the island. You see them in a drawer on the Falcon towards the end of TLJ.
yeah it was destroyed in TLJ. somehow it got fixed.IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER THIS PLEASE HELP ME
Was Rey using Anakins lightsaber through the movie?? It was destroyed in TLJ! Maybe I was seeing it wrong
At least we didn't get another Leia death fake out given how well that worked out last time lolChewie "dies" and is shown to be alive minutes later with no impact
C3PO loses his memory but then gets it back with no impact
Kylo dies and is brought back to life, only to die again later
Rey dies but comes back to life
The only impactful death in the movie was the death of many's interest in the franchise
Ah man. So he had to watch Snap die.
He's clearly force sensitive. He clearly hasn't told anyone, so you've got to imagine he has a reason.
Best pilot in the Galaxy (arguably) and they shoved him a fucking gunners seat.He was on screen for literally .2 seconds. And like a minute after his step son bit the big one.
The only impactful death in the movie was the death of many's interest in the franchise