Making Star Wars has said Filoni is working on a new animated show more along the lines of TCW in tone so I doubt there is an 8th TCW season.
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Definitely not happening since it was never beyond the planning and concept stage.
I don't know what you're talking about, Dave Filoni told plenty of original stories in TCW that added to the universe and weren't "backfill", many utilizing completely original characters like Ahsoka or Rex, or deepening existing characters who were barely more than set dressing like Plo Koon. Plus, even if you want to count Anakin's development in the series as backfill, it absolutely completely legitimized his character in a way the movies never did.
He was obviously hamstrung with Rebels in several significant ways, and he had almost nothing to do with Resistance past the idea for it.
At the end of the day, he was Lucas' protege, and the only one still at Lucasfilm who is allowed to have high creative involvement that seems interested in trying to take stories in this franchise in interesting directions.
I know. I'm not talking about an 8th season. I am talking about more episodes in the 7th. Ie, 4 - 8 more episodes (1 to 2 more arcs) on top of the 13 announced ones. It's unlikely, but perhaps possible. When they discontinued the series before, there was 9 different arcs partially completed (and more in planning). We were shown many of these half-finished arcs in the intervening years after it was cancelled and before it was announced as coming back. We know for a fact that 2 of the 3 arcs in the new season are two of those unfinished arcs (Bad Batch and Ahsoka in 1313), one of which they actually completely released in the state they got it to (Bad Batch) -- they also released another arc in the same state (Crystal Crisis on Utapau), but that one does not appear to be slated for remake.
The other unfinished arcs we have seen parts of include:
- Son of Dathomir (Which I would do anything to see animated -- it was released as a comic, but is incredibly integral to Darth Maul's story and would be a shame to have it trapped in that medium forever)
- Dark Disciple (Actually two arcs/8 episodes about Asaaj Ventress -- it was adapted into a novel)
- Cad Bane and Boba Fett Bounty Hunter Arc
- Kashyyk Arc
- Rex and R2 "Top Gun" Arc
- Yuuzhan Vong Arc
- Sith Temple under Coruscant Arc (it is suspected that parts of the ideas for this were repurposed for Rebels episodes)
- Second Bad Batch Arc
- Return to Mon Cala Arc
- Siege of Mandalore Arc (confirmed to always be the finale, and confirmed happening for the new season)
If you count it all up, if each of these arcs were 4 episodes, that is 48 more episodes that were planned to the end.
Season 6 was cut short at 13 instead of the normal 20ish. So this is pretty much everything else that was planned for the series.
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The stories just are not good, though. The entire depiction of Madalore was atrocious. Everything involving the bounty hunter crew was insufferable.
I didn't realize he was not involved with Resistance.
Nothing in the cartoons comes remotely close to taking the series in an interesting direction compared to what TLJ did, but only looking spin off material, the shows are consistently miles behind the comics.
Do you mind explaining yourself a bit here? I've already tried to incite some sort of discussion regarding these points each time but you always say, "baby bounty hunters" and then never reply again.
Filoni isn't involved with Resistance beyond coming up with the concept. If he was doing it, it would probably be way more focused on the racing since he had always wanted to make a show about pilots.
I can't really imagine Alexander Freed making a show targeted at kids, but I would certainly like more books from him.
Edit: As for Mandalore, if you dislike the pacifist angle, that's all George. Once Filoni got total control in Rebels he went all in on factions and warfare lol
Filoni does a lot of good but he has some annoying flaws. I love Ashoka too but the way the character was handled in Rebels annoyed me to death. If you didn't watch Clone Wars, you are basically fucked because Rebels does nothing to fill you in on who Ashoka is or most importantly why you should care about her. They introduce her at the end of season 1 as a major supporting character and then proceed to waste her throughout season 2 until the end where she finally gets to do something exciting. Then she leaves the show...only to pop up near the end and then bounce AGAIN. The show never really did anything with her. They wanted her to duel Vader and that's it. She's kind of a noncharacter.
And if you did watch Clone Wars, you would be disappointed that they wasted her. She has one moment, which is one of the best moments in SW history, but then preceded to sit on the bench for the rest of the series. Seriously, what purpose did she serve? In the grand scheme of things she was irrelevant but because Filoni loves the character she was shoehorned in.
When Filoni loves an idea, he loves to push it really hard to a detriment to the overall show at times. I'm glad Favreau is apparently helping him with his new show at least because we need more minds clashing in the creative process.
And if you did watch Clone Wars, you would be disappointed that they wasted her. She has one moment, which is one of the best moments in SW history, but then preceded to sit on the bench for the rest of the series. Seriously, what purpose did she serve? In the grand scheme of things she was irrelevant but because Filoni loves the character she was shoehorned in.
When Filoni loves an idea, he loves to push it really hard to a detriment to the overall show at times. I'm glad Favreau is apparently helping him with his new show at least because we need more minds clashing in the creative process.
Have to agree with this post here:
Also, TLJ is not at all an "interesting direction". I mean, sure, it claims to be (and I actually did enjoy the movie), but for everyone who complains how different it is... it really isn't. That moment where Rey and Kylo fight together the movie leads you to believe it will actually go in an interesting direction... but then instead it swerves back into the completely predictable normal one. That isn't interesting.
Anyways, I completely disagree with you on the Mandalore arc -- it took something stupid (bringing back Darth Maul) and made him into a fully realized character that was actually interesting. Additionally, it completely deepened Obi-Wan as a character in a way the movies never attempted to via his romance with Satine. These are positive effects on the franchise while simultaneously interesting directions that were taken. And that is just that one on-going arc.
Every time the show chose to focus on the clones it was similarly interesting. It executed Anakin's slow descent to the dark side in a much more believable way. And Ahsoka was a truly interesting and complex character, not to mention now a fan favorite.
Not all of TCW is gold, I think everyone who likes the series will agree with that, nothing plagued with "Jar Jar episodes" really can be. But there's so much good in this series that I fear will never be explored in a similar depth in the film series. TCW made the entire Star Wars franchise much much better.
lol it didn't last very long
wow that's a shit take
The movie or animated series?As a writer? Director of episodes? And what capacity does he have now? What I'm getting at here is I'd like to see him as a full showrunner on one of these animated series. Not Filoni
He voiced Pre Viszla, which got him interested in Mandalore, hence why he became attached to The Mandalorian as the showrunner.
Never seen it but as a general take I think its the wrong strategy for Lucas to tackle the thematically serious inbetween eras (clone wars, rebels and this) in the form of cartoons for little kids, it really waters down the experience. Im not advocating for grimdark stuff but it would be nice to see the artform be used for more than the Saturday morning cartoon format
I see Travis Fans are still getting angry their Mary sues (because that's what pre Clone Wars Mando's were like) were taken down a notch.
TCW isn't really for "little kids", although Resistance certainly is. Pablo Hidalgo said that TCW was losing children viewers but growing with adult viewers towards the end of it, and that's no surprise because it got so dark.
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Man, this is still so so good. How anyone can watch this clip and dismiss this show as "just for kids" (or even explicitly for kids) honestly boggles my mind. This moment is just as good as any given one you want to pick out of the movies -- hell I'd argue it's better than a lot of them. The character depth, writing, and shot composition are all great, not just "for a cartoon", but in general. It's an even more poignant moment with the knowledge of the entire story that came before, but even in isolation you can tell it's above and beyond a "saturday morning cartoon."
You know Favreau and Filoni are working together on both The Mandalorian AND the next animated show, right?
LF upcoming slate:
- The Mandalorian
- Cassian Andor show
- Live action series 3
- TCW series 7
- New animated show (filoni/favreau)
- IX
- Rian Johnson Trilogy
- D&D series of films
- Star Wars Resistance season 2
+ as a bonus SWJ: Fallen Order
Does that look like a dying franchise?
And 3/4 films were critically acclaimed and made over 1 bil.
but tell me more how TLJ destroyed your childhood
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Why does this show barely get mentioned?
Doesn't seem much interest in it compared to Clone Wars and Rebels.
Guessing that's why it's finishing already.
Doesn't seem much interest in it compared to Clone Wars and Rebels.
Guessing that's why it's finishing already.
Are we getting anything further on the Clone Wars/Rebels front?
Any other serious tv shows besides The Mandolorian?
Let me guess, you love the Expended universe and the Vong.
Yes he's come to 'save' a franchise that's made over 3 billion at the box office on 3 movies alone.
Nope, the EU and the NJO in particular was filled with grimdark garbage. The fact that Filoni intended to bring back the Vong in one of the unproduced arcs made me cringe.
The final televised season literally contained an entire arc that was conceived as a spin-off for pre-school kids, and episodes of that tone and style were present throughout the show's entire run. The pandering to small kids didn't end with "Stinky the Hutt."
And no number of videos of out of context violence really changes that fact. TCW was a tonally confused mess that is only ever really talked about because "Well it's dark, it's not for kids!" But the actual content of those stories, even the darker ones that people remember, are pitifully threadbare, and are often really bad, to the point of further damaging the source material. (Hey, did nobody on Naboo at least think to go poke the corpse of the suspected Sith Lord with a stick, just to make sure it stopped twitching? Because that's some "Bobby Ewing in Dallas" levels of trash storytelling.)
I don't know if you know but GL had some fingers in alot of the original run CW episodes.
Like his funding was the only reason it looked so good; meaning he got to make calls on alot of shit.
Like Mortis.
It's fascinating because, whenever the TCW's many weaknesses are pointed out, suddenly the Filoni worship gets tamped down and we are all underestimating just how many fingers GL had in the pie. It wasn't Filoni's gig, he made concessions to secure the budget etc.
Yet Rebels also had a lot of the same problems, particularly at its start. The only reason the tonal dissonance doesn't reach the same extremes is because the reigns were on tighter, so wasn't allowed to go as dark or visceral in its violence.
I mean, for me Rebels was tighter on themes then CW. I don't disagree that Filoni makes mistakes, but a lot of the "stupid" stuff was acutally GL.
Like focusing on fucking Jar Jar again. Or Mortis. Or those stupid droid episodes.
Or Mortis.
Star Wars doesn't need saving. Only ones who think that are those who believes the nonsense internet conspiracy theories that people didn't actually like TFA and TLJ despite you know the great reviews, great box office, great home video sales, and great audience tracking reviews.
Well you see Solo did bad so therefor Star Wars is doomed.
And Rey is a Mary Sue. Also I like Starkiller. Alot.
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I believe you, but usually by then you already lost a big part of the audience you might have had in the beginning.
One thing this show did right was introducing a decently sized cast of recurring characters. Having all the stories happen in one place so you are not throwing away disposable supporting characters every week, instead keeping them all as familiar faces, and seems like they will take advantage of that.
One more season of TCW. It's likely that at some point they'll do something about Ahsoka and Sabine searching for Ezra.
There's also a live action Cassian Andor show in the works and an untitled third show.
I forgot about this show and I was a big fan of TCW and Rebels.
I do like how they are using Iden Versio from BF 2 though. It's nice to see a character not thrown away after a game.
I do like how they are using Iden Versio from BF 2 though. It's nice to see a character not thrown away after a game.
I'm pretty sure Iden is dead by the time Season 2 takes place
My mistake. I thought this series took place before that. The character in the trailer looks like a teen version of her.
I wont disagree about the shift later but if anything it makes the show even more thematically inconsistent with its presentation, design and animations ... plus all the other issues (like characters forgetting theyre Jedi every five minutes, but thats OT)
Im not one of those guys. But i have wondered why is Lucasfilm fascinated with the era around New Hope and ROTJ? I was hoping for more stuff not related to what we've known.
While I get theres stuff on the horizon, which is good. My one issue with it was never how it made money, but the stories they were telling after TFA came out. Most of us want the franchise to push forward in a new big and bold way. Favreau has proven with that regard.
Im not really so much as referring to sales regarding Starwars. Im more on the story saving gesture. Because I have felt for a long time now that the franchise has been stuck stagnant when it comes to story direction. I just like the way Favreau directs and tell stories.
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The show definitely did have arcs that targeted younger among the arcs that targeted older. (But come on, pre-school kids? Even you know that's hyperbole). There's a reason those episode recommendation lists exist. That doesn't make TCW a bad show though, it makes it a flawed show, which is perfectly fine. The fact that the format of the show allowed for wildly different stories from arc to arc did give us a good handful of stinkers, but it also allowed them to do a wide variety of things that the movies are never going to attempt in a million years -- and most of those weren't stinkers at all.
The reason this happens is because while Filoni was very much the showrunner, whenever Lucas had an idea he wanted in the show, he still got to put it in. And pretty much everyone is aware of that. Not to say that Filoni doesn't have some weird tendencies as well (as seen in Rebels with stuff like the wolves), but he wasn't the primary cause of those more kid-targeting ideas.
Also, nothing in TCW is actually "dark". It's just more adult, and thus actually all-ages appealing. Nothing comes even close to approaching R-rated stuff. It's basically the same tone as the movies, the same tone the franchise in general should honestly have.
Rebels was explicitly for kids, and it was designed around that (barring the random "fanservice" for TCW Fans with the Ahsoka/Vader stuff -- which I think most would agree ended up being the best part of the show precisely because it wasn't the normal part and tone of the show). And Resistance panders to even younger kids even harder. That direction is the big mistake both of these shows made. It's not about being "Dark" or "Visceral. It's just about being able to tell meaningful stories with adult themes, especially set in a franchise about being at war.
So less of a cancelation and more like the resistance team is working on another project now.