#CheckmateAtheists
Go to a Marvel thread... you'll see the same shit....
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi |OT3| The War is Just Beginning (Unmarked Spoilers)
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#CheckmateAtheists
Go to a Marvel thread... you'll see the same shit....
Regardless, I don't have anything to really say for the "general consensus". In fact, I'm not sure what you were even implying by your original statement then. Because 'the general consensus' doesn't buy Anakin's fall, that means I can't buy Luke's missteps?
You misunderstand. I'm not asking for you to legitimize yourself to me. I'm asking you because I want look at your portfolio, see how you've structured your stories, etc. I don't think I'll like much of what you got, but I could be wrong. In my experience, the art of critiquing stories and the art of writing stories are different skill sets and I've met writers who I think I don't like how they talk about stories but end up liking their work.
Even if I end up liking your work, it won't change my opinion that your criticisms of TLJ are very poor, but it'd be interesting to see.
No I'm not crazy, apparently:
This shot looks like it came from Eraserhead almost
lol it's probably from the world's shittiest cam rip but it was all I could find to illustrate what the hell I was talking about....
Maybe it was the Matrix like dodging? I was disappointed that they didn't cross swords. That's the one thing I look forward to in all SW films and they didn't have it. But I guess they wanted to go "in another direction."
If you go with the Force Projection you can't really cross swords, tbh. Even if he was physically there, he wouldn't have a sword with him.
No movie moment all year took me out of the movie as much as this one
I was trying to say what I said below that intro, re: we needed to see things, not be told things. We were told Ben was bad and Luke hesitated and that's what those flashbacks amounted to. That's why people don't buy it, because it goes against everything they've seen in the OT and the overall message of that trilogy. If you want to subvert that, you need to work harder than just flip it and call it a day.
Well, there's a chance you've played a game I've written for by now. But this is neither the time or place for this conversation. I did ask to be verafied, so that will be coming, I guess.
Her backstory is that she was raised by junkies and then abandoned in BFN at a very young age.
It makes no damn sense for her to be a Girl Scout.
So now Rey is a bad character because in-spite of a shitty life she's a good person?
A jug of green breast milk a day keeps the space doctor away!
Luke not only considered killing his own father instead of saving him, he went so far as to viciously attack his own father, who was defenseless at that point, and cut off his hand before he thought better of it and decided not to kill dad. Luke was actually doing much better by his nephew.
That scene isn't just Luke drinking, it's also the alien leaning back getting it's titty squeezed and then looking at Rey like "sup?"
Luke's footwork and dodging looked pretty wuxia/Kung fu inspired, but that's the wrong kind of Asian.
Hmmm ok I have pondered, and I am wrong for sure. It was expectations for where the storyline was going (or where I thought it should go), which is obviously wrong now.
There were great ideas in this movie. I just didn't think the writing was all that great in TLJ, and I guess I'll just leave it at that.
???
Discussion is more interesting than "I think the movie speaks for itself, it's ______"
I am having flashbacks from the prequels. Yes, people defended them back them
Except plenty of people do buy it, people like me. But I can't speak for other people, only myself. So you're talking about this as if you're the authority on it, when you have loads of people disagreeing you to your face in this thread. So you're acting like "People" can be generalized into feeling your way, but the feelings regarding whether Luke's mistake worked are split among the general consensus at best.
Look, I'll just end it here. When you feel like discussing MY arguments, reply to me then, not before.
The verification is not necessary, man. I don't disbelieve you when you say that you've written all this stuff. I take your word for it that it is true because it's not something that would legitimize your arguments to me in the first place. I'm literally just asking because I want to look at what you've written.
If you don't want to provide that information for me, that's fine, but a mod coming in to tell me "Yup, he's really written for games and stuff" doesn't accomplish anything because I don't disbelieve you about that in the first place.
They say in the artbook that they wanted to design the sea cows like they were a man on a couch drinking a beer. They did a good job on that, lol.
People turn out all sorts of ways when raised by abusive people. The abuse never really leaves. But the abused can channel their energy if they're lucky and have a strong will.
I know. What I mean is there was no sword crossing at all in this film other than with the pseudo electro weapons that deflect a light sabre.
Also, the scene would have carried more weight if Luke was physically there to have that epic scene. I was hoping Luke would would intentionally let his guard down a-la Obi-wan. Whatever.
He has to build up the resistance again. He can write it into the opening crawl, make it a major point of IX or kind of do a combination or cheese it through a time jump--but I don't think it's a great place to be in the third film of a trilogy.Remember that nobody came to Leia's defense. So Luke having some last stand that all of 12 people witnessed changes that? Based on the final shot, the story is spreading and hope is back, but if you skip past the nitty gritty of building the resistance up, one of the biggest criticisms of the trilogy will be how it seemed to just awkwardly explain and ignore major aspects of the universe/story. Personally, I don't think JJ is going to bother and will probably just fast forward, because it's just too much to develop over the course of a film that should be ending the conflict between TFO and the resistance.
They could make her basically good and that would be fine. But the way they went with her... yeah, she's a bad character and has been since the jump.
Was Luke's milk this same stuff he grew up drinking?
Everyone seems to be implying that. But how does one harvest that milk from an animal that is supposedly on a planet remote enough that Luke exiles himself at.
What? So because she's optimistic even though she's been through hell... that makes her a bad character...
Was Luke's milk this same stuff he grew up drinking?
It's not the same milk. That milk is native from Tatooine.
Most people who are abused have lives outside of the abuse, or did before, or do after. She has no reference for anything good.
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So because I'm engaging with people like you it's proof that its bad?
I like to think that when Luke went into exile he decided to Noah's ark 2 of those manatees onto his X-wing cause he knows he gonna want some of that unpasteurized green milk to remind him of home.
Oh i know. But a lot of people on SM seem to be drawing a link between the two. When you know they're not even closely related other than colour and texture.
I never said anything even remotely implying that, I asked you a question about your response to Tarot
Ok, thank you for answering my question
This exactly
Much like we are told we must let the past die, but we are treated to a film where the only hero who does anything effective is one of the old heroes. There were a million-and-one ways for a story to be written that shows us the old need to rest and the new can be trusted to take over. Instead, most of our new heroes do menial tasks throughout the movie
Much like we are told that the war is funded on both sides by rich arms dealers, but we are not shown in any way that affects the actual movie or should make us care. This could've been a plot, I guess, where the Resistance discovers a supplier is double dealing on Canto Bright, or determines their own hyperspace tracking tech has somehow been co-opted by the FO, or something. If it's really important to this movie, show us that it is important, don't tell us
Much like we are told we need save what we love, not fight what we hate, by a character who prevents Finn from doing exactly that, as the doors keeping her friends safe are destroyed behind her
These are the tip of the iceberg. The movie constantly tells us things, but shows us very little. Very little is built up. I think it's the foundation of most of my complaints
It's actually very similar to the prequels in that respect. The prequels were chastised for favoring exposition over action. TLJ seems to get a pass because the dialogue is more organic, but it doesn't change the fact that the story and themes are just as clunky
Honestly with the milk I think the color and texture changes are due to pasteurization. I think the Jedi midichlorians are a product of metabolic processes that rely on phospholipids or enzymes found exclusively in the blue milk. This is a big reason why the Jedi started their order on a planet rich with milk-producing life forms. As a teen, Luke's unusual midichlorian counts probably led to cravings for the milk, so Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen had to get him whatever weak, pasteurized version of it was available on Tatooine.
It's all canon, trust me.
It's all canon, trust me.
My point with the critics didn't was that unlike the PT this reviewed quite strongly with critics so making this out to be just like the PT all over again is nonsense.
This is blue, the Ach-to milk was more greenish. I'm on #teamdifferentmilkWas Luke's milk this same stuff he grew up drinking?
It's not even in the same league and I really can't even entertain comparisons to the prequels. I'll absolutely engage with legitimate criticisms of the new films, but comparisons to the prequels are mostly just disingenuous inflammation.
You can't write midichlorians without most of the letters on milk. You might be onto something.