It's a failure any way you slice it don't even finish the trilogy Disney would be stupid to continue
Max Katanas quote "It calls to you" LOL @this guy
I'm not sure what you're arguing, really. Are you trying to say that it's a failure by some standard? Nobody on earth would expect it to beat TFA. No one. What it has done, is by every measure, been a success.
No one said this was everyone who disliked the movie, we're saying the overwhelmingly bad user reviews, which don't match the CinemaScore polling (which is an A, same as TFA) or even this other scientifically conducted poll by SurveyMonkey (89% liked it) http://mashable.com/2017/12/20/last-jedi-poll/#JJBF1XXOmiqK
Oh sweety, you're right, she does say that, you got me! <3
See, this is a misunderstanding of that group's purpose. They are there to make sure that story's trend as close to canonically established rules as possible. Why possible? Because writers have the right to override canon based on if they want to make a cool thing happen. Someone earlier made a big stink about how Holdo's suicide run broke canon rules of hyperspace. I don't know or really care about that, but for what my word is worth, if Rian wanted to buck the rules of canon so he could have Holdo's sacrifice happen, that's fine by me.
It's built up to subvert (at least Johnson's way of doing it) the very ideas you assume would be continuing in this sequel. No special bloodline, former greats reduced to fragile people no more worthy of being looked up to than anyone else. The film takes you and Rey on that journey. You can't just "kill them off and move on".
No one in the resistance knew the specific reasons why Luke had left, only that he did, and that he, the legendary Luke Skywalker who defeated Darth Vader and the emperor and has a laser sword and mystical powers, was needed once again.
It doesn't ruin starwars, it just leaves more questions than answers. People don't like plots that don't explain missing pieces.
It's like you are completely ignoring the records it has broken to make your point. Hmmm. If you think for a second anyone at Disney is troubled by TLJ's legs going forward...well, I don't know what to say. Would they love it if it were stronger? Sure, as would every studio. You're acting like it's Justice League bad. It's cleared any hurdle Disney would have looked for, I assume.
Every single one of these is a spammable online poll that can be easily review bombed. This is like when Trump cites online polls to state his popularity because every poll that involves talking to a representative sample size of real people has him underwater.
Not all,but if you think TLJ is anywhere near as controversial as the RT user score implies, you are delusional. Sure, there's a fair chance that with manchildren removed, the user % would be noticeably lower than the critic one. But in a low 80s high 70s level at worst, not 50%.
What counts force ability and training? TFA and TLJ don't defy canon.
lol only if you dress as a jedi and recite holy jedi scipture at our nuptials and cut the cake with a lightsaber
The movie has been #1 every weekend since release. 2nd highest grossing SW movie. 2nd fastest movie to hit $500MM domestic ever. #1 movie of the last calendar year. #7 all-time domestic, nearly #20 all-time worldwide. near universal critical acclaim.
I agree with you that the steep, steep BO drop-off evinces some of the divisiveness we've seen online. A movie like this - the challenging, subversive middle-chapter - isn't going to do the same kind of repeat business that TFA did (even though TLJ benefits the most from multiple viewings). There are several factors in play, though, and I'm not sure that fan anxiety ranks especially high. This is the third Star Wars film in three years. It's been faced with actual competition in the form of Jumanji (yeah...) and rotten weather across large swathes of the US. The polarization is real, but it's impossible to estimate how much it impacted TLJ's performance. I'm not sure it's even worth discussing outside of the BO thread because, as you already illustrated, the film's performance has scarcely any bearing on its merit.
Maybe, but I think Disney saw that this was an opportunity to steer another way and that's why Johnson gets his own trilogy. Clear of what previous films did. If you get back to basics, as it were, it might be because JJ can fill that role, and it's somewhat needed to tie up the trilogy.
That it's the length it is might be a little bit of a factor, too.
that's such a dismissive way to look at it. You would have thought a movie like Justice League, with an assembly of some of the world's most popular and recognizable characters, would have been an indisputable box office smash. But here we are.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/12...t-jedi-and-its-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score
I'd agree if they didn't decide this before ever seeing a dime of TLJ money. They liked his vision. They at least clashed with Lord and Miller's. Their reasoning for canning his new trilogy would be absurd at this point, whatever it is. He's made them insane money...and it hasn't even hit China yet, right? It's got good scores overall, and it's a direction they must have agreed with, knowing how different it would be during production. I think they have as much faith in him as they do JJ.
