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Star Wars: The Last Jedi |OT3| The War is Just Beginning (Unmarked Spoilers)
- Thread starter Bronx-Man
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It's not like Luke's mindset wasn't spelled out in TFA.
"Luke was training a new generation of Jedi. One boy, an apprentice, turned against him and destroyed it all. Luke felt responsible...he just...walked away from everything" - Han
They could not have made it clearer that Luke had lost hope in himself. Anyone expecting Luke to be an unblemished saviour figure was not paying attention.
"Luke was training a new generation of Jedi. One boy, an apprentice, turned against him and destroyed it all. Luke felt responsible...he just...walked away from everything" - Han
They could not have made it clearer that Luke had lost hope in himself. Anyone expecting Luke to be an unblemished saviour figure was not paying attention.
I feel exactly the same way, I don't know how you can be in awe of what Yoda did in ESB and dismiss what Luke did in TLJ
He showed up to the fight and showed you don't actually have to fight to win
Hey man, they built him up to be linchpin of the entire universe post RoTJ only to kill him ridiculously in TLJ. Anything is possible. He might have been having one big laugh as he blatantly telegraphed his own demise.
That's... exactly what he did. "He is TOO OLD! To begin the training!"
"Too much like his father!"
Lucas has stated and recent novels have confirmed that Yoda taught Leia would've been a better apprentice, since she didn't grow up like Anakin or Luke on Tatooine and too obsessed with "greatness".
I still dont understand, how did using astral projection kill luke?
Did he die of old age very coincidentally? Did he have a heart attack because of the stress?
What was the point of his "gotcha kylo" moment when he just ends up dying anyways? Regardless he becomes a force ghost.
I guess it would have been hard to get to Kratt but we know he had an X-Wing.
Did he die of old age very coincidentally? Did he have a heart attack because of the stress?
What was the point of his "gotcha kylo" moment when he just ends up dying anyways? Regardless he becomes a force ghost.
I guess it would have been hard to get to Kratt but we know he had an X-Wing.
I've now seen TLJ twice. I won't know for sure where it lands in my ranking until a year has passed and I can view the film without any recency bias, but here's what I've got:
1. A New Hope
2. The Empire Strikes Back
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3. The Force Awakens
4. The Last Jedi
5. Return of the Jedi
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6. Rogue One
7. Revenge of the Sith
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8. The Phantom Menace
9. Attack of the Clones
1. A New Hope
2. The Empire Strikes Back
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3. The Force Awakens
4. The Last Jedi
5. Return of the Jedi
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6. Rogue One
7. Revenge of the Sith
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8. The Phantom Menace
9. Attack of the Clones
I loved nearly everything involving Luke in this film, but this moment is the only thing that bugs me.
I agree it would have been much more powerful for me if he just dropped it.
Especially the first time I watched and just having watched TFA prior, going from Jedi steps to that moment was pretty jarring.
We're on OT3 now?
Good. I can reiterate the following statement:
The Last Jedi is amazing. It is the best since Empire and, for me personally, might just top it due to the bold choices and beautiful visuals of the second half. Snoke, the "mystery" of Rey's parents and the story of Luke Skywalker were all handled brilliantly.
Bring on Rian's trilogy.
Good. I can reiterate the following statement:
The Last Jedi is amazing. It is the best since Empire and, for me personally, might just top it due to the bold choices and beautiful visuals of the second half. Snoke, the "mystery" of Rey's parents and the story of Luke Skywalker were all handled brilliantly.
Bring on Rian's trilogy.
It was draining to perform the projection. Early in the movie when Kylo and Rey first "connect", Kylo says "you can't be doing this, the effort would kill you". Luke's projection was a thousand times more intense than the telepathic connection between those two.
It's not clear that's what killed him.
Alhought Kylo hints earlier during his first Force Time with Rey that he knows about the technique or theory behind the move, because he tells her it would be a potentially lethal thing for her to actually be there with him like that. "You're not doing this...No, that would kill you"
oh my goooood
that was he was reffering with "the effor will kll you"
mind blowwwwwwwwn
Yoda was classist and wanted a rich apprentice.
Just trying to get paid.
Agreed! But I felt we needed more info about snoke. Just 20 seconds! Like cut 20 seconds from the casino and just give us die hard fans a few lines. Like... He seized power after the Empire fell with help from allies in the unknown regions, seeking to become a new Palpatine. Instead we got... nothing. There are tons of details in the movie. His ring, the navigators, the view port, sith figures, etc. Oh well, I guess that's what books are for.
this is silly though, i didn't need books to be satisfied with the main players of the original movies, i shouldn't have to with this one
Lol, yeah, basically. Yoda thought that Leia would've been much more educated already and having grown up loved and without want, she wouldn't have had an obsession with being famous. And he knew Bail was a pacifist and would teach Leia that.
"Great warrior hu? Hmmm, wars do not make one great!"
I agree with this.
Yoda doesn't teach Luke because Luke is not really displaying the qualities he believes a student should have. Luke doesn't even interact with Rey, he just tells her to get lost.
"You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting."
Things we know for sure.
Snoke is dead
Rey's parents were normal people
I kinda figured Luke kept his green lightsaber in the cockpit somewhere in that xwing underwater.
Aren't the middle movies of trilogies supposed to leave the viewer with compelling questions that need to be answered in the final film?
Or was removing them what is passing for subverting my expectations these days?
Or was removing them what is passing for subverting my expectations these days?
You know how many people they'd piss off bringing him back?
lol, he's gone bruh.
because this trilogy cares so much about not pissing people off?
they literally turned a dramatic 2 year cliffhanger into a fucking gag
he's not coming back, fine, but that sure as shit aint the reason
The twist was that it wasnt a trilogy, just a 2 movie set. No nore star wars movies. Surprise!
You really think they'd waste a character with so much potential like that? I think hologram Snoke isn't throne room Snoke at all. It's all a ruse.
Who said so?
And this movie left us with Kylo being the leader, Rey being the last Jedi and the Resistance having the galaxy on their side again. We got some meaty hooks for IX, why exactly do they have to be mysteries?
He is. Which just puts into perspective how awful this new trilogy is, unfortunately.
That's some EU type stuff, man.
Snoke died to make Kylo Ren, the actual interesating villain, the center point of the conflict. Now going into IX Rey and Kylo have a rich relationship and she has to go up against him and not Snoke.
did anyone actually touch Snoke at any point in these movies? im calling astral projection
This. I wonder how many people actually listen to wht is said in the movie.
If the next Star Wars Films turn out as bad as or controversal as this one. I will stop caring about Star Wars.
not necessarily. The Two Towers I thought did something similar and it worked in their favor.
he's dead. There's not much else to say. He's for sure for sure dead
It's amazing seeing the loopholes people are trying to create so there is a scenario that Rey has a "proper" bloodline despite The Last Jedi literally spelling it out for us.
