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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker |OT| Revenge of a Sith (SPOILERS NOW OPEN)
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That was him.
I believe I also spied Anthony Daniels piloting a resistance ship at the end, but I could be wrong.
Felt like the kiss scene was actively giving him the middle finger too. Finn deserves better :/
Stolen from the (savage) Slate Spoiler Special:
"Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe's she's Palpatine!"
"Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe's she's Palpatine!"
The idea of Luke being the pestering Force Ghost uncle was so promising, especially since I loved Hamill and Driver's small interactions TLJ. What a damn waste.
In my mind, the "Skywalker saga" ends with Luke dying, inspiring a galaxy. Beautiful.
Jedi texts are seen, and she's reading them, Luke's saber could've been fixed between the movies, she was holding the parts of the broken saber on the Falcon at the end of TLJ.
movie has tons of other problems htough.
The fact that stealing the plans of the death star isn't in ANH means ANH is trash
Let it go lmfao, it's not needed. There are way more glaring issues with the film.
Palps to me was pushing 70 by the time of RotS, so likely 90ish during the OT films. ST was set 30 years later so Rey's dad being 35ish would mean he was born after the PT, close to mid/late point Empire's reign before the OT.
battlefront?
yeah, they've turned it around and the player count is rising. it's fantastic to play now.
One touch I liked from the score: revisiting the Vader dies music from ROTJ when Rey explores the DS2 wreckage.
I don't know if I'd call this the best version of Rey but I agree that her struggles with the dark side in this film could've still been done without the bloodline retcon for it.
What's in bad faith is pretending that the only way for the plot to move forward is for the Emperor to be involved at all, and that any deviation from that is a failure of storytelling. TLJ clearly moves the story forward but does so in a manner that would've required thinking of something new for the finale beyond Rey and Kylo vs. Emperor. JJ was clearly not comfortable with the idea of Kylo Ren being the final villain.
I don't know if I'd call this the best version of Rey but I agree that her struggles with the dark side in this film could've still been done without the bloodline retcon for it.
I am open to changing my mind after rewatch! My initial impression from hearing "you're a Palpatine" was this strikes me as a really bad choice, and I know I wasn't alone on that as my whole theater really groaned at that haha. Hopefully it will play better for me now that I know about it going in the next time.
The thing about Reylo is that I was legit surprised by it.
Like, I realized that Rey and Kylo Ren had a special relationship between them as rivals that also see into each other so deeply, so it's super easy to project romantic feelings onto that.
The thing is, the only scene it ever felt like it was when Rey went "oh gosh" at walking in on Kylo Ren shirtless during their force talks. Otherwise, I felt Rey regarded him as a broken individual that she could help and wants to if she can, but otherwise just recognizes that Kylo Ren's too much of a headcase to actually be with.
It's not like I'm against Reylo conceptually, but I wasn't really for it because other than her stopping short at him being shirtless, she never indicated interest in him. It's almost like they were siblings with how Luke and Han and Leia played paternal roles in their lives.
So when their kiss happened, I was like "What? Really? When did this happen?" more than anything.
i thought they were burned in TLJ?
i suppose it could've been fixed.
Saw it last night, but needed to sleep on it. I...think it's a bad movie, but I really enjoyed it.
Palaptine's introduction was one of the laziest, pulled out of the ass ideas I've ever seen in a movie. How does this event just happen a title crawl? It reads like a fan-fiction and even his on screen reveal felt unceremonious for such a big character. Ian McDiarmid did well for what he had to work with, which was practically nothing. You're not ever going to convince me that he was intended all along. The force lightning storm scene was awesome though. The final battle also felt pretty flaccid. Was hoping for a full on duel after he regenerated.
Totally fine with Rey being a Palpatine and it was one of the first things I predicted even as far back as TLJ. While I don't believe Palaptine was intended to be the final villain, I always suspected Rey's lineage having ties to the darkside. Not sure why anyone took Kylo "confirmation" at face value and him telling her she was a "no one" only affirmed that she was actually somebody. I don't think the reveal uncut any point that TLJ was trying to make. All of the movies showed how anyone is able to tune into the force if you believe/trust in it, but Rey was a notable exception to everywhere. I almost wish she had taken the name Palpatine, embracing her own legacy, rather than taking on Skywalker's name. Or just Rey would have been fine. Still, I enjoyed her conclusion. That scene with her accidentally producing force lighting got an audible "oh shiiitttt" from me.
Kylo Ren was great, but I'm a little sad that he died. When Leia died and called out to him, I couldn't help but tear up. When Han Solo showed up, I fucking lost it. Great acting from Adam Driver. Oh, and the Knights of Ren were lame AF, but him swagging on them was so satisfying.
Hated hated HATED what they did with Finn and Rose. It's probably the one thing that made me angry. Completely bent the knee to idiots online and every milquetoast interaction between them made it worse. They act like the kiss in TLJ NEVER HAPPENED and they just awkwardly go about their business. Canto Bight was boring, but Rose had nothing to do with that. Maybe it was her decision to take a step back because of the harassment, but fuck does it make me mad.
I gotta say I felt the humor hit the mark a lot better this time around. C-3P0 made me laugh pretty much every time, and the quip overall felt much more natural than the last movie. Can't recall any time where I rolled my eyes.
I love what they did with Leia and it's about time we saw the warrior side. Again, I didn't understand why everyone was so bent out of shape over her flying in space in TLJ - of COURSE she would be able to do that. All I could think about how it's such a shame we got this ST so late. I would have loved to see Luke and Leia training students in between ROTJ and TFA. That's the sequel I wanted to see, but unfortunately we don't live in that timeline.
Still processing everything, and I'm totally going to see it again. I enjoyed it, but it's definitely a mess.
Palaptine's introduction was one of the laziest, pulled out of the ass ideas I've ever seen in a movie. How does this event just happen a title crawl? It reads like a fan-fiction and even his on screen reveal felt unceremonious for such a big character. Ian McDiarmid did well for what he had to work with, which was practically nothing. You're not ever going to convince me that he was intended all along. The force lightning storm scene was awesome though. The final battle also felt pretty flaccid. Was hoping for a full on duel after he regenerated.
Totally fine with Rey being a Palpatine and it was one of the first things I predicted even as far back as TLJ. While I don't believe Palaptine was intended to be the final villain, I always suspected Rey's lineage having ties to the darkside. Not sure why anyone took Kylo "confirmation" at face value and him telling her she was a "no one" only affirmed that she was actually somebody. I don't think the reveal uncut any point that TLJ was trying to make. All of the movies showed how anyone is able to tune into the force if you believe/trust in it, but Rey was a notable exception to everywhere. I almost wish she had taken the name Palpatine, embracing her own legacy, rather than taking on Skywalker's name. Or just Rey would have been fine. Still, I enjoyed her conclusion. That scene with her accidentally producing force lighting got an audible "oh shiiitttt" from me.
Kylo Ren was great, but I'm a little sad that he died. When Leia died and called out to him, I couldn't help but tear up. When Han Solo showed up, I fucking lost it. Great acting from Adam Driver. Oh, and the Knights of Ren were lame AF, but him swagging on them was so satisfying.
Hated hated HATED what they did with Finn and Rose. It's probably the one thing that made me angry. Completely bent the knee to idiots online and every milquetoast interaction between them made it worse. They act like the kiss in TLJ NEVER HAPPENED and they just awkwardly go about their business. Canto Bight was boring, but Rose had nothing to do with that. Maybe it was her decision to take a step back because of the harassment, but fuck does it make me mad.
I gotta say I felt the humor hit the mark a lot better this time around. C-3P0 made me laugh pretty much every time, and the quip overall felt much more natural than the last movie. Can't recall any time where I rolled my eyes.
I love what they did with Leia and it's about time we saw the warrior side. Again, I didn't understand why everyone was so bent out of shape over her flying in space in TLJ - of COURSE she would be able to do that. All I could think about how it's such a shame we got this ST so late. I would have loved to see Luke and Leia training students in between ROTJ and TFA. That's the sequel I wanted to see, but unfortunately we don't live in that timeline.
Still processing everything, and I'm totally going to see it again. I enjoyed it, but it's definitely a mess.
He was going to tell her he was force sensitive. That's how I took it anyways, so yeah, perhaps it did need clarifying.
You know that a movie is bad when it uses the "fake death trick" four times and the audience just reacts to the first one.
Rey took them from the Jedi Tree before she left the island. You see them in a drawer on the Falcon towards the end of TLJ.
how is that in any way comparable? the crawl in ANH sets up a whole word. TRoS follows TLJ and the opening crawl mentions something that's happend in Fortnite... not even SW: Battlefront II a star wars property.
Well, I strongly disagree that there was ever any insinuation in TFA that Leia knew who Rey was. Not sure what actual evidence within the film you are basing that on. And the saber echoes still don't even really make sense in this because it's not like they showed moments that had anything to do with the Sith or Palpatine or anything like that. At best, it pointed to her possibly being a Skywalker or force sensitive. The ship imagery works with her being sold for drinking money in my opinion. That could have conceivably been the moment she was abandoned and both TFA and TLJ play up the idea that being abandoned was her greatest fear and something she has been suppressing.
And frankly, it's really not a mystery that's worth spending 3 movies on. JJ should have answered that question in the first film. That another writer came in and took it in another direction is really his problem.
For real, I don't even know. Emotionally the movie feels about as deep as a puddle; the only thing complex about it is the pure logistical machinations of the McGuffin chase and which doodad they need to unlock the next stage of the puzzle.
Moreso since they never have Finn and Rose get intimate, even when there was a massive opportunity to do so in the finale.
But yeah, it's either this or he wanted to tell her he was force sensitive.
Can we talk about one of my favorite moments of the movie - when Hux reveals himself to be the spy? Thought his delivery on "I'm the spy!" was actually hilarious, and I then got excited at the prospect of seeing him interact with the heroes in a new, interesting way...
...then he is shot and killed the next scene and that's that.
...then he is shot and killed the next scene and that's that.
That Wedge cameo was lame as hell too, feels like something they put in a day before they sent the movie to cinemas.
Thinking more about Lando's role, would it really have been so hard for him to appear at the jungle base before they go on the mission. They could have had him be one of them people who returned to the fight after the Battle of Crait. The way he first appears is just so odd. He's LANDO not some redshirt.
Thinking more about Lando's role, would it really have been so hard for him to appear at the jungle base before they go on the mission. They could have had him be one of them people who returned to the fight after the Battle of Crait. The way he first appears is just so odd. He's LANDO not some redshirt.
It shows that even if you come from the blood of the most evil and dark person, You can still choose ultimately who *you* want to be.
While its iffy, It works for me overall.
they do a scene in the worm tunnel where poe says "BUT NOT WHILE I'M HERE HUH"
obv it was romance imo
No, Rey stole them in TLJ (seen on the falcon as well, when Finn is picking up a blankett from a storage compartment), which is why Yoda says something to the effect of "there's nothing in the library that Rey doesn't already posses" (cause she stole the books).
He was on screen for literally .2 seconds. And like a minute after his step son bit the big one.
Also - how/when exactly did Luke know that Rey was a Palpatine? Are we supposed to infer that he knew that the entire time he was training her in TLJ?
I think that was the implication, yes. He and Leia have known all along.
According to a novel, which seems to be canon so we have no reason to doubt it, Palpatine was born 84 years before the first Death Star blew up. Since the sequel trilogy takes place 34 years after that, it's probably safe to assume Palpatine's son or daughter (we don't know which) was born at most a few years before the events of A New Hope.
Which means that, yes, an 80-something Palpatine probably had sex with a woman about half his age or younger. Which isn't so unusual I s'pose given he was the Emperor and all that - he likely had several concubines.
It's just really, really gross to think about.
He's clearly force sensitive. He clearly hasn't told anyone, so you've got to imagine he has a reason.
Chewie "dies" and is shown to be alive minutes later with no impact
C3PO loses his memory but then gets it back with no impact
Kylo dies and is brought back to life, only to die again later
Rey dies but comes back to life
The only impactful death in the movie was the death of many's interest in the franchise
C3PO loses his memory but then gets it back with no impact
Kylo dies and is brought back to life, only to die again later
Rey dies but comes back to life
The only impactful death in the movie was the death of many's interest in the franchise
ah ok lol. i haven't watched it in a while. well, i watched as much as i could this morning. only got as far as Holdo firing herself into the ship before i had to leave to go see the movie.
yeah it was destroyed in TLJ. somehow it got fixed.
The real travesty in this series is never getting a green lightsaber which is the best color of lightsaber.
At least we didn't get another Leia death fake out given how well that worked out last time lol
I didn't get that vibe at all, he's very free with saying "I have a feeling" whenever he does, it's not like he tries to hide that.
The only thing he would want to tell rey but not poe is that he likes her
Best pilot in the Galaxy (arguably) and they shoved him a fucking gunners seat.
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