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Darcy

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You guys are still at it, impressive! :D

I think the box office results - compared to TFA, RO and other recent blockbusters - start to validate the Rotten Tomatoes/Metacritic audience reviews and the YT critical reviews, don't you all think?

I would say it is too soon to say that imo. Wait for Solo and IX to have a better idea for a benchmark. But considering that 8 had nearly as much hype as 7 in the fan base(according to KK), the result could be interpreted as a failure in that regard. SW is a truly unique beast in the film industry, I don't think you can truly compare it to Avengers 2 like some are doing.
 

Famassu

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You guys are still at it, impressive! :D

I think the box office results - compared to TFA, RO and other recent blockbusters - start to validate the Rotten Tomatoes/Metacritic audience reviews and the YT critical reviews, don't you all think?
Nothing validates those manchildren whiny baby overreactions and alt-right/nazi bigotry, sorry.
 

Inferno

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You guys are still at it, impressive! :D

I think the box office results - compared to TFA, RO and other recent blockbusters - start to validate the Rotten Tomatoes/Metacritic audience reviews and the YT critical reviews, don't you all think?

What about it's box office? It's already made 1 billion and isn't stopping anytime soon.
 

Mockerre

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I would say it is too soon to say that imo. Wait for Solo and IX to have a better idea for a benchmark. But considering that 8 had nearly as much hype as 7 in the fan base(according to KK), the result could be interpreted as a failure in that regard. SW is a truly unique beast in the film industry, I don't think you can truly compare it to Avengers 2 like some are doing.

Well, the annulalization of the SW franchise, for better or worse, makes SW less special. Anyway, I don't think we'll have to wait for IX to find out. And Solo won't really be a benchmark, for it may well fail of its own accord - the troubled development, the rumors from the set, the 'insider' take from last week, not being a mainline title, launching close to Avengers, everything suggests it will underperform.
 

TheXbox

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Dang, it really says something to how pointless and boring that whole section was that it felt like way longer imo.
Pointless? No. Boring? Eh. It's a weird touristy subplot, but I enjoy it for what it is. The tone, the music, and the camera movement hearken back to late 80s/early 90s Spielberg; goofy, frantic, light-hearted adventure tinged with childlike sentimentality (literally a bunch of a sad kids). It also reminds me of Lucas's inventiveness during the prequel-era, minus the shoddy directing and feeble dialogue.

Obviously, ymmv. Canto Bight is a video game sidequest in cinematic form, and the tone kinda-sorta clashes with the epic gravitas of the rest of the film. It's messy and it's weird, but I like it.
 

Veelk

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If you quoted the rest of my post you would see what I meant by moral. Talking about Lucasfilm by the way.
Yes. Especially since there is nothing 'immoral' about fanfiction. Nor does a continuity error make something fanfiction. All canon actually means is that the liscence holder is saying that this is what happened next in their version of the storyline.

So yeah, my response to you is basically what I wrote earlier.

The fuck
 

CampFreddie

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Did you watch clone wars which is cannon? The crystal bonds with you.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gathering_(episode)

Kyber crystals were most notably found in Ilum's Crystal Caves. They were a critical component in the construction of lightsabers, focusing energy into the weapon's distinct plasma blade. The crystals shared a special relationship with the Jedi for tens of thousands of years, and welcomed them to hear their song and learn their lessons.[6]Jedi younglings traveled to the ice caves to harvest their own crystals, which they then used to build their lightsabers. The Force guided their selection, finding a crystal that matched them as Jedi. To those not meant to receive it, the crystal was cold to the touch, however those the crystal chose would hear its "music" and "harmony," becoming attracted to it.[6

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kyber_crystal

It is of course ridiculous and "non-canon" to think that a crystal would bond to Rey when it had only previously bonded with two teenagers who were incredibly strong in the force, who had no formal training until relatively old, who were raised with missing parents and who spent their teenage years struggling to discover their place in the universe.
/s

TFA was unclear on purpose to raise the suspence and create a mystery - but the resolution of that mystery into Rey having to deal with the fact that she's alone is a much better and more powerful message than linking her to the Skywalkers, Obi-wan sowing some wild oats, midichlorian genetics or whatever.
 

Inferno

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It is quite literally stopping almost twice as fast as TFA.
Isn't that a bit of a faulty comparison? TFA was the first Star Wars film in over a decade. TLJ isn't. The middle-chapters typically dip for Star Wars as well. ESB made less than ANH or RotJ, and AotC made less than TPM or RotS.

TLJ is already the third highest-grossing film in the franchise. It's easily going to become the second. It also has a serious shot at 2nd or 3rd all-time domestic. There's literally no way to paint that as a failure.
 

Jessmo24

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The crystal chooses you when you build your own saber. The crystal doesn't matter at all, if a saber is passed down to you.

Well that would be the case if:

A. The crystal had never been in the hands of a chosen one.
B. The crystal wouldn't have shown her visions of its history.
C. The Crystal wouldn't have called to her.
D. She wouldn't need the crystal to forge another lightsaber and complete her Jedi training.

She can't forge a new saber without bonding with it. Unless she goes full sith and bends it to her will.

P.S. save this post, I'm going nuts if she makes a DM like saber staff.
 

Deleted member 11039

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Pointless? No. Boring? Eh. It's a weird touristy subplot, but I enjoy it for what it is. The tone, the music, and the camera movement hearken back to late 80s/early 90s Spielberg; goofy, frantic, light-hearted adventure tinged with childlike sentimentality (literally a bunch of a sad kids). It also reminds me of Lucas's inventiveness during the prequel-era, minus the shoddy directing and feeble dialogue.

Obviously, ymmv. Canto Bight is a video game sidequest in cinematic form, and the tone kinda-sorta clashes with the epic gravitas of the rest of the film. It's messy and it's weird, but I like it.

Weird. "Inventiveness" is one of the last words I'd use for Canto Bight.

Aside from the lack of chemistry between Finn and Rose, I think my biggest hang up with CB was just how unimaginative it felt. It seemed like a place I could drive to not some cool alien casino somewhere in a galaxy far far away.
 

Alice

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Well that would be the case if:

A. The crystal had never been in the hands of a chosen one.
B. The crystal wouldn't have shown her visions of its history.
C. The Crystal wouldn't have called to her.
D. She wouldn't need the crystal to forge another lightsaber and complete her Jedi training.

She can't forge a new saber without bonding with it. Unless she goes full sith and bends it to her will.

P.S. save this post, I'm going nuts if she makes a DM like saber staff.

A. Fanfiction.
B. Nothing says the crystal did this.
C. See above.
D. The Crystal had already been part of a saber. Nothing in canon says the Crystal reverts to a blank slate after it has been used once.
 

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TFA was unclear on purpose to raise the suspence and create a mystery - but the resolution of that mystery into Rey having to deal with the fact that she's alone is a much better and more powerful message than linking her to the Skywalkers, Obi-wan sowing some wild oats, midichlorian genetics or whatever.

Eh it still feels like there's a lot "midichlorian genetics" type goofiness going on here with the universe magically bestowing on her the power she needs to balance Kylo or whatever.

It really feels like it undercuts her character.
 

Darcy

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Not explaining Rey's "bond" with a lightsaber cystal as it relates to her parentage is not an inconsistency lol. I may be dismissive of the lightsaber "lore" cause I personally dgaf but that doesn't mean it isn't meaningful to the fans who care about such things. Nothing about it suggests that her parents have to be related to famous characters from the OT, that's the point.

I mean, in fairness I think Pablo and the Lucasfilm SG genuinely want it all to more or less work as one cohesive world; that doesn't mean that it's a failing of the movie if it doesn't write complex rules or backstory relating to fluff content into the main film's story.

You said the movie had no obligation to take this lore into account because it was out-of-the-movie. I was reacting to this idea, not the Rey thing in particular.

The SG sole purpose is ensuring the coherence of the rebooted SW universe, something that lacked in the EU, and something they were keen to promote explicitly when it suited them. The movie potentially not respecting LF SW Canon is not a failing of the movie in itself, I agree, but it is the failure of the SG and subsequently a failing in a said SW movie.
 

Famassu

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the tone kinda-sorta clashes with the epic gravitas of the rest of the film. It's messy and it's weird, but I like it.
I still think that's fully intentional and it's what makes it work. The tonal and pacing difference. On one hand we have this immediate doom & gloom of the chase of the last of the resistance, on the other we have a leisurely place of the people who have probably built and profited from building those very ships where the two protagonists face setbacks they really don't have time for.
 

Mockerre

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Wasn't a drop expected? It's happened with every second movie in the franchise. Plus it will still probably end up being the second highest grossing movie in the saga regardless. That's insane!

Isn't that a bit of a faulty comparison? TFA was the first Star Wars film in over a decade. TLJ isn't. The middle-chapters typically dip for Star Wars as well. ESB made less than ANH or RotJ, and AotC made less than TPM or RotS.

TLJ is already the third highest-grossing film in the franchise. It's easily going to become the second. It also has a serious shot at 2nd or 3rd all-time domestic. There's literally no way to paint that as a failure.

There's never a 1:1 comparison, we're dealing with the numbers we've got. You mentioned ESB underperforming after ANH - and ESB is the one more revered. You mentioned AOTC performing lower than TPM - and it is in fact the worse SW film to date.

With your logic, saying TLJ is the third highest-grossing film is also untrue, because you don't account for inflation. But I'm being cheeky.

The fact is, TLJ is losing audiences at an alarming rate. It's losing more than RO and this should tell you something. Couple that with the fan backlash... you need to willingly avert your gaze to not see the movie is highly divisive among the general audience.

This tells nothing about the quality of the movie, of course. In a few years it might be held as high as ESB, or, as others think, despised like AOTC. But trying to steer the conversation in such a way that it's business as usual? That is being dishonest.
 

TheXbox

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Weird. "Inventiveness" is one of the last words I'd use for Canto Bight.

Aside from the lack of chemistry between Finn and Rose, I think my biggest hang up with CB was just how unimaginative it felt. It seemed like a place I could drive to not some cool alien casino somewhere in a galaxy far far away.
You think Lucas would have hesitated over a casino after Dexter Jettster's space diner? The series has alluded to/depicted card games and gambling many, many times. I liked seeing how they translated modern casino fixtures into Star Wars. It's strange and space-age, but still evocative of reality -- which has always been what Star Wars is (or at least what Lucas was into).
 

Orb

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You guys are still at it, impressive! :D

I think the box office results - compared to TFA, RO and other recent blockbusters - start to validate the Rotten Tomatoes/Metacritic audience reviews and the YT critical reviews, don't you all think?
This movie has made a billion dollars.

I saw this movie in a sold out theater yesterday, 3 weeks after release. What is this "alarming" bullshit?
 

Ether_Snake

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I still think TFA would have benefited so much from having Maz removed, and use Leia instead to do the equivalent.

Have the FO landing on the catina's planet and starting the battle, as in the movie, as a result of BB8 having been spotted by someone. Have the whole battle play out, but including Rey in it. The resistance arrives and Leia goes into battle, some banter with Han as they reunite during the conflict. When she gets her blaster shot out of her hands, she takes out the light saber she had to her belt, blocks a few lasers, nothing too fancy, it's more of a keepsake and a last resort weapon. Eventually the conflict ends. During the night, Leia and Rey talk, and that's when Rey touches the light saber as Leia hands it to her. Cue the vision, Rey running away, gets captured by Kylo.

I think this small change would have been such an improvement, building a stronger relationship between Rey and Leia and how both can relate to the saber/force's significance as well as Leia not having known her parents, a more intuitive reason as to why the saber would be there at all, and no dumb Maz CG alien who was there just to forcefully dump expository dialogue. Can't believe they got Lupita Nyong'o to play such a lousy character.

Heck, I can't help but think this was originally the plan and was changed for whatever dumb reason.
 
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Inferno

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There's never a 1:1 comparison, we've dealing with the numbers we've got. You mentioned ESB underperforming after ANH - and ESB is the one more revered. You mentioned AOTC performing lower than TPM - and it is in fact the worse SW film to date.

With your logic, saying TLJ is the third highest-grossing film is also untrue, because you don't account for inflation. But I'm being cheeky.

The fact is, TLJ is losing audiences at an alarming rate. It's losing more than RO and this should tell you something. Couple that with the fan backlash... you need to willingly avert your gaze to not see the movie is highly devisive among the general audience.

This tells nothing about the quality of the movie, of course. In a few years it might be held as high as ESB, or, as others think, despised like AOTC. But trying to steer the conversation in such a way that it's business as usual? That is being dishonest.

It literally IS business as usual. You're the one that is attempting to retroactively apply years-later appraisals to ESB and AotC to suit your narrative. ESB had a mixed reaction when it came out, actually. AotC was also largely considered an improvement on TPM at the time that it came out, actually.

You're right that it tells you nothing about the quality of the movie, because it is business as usual.

The mere idea of trying to argue that a $1 billion film is a disappointment in any way is laughable.
 

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You think Lucas would have hesitated over a casino after Dexter Jettster's space diner? The series has alluded to/depicted card games and gambling many, many times. I liked seeing how they translated modern casino fixtures into Star Wars. It's strange and space-age, but still evocative of reality -- which has always been what Star Wars is (or at least what Lucas was into).

I don't know what Lucas would like or not. It really doesn't factor into my opinions.

And that dumb diner is a great comparison. Neither felt strange or space age really. They felt like earth.
 

MollyMillions

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Well that would be the case if:

A. The crystal had never been in the hands of a chosen one.
B. The crystal wouldn't have shown her visions of its history.
C. The Crystal wouldn't have called to her.
D. She wouldn't need the crystal to forge another lightsaber and complete her Jedi training.

She can't forge a new saber without bonding with it. Unless she goes full sith and bends it to her will.

P.S. save this post, I'm going nuts if she makes a DM like saber staff.
This shit is cute af
 

Mockerre

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It literally IS business as usual. You're the one that is attempting to retroactively apply years-later appraisals to ESB and AotC to suit your narrative. ESB had a mixed reaction when it came out, actually. AotC was also largely considered an improvement on TPM at the time that it came out, actually.

You're right that it tells you nothing about the quality of the movie, because it is business as usual.

The mere idea of trying to argue that a $1 billion film is a disappointment in any way is laughable.

Yes, I said the exact same thing. Have you read my post?
 

Crossing Eden

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*Completely writes a character out of the film for the sake of fanfiction as well as an entire sequence of events.*
"This is a small change."

:|

The emotional punch behind seeing Han searching for Leia after a battle and the pause when they finally see each other is worth so much more than seeing old Leia use a lightsaber for no reason.
 
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Inferno

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I don't know what Lucas would like or not. It really doesn't factor into my opinions.

And that dumb diner is a great comparison. Neither felt strange or space age really. They felt like earth.

The aesthetic of Star Wars has never been "space-age." It's always been lived-in. That's what people like about Star Wars, that's what drew people to Star Wars.

In fact, Canto Bite's aesthetic fits in much better with what we consider to be a "space age" aesthetic than nearly anything in the OT:

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MollyMillions

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You said the movie had no obligation to take this lore into account because it was out-of-the-movie. I was reacting to this idea, not the Rey thing in particular.

The SG sole purpose is ensuring the coherence of the rebooted SW universe, something that lacked in the EU, and something they were keen to promote explicitly when it suited them. The movie potentially not respecting LF SW Canon is not a failing of the movie in itself, I agree, but it is the failure of the SG and subsequently a failing in a said SW movie.
Except you just agreed that nothing we've discussed violates the Sacred Rules of Canon, right? So you're complaining about POTENTIAL violations in the future? Is this Nerd Minority Report?
 

Joeytj

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Yes. Especially since there is nothing 'immoral' about fanfiction. Nor does a continuity error make something fanfiction. All canon actually means is that the liscence holder is saying that this is what happened next in their version of the storyline.

So yeah, my response to you is basically what I wrote earlier.

The fuck

Uhh, I remember you arguing this back in the old forum's Korra thread. You're consistent :p
 

Meows

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It's weird reading so many complaints about Poe's development in this. I thought they did good things with his characterization (yes.. the actual plot with him and Holdo may be a bit iffy in comparison) considering he had maybe, like, five to ten minutes of screen time in The Force Awakens. They added flaws to his strengths (his instinctively quick call to action and his focus as a fighter but not so much focus as a leader) and made him come off as an all around better character imho.
 

Darcy

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Yes. Especially since there is nothing 'immoral' about fanfiction. Nor does a continuity error make something fanfiction. All canon actually means is that the liscence holder is saying that this is what happened next in their version of the storyline.

So yeah, my response to you is basically what I wrote earlier.

The fuck

I did not say there was anything immoral in fan fiction. What i said was immoral is the marketing around canon: beyond the licensing there is the notion that they are explicitly selling it as pertinent and valid in the official SW universe. What I find immoral or dishonest (if you find the word too strong), is them claiming it is coherent when it suits them and trashing people for expecting it to be when it is not.

Well, the annulalization of the SW franchise, for better or worse, makes SW less special. Anyway, I don't think we'll have to wait for IX to find out. And Solo won't really be a benchmark, for it may well fail of its own accord - the troubled development, the rumors from the set, the 'insider' take from last week, not being a mainline title, launching close to Avengers, everything suggests it will underperform.

Solo performance would be the first indicator to see how SW is faring post ep 8. If a spin-off about one of the core character of SW is over performed by RO, it would be bad. I mean RO went through the same process, rumors...
 

Famassu

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Eh it still feels like there's a lot "midichlorian genetics" type goofiness going on here with the universe magically bestowing on her the power she needs to balance Kylo or whatever.

It really feels like it undercuts her character.
I wonder if that is just some dumb Jedi/Sith religious mumbo jumbo. A self fulfilling prophecy, in a way. When there's evil in the world, there will always be good people rising against it. Doesn't actually have to be the Force actively creating two equal counter forces to battle against each other, just how things naturally progress in these types of situations.
 

Ether_Snake

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*Completely writes a character out of the film for the sake of fanfiction as well as an entire sequence of events.*
"This is a small change."

:|

The emotional punch behind seeing Han searching for Leia and the pause when they finally see each other is worth so much more than seeing old Leia use a lightsaber for no reason.

It has nothing to do with Leia using the saber for no reason, just to introduce her having it. Hell it still works if she doesn't use it at all. Rey and Leia had far more reasons to have the scene Maz had, it writes itself. Both didn't know their actual parents, are force-sensitive, etc. Maz was a waste of a good scene between Rey and Leia.
 

Meows

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Everyone's trying to figure out Snoke's backstory and I'm here still trying to figure out how Maz got Luke's lightsaber after it (and hand) went tumbling into the clouds of Bespin.

I'm sure there's a fun story there! Somewhere..
 

TheXbox

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I don't know what Lucas would like or not. It really doesn't factor into my opinions.

And that dumb diner is a great comparison. Neither felt strange or space age really. They felt like earth.
That's fine. You questioned "inventiveness" as a descriptor, which I meant in the very Lucas fashion of riffing on the real world for locations in Star Wars. See the cantina, Endor, Theed, the Coruscant underworld, etc.. I think it's pretty obvious what Lucas likes based on the precedent he set. Canto Bight fits right alongside them (and it even evokes Lucas's willingness to employ CGI, and to employ it quite liberally, where his ambition outran what practical effects were capable of).

You don't have to like it, but I wonder why you think it's less fantastical or 'Star Wars' than those other examples I mentioned (Dexter's diner being the most egregious).
 

Jessmo24

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A. Fanfiction.
B. Nothing says the crystal did this.
C. See above.
D. The Crystal had already been part of a saber. Nothing in canon says the Crystal reverts to a blank slate after it has been used once.

It's not fan fiction. If your going to be in this discussion at least know your Star wars basics. One of the last portions of your Jedi training is forging your light saber. You have to be crystal attuned to accomplish this. Luke had to go back to Obi wons home to figure out how to synthesize a crystal.


If Rey isn't attuned to the,Crystal she won't be able to reforge it.
 

Orb

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man I thought these threads were bad when we were rehashing Mary Sue arguments from TFA

we've reached a whole new level
 

Alice

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It's not fan fiction. If your going to be in this discussion at least know your Star wars basics. One of the last portions of your Jedi training is forging your light saber. You have to be crystal attuned to accomplish this. Luke had to go back to Obi wons home to figure out how to synthesize a crystal.


If Rey isn't attuned to the,Crystal she won't be able to reforge it.


The bit about the chosen one IS fanfiction. And all the things you cite about attuning to a crystal is about attuning to a FRESH crystal. Don't patronize me about Star Wars lore if you can't get it right.


No, it isn't.

PS I loved your Forbes articles

Haha ouch.
 

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That "feeling like Earth" isn't a good criticism of a Star Wars location, when that's what nearly every location in the OT did, and is a big reason that people fell for the universe.

"Space age" wasn't my word it was the poster I responded too.

Lived-in and believability/familiarity are different than something feeling exactly like Earth. Jabbas palace didn't feel like Earth. Canto Bite does.
 

Ether_Snake

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WHat's the thematic purpose behind Leia, a character who has a specific purpose already, having a lightsaber?

As opposed to Maz, a nobody made up to fill in a hole in the script? It's her brother's weapon, which was her father's before her, and the movie has Maz pass over the saber to Rey in an awkward why-does-she-have-that and who-the-fuck-is-she moment that would have better served the development of both Rey and Leia's characters, and establish a better relationship than the "Yeah go find my brother, girl I don't know.", and the plot as a whole if it was Leia who had it and Maz was removed.
 

Veelk

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Uhh, I remember you arguing this back in the old forum's Korra thread. You're consistent :p
That was a different argument. I am of the opinion that the difference from fanfiction should not be considered meaningful as the only actual difference we're talking about here is difference of publication.

But this guy is arguing that fanfiction has a morality element to it. Which is just baffling to me. I've heard plenty of people think fanfiction sucks and defend the sanctity of canon it isn't anymore more than a legal footnote, but I've never heard of someone saying it has a moral dimension.

I did not say there was anything immoral in fan fiction. What i said was immoral is the marketing around canon: beyond the licensing there is the notion that they are explicitly selling it as pertinent and valid in the official SW universe. What I find immoral or dishonest (if you find the word too strong), is them claiming it is coherent when it suits them and trashing people for expecting it to be when it is not
You're misunderstanding what canon means then. It does not mean "consistent with existing work". It means "Recognized by Disney as the official storyline." They could break literally every established rule, mischaracterize all they want say have lightsabers operate differently, whatever, but would remain canon because all canon is is the liscense holder saying "Yeah, this is the canon"

So this isn't dishonest marketing, it's just you not liking them breaking the rules.
 

Mockerre

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Solo performance would be the first indicator to see how SW is faring post ep 8. If a spin-off about one of the core character of SW is over performed by RO, it would be bad. I mean RO went through the same process, rumors...

RO started from lower box office numbers - as a spin-off with no-names is expected to - yet had higher audience retention.

Moreover, TLJ is estimated to have earned less on 01.01.18 than RO on 01.01.17 OR 02.01.17, in the same number of days.

No, it isn't.

PS I loved your Forbes articles

See above. And thank you, we get paid by the click, you know.
 

Alice

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"Space age" wasn't my word it was the poster I responded too.

Lived-in and believability/familiarity are different than something feeling like Earth. Jabbas palace didn't feel like Earth. Canto Bite does.

Mos Eisley is just a smaller city in Tunesia or Morocco. Canto Bight is Monacco, both of them "feel like Earth", you're being dishonest.