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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker novel explains the link between Luke's force projection, Leia's death, and the Knights of Ren's final fight
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There's absolutely nothing about a connection Luke and Leia in there, and the excerpt is pretty much describing what you can actually see in the movie. Clickbait.
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Lmao I'm blocked by that account for some reason. How tf I never reply to anything on twitter like there is zero way I could have been on that person's radar
If you need a book to explain the stuff you showed in a 2 hour movie, you've kind of failed both at making movies and books.
Also, that was just about the only obvious, well thought out part of the movie but I guess we can't have anyone not getting it.
Also, that was just about the only obvious, well thought out part of the movie but I guess we can't have anyone not getting it.
So is there going to be a Rise of Skywalker novel that goes into how Ben feels about his family? How Leia feels about her son? How Rey feels about Finn liking her but (apparently) not reciprocating.
Every time there is more information is about stupid shit like Sheev's reproduction process or some technicality about how force powers work or how fucking bad the other knights of ren were.
Nothing about the emotional states of it's characters and their relationships to each other.
Every time there is more information is about stupid shit like Sheev's reproduction process or some technicality about how force powers work or how fucking bad the other knights of ren were.
Nothing about the emotional states of it's characters and their relationships to each other.
Yeah, this was already explained entirely in the movies. Seemed like a naturally extension of their force bond becoming stronger from TLJ
For some reason people don't want to write articles about a book being a book. Like, even on the second page it's exactly as you're describing and then people take it and make a clickbait headline out of what is pretty much a book description of what's shown on screen spelled out in text form.
Screenrant in general is hella clickbait when it comes to SW
Can we stop making threads for every excerpt of the book?
Is it really a "need?" Books are always going to have extra material to give the reader a better idea on what's going on
Is it really a "need?" Books are always going to have extra material to give the reader a better idea on what's going on
You really want more clumsy text just straight up saying how everyone feels? God the writing in those two pages is atrocious.
The thing is we don't need a book to explain what was a really simple scene conceptually. Everything in that page is shown onscreen. This person just uploaded an excerpt and the writer made a clickbait article.
Books absolutely tend to describe how characters feel, it's all text, it quite literally has to be spelled out most of the time for the viewer to get a proper view of the scene compared to a film where it can be shown purely through visuals and why less exposition overall.
Well, no, I want it to actually be well written, obviously. But do I want it to be about the characters instead of this utter inanity about how force powers work or how Sheev clones himself? Yeah.
You're literally just saying that you want article writers and thread creators to actually talk about the content of the book instead of creating threads and articles about the excerpts that expand lore.... which is basically a complaint about the "x explained" culture we live unfortunately live in.
The lightsaber passing is like the one new thing in the whole film that worked, felt earned, and was actually pretty cool.
You know, the thing is, I'd be willing to give lots of leeway on this whole thing if the lore was actually any good.
Like, if you read the Stormlight Archives at all, the lore for that is really fascinating. The magic system is connected to people's emotional states and depending on what kind of broken person you are, you will get different kinds of bonds with different spirits, which give you different powers. And the time that the story takes place in, the magic had faded for a long time and is now coming back. And there is so much history and mysteriousness and intrigue with regards to the magic that is left to discover and figure out how different, disparate parts fit together. It's not like it's some cardinal sin for a story to have a complex, hard magic system where explication is not just desired, but interesting. The Stormlight magic system with it's magic swords and bonded spirits and physics bending powers is awesome to learn about.
But, like....Star Wars magic not only doesn't have many hard magic aspects to them, the stuff they are explaining isn't even complicated or interesting. Being a force dyad means they have a strong bond, which means they can transcend time and space and interact in ways that would otherwise be impossible, like handing things off to each other when they aren't next to each other. What do you need explained about that?
Exactly, SW is about the characters first and foremost, the force itself is at it's best when it's used a narrative device for their character development. And honestly I don't think this page is even attempting to explain how it works, it's explicitly an example of the force being used for characters first and foremost, lore second save for an offhand comment about Luke and Leia.
I don't really see the issue with it. It's probably hard to get the concept of what happened onscreen across in a book. I thought the author did a good job in translating the scene.
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So many missed opportunities for Kylo to interact with Chewie, Lando, R2, etc.
This didn't need explanation, he literally ripped her necklace off in the beginning of the film through the force connection, using to find out she was on Passana. Already showing the viewer they can physically hand objects to each other through the dyad.
Why is it everything needs to be explicitly explained these days? It feels like if Star Wars and Empire were released today, people would be demanding to know how Obi-Wan could communicate with Luke during the trench run, or how could he appear as a force ghost on Hoth...
Kylo actually interacts with Chewie in the novelization. You're trying too hard.
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Probably because they had to spend the first hour telling the story Episode VIII should have. 🤣
Ian it a flaw of the novel that it wasn't in the film?
"Should have"
Hey, Abrams had a plan for the trilogy. The only movie in that trilogy that doesn't follow it is the second one.
It's not something I hold against Johnson but, yes, Abrams making the first and third movies of a trilogy with no control or input on the second one is absolutely something that meant he had to do things in a certain way and I'm sure Rise of Skywalker would have been better with a preceding movie that actually built up to it.
You can't praise Johnson for refusing to compromise his vision, then hate on Abrams for refusing to either.
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This movie is worse than Attack of the Clones. That was dumb but it had a coherent story and lots of cool ship designs and music. George at least cared. Disney just don't give a fuck.
Also, the blue lightsaber was Anakin's. Luke built his own green saber. Why did they just ignore this and just always call it Luke's? Did Disney forget about Episode 6?
Also, the blue lightsaber was Anakin's. Luke built his own green saber. Why did they just ignore this and just always call it Luke's? Did Disney forget about Episode 6?
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Of course he did. He just wasn't going to direct the next two movies so the most anyone would've gotten is some suggestions. He wasn't under any obligation to develop them further. Except, obviously, he ended getting called back to do the third one and went back to the ideas he had when he was writing The Force Awakens. The only downside of which, as we know, is that Johnson did some things Abrams wouldn't have done or at least would have done differently, so he spends the first hour of Rise of Skywalker setting up plot lines for the rest of the movie.
Which he wouldn't have needed to do if Disney hadn't fucked up the production schedule of the trilogy and just let Abrams handle the trilogy himself.