Clone Wars was 100% worth it,
After this Rebels episode it is finally completely worth every filler, slow burn and bad element.
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Star Wars Rebels |OT| Counting down to a New Hope and the Last Jedi
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After this Rebels episode it is finally completely worth every filler, slow burn and bad element.
Rebels hits such heights when it wants to. These were cracking eps.
Shame that for 80% of the time its just a bit dull.
Shame that for 80% of the time its just a bit dull.
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Gonna let you in on a little secret here . . .
Filoni's Star Wars is the best Star Wars
What both shows? Btw i know nothing about any of this SW tv stuff. Is it canon?
All original 6 movies, The Clone Wars (the CGI cartoon that started in 2008 but not the 2D one done by Genndy Tartakovsky during the prequel era), and all comics/books/shows/movies since 2014 that aren't marked "Legends" are 100% canon in the Disney era.
You've got some catching up to do!
Being canon doesn't really mean that much, sadly. We're not going to be aeeing any if these characters pop up in the movies, outside of Rogue one style Easter egg cameos.
well i was already spoiled on the latest rebels episode since i clicked the thread before it had SPOILERS in the title.
Yes. It sucks, but it wasn't meant to be a movie - it's the first four episodes slapped together. They were still working the kinks out.
Does anyone have or made a list of the voices we heard in the temple:
I thought I heard Yoda, Qui-gon, Ahsoka, Old Obi-wan, young Obi-wan, Shmi, boy Anakin, Kanan...who else?
It certainly seemed like the voices were being used to tell a story to some degree. Especially when Ezra first arrives its very blatantly an explanation of what's going on.
There was also
Clone Wars Anakin, Kylo Ren, Vader, the Daughter, Chirrut
That would basically be the equivalent of
Ezra saving Kanan from his death.
No, not really.
Luke disappears after he's done with that, so it changes nothing, except that we won't get to see Force Ghost Luke harassing his nephew in IX.
This could have gone completely wrong, but (as always with Dave Filoni) it was executed very well. You can just see that a lot of thought was put into this, so that it does not "break" Star Wars in any way. Yes, it is possible to jump to several points in the timeline, but it's not like they have a DeLorean at their disposal now that makes time travel easy.
Also, keep in mind, Ezra did not change any events that had occurred. Ashoka had not died in season 2. She was shown alive at the end of the episode. And the reason for that was that Ezra had already rescued her in the future. So that gives me reason to believe that all events in the timeline in Star Wars are destined to happen and cannot be changed.
Also, now that the series is coming to an end, can we take a moment to appreciate how amazing it is that a TV show was able to bring back the original voice actors for so many characters of the OT? Think about it, we got C-3PO, Lando,Vader, Yoda, Palpatine... (I might be forgetting some). It's amazing that these people where willing to come in and reprise their roles, on a "kids" TV show of all places!
Also, keep in mind, Ezra did not change any events that had occurred. Ashoka had not died in season 2. She was shown alive at the end of the episode. And the reason for that was that Ezra had already rescued her in the future. So that gives me reason to believe that all events in the timeline in Star Wars are destined to happen and cannot be changed.
Also, now that the series is coming to an end, can we take a moment to appreciate how amazing it is that a TV show was able to bring back the original voice actors for so many characters of the OT? Think about it, we got C-3PO, Lando,Vader, Yoda, Palpatine... (I might be forgetting some). It's amazing that these people where willing to come in and reprise their roles, on a "kids" TV show of all places!
And he'd still die if you pulled him out of that moment. He dies of exhaustion from the effort of projecting himself.
Wait, people actually loved these episodes?
The show is coming to an end and basically the only development that took place is... Ezra realized the point that Kanan was making with his self-sacrifice THREE EPISODES AGO? Other than that, they just added a piece of lore that seems massive but does not really change anything and will most likely have zero repercussions in other shows/movies/etc.
The show is coming to an end and basically the only development that took place is... Ezra realized the point that Kanan was making with his self-sacrifice THREE EPISODES AGO? Other than that, they just added a piece of lore that seems massive but does not really change anything and will most likely have zero repercussions in other shows/movies/etc.
You know, I'm pretty sure Ahsoka is stranded at the Sith Temple Malachor. In the S2 finale, Maul had been stranded there with no ship for a long time. He got away by stealing Vader's ride, Vader presumably got a lift from Palp (because he knew Vader was there), and Kanan, Ezra and Chop left on the Phantom. I think Ahsoka is now stuck there, just like Maul was. Right?
Maybe now that Ezra knows she's there he can go get her? Although I guess he wouldn't know that's where her door went.
Maybe now that Ezra knows she's there he can go get her? Although I guess he wouldn't know that's where her door went.
Oh, that's right, the Inquisitors were there too... I always thought he took Vader's custom Tie, but maybe it was theirs, yeah. But if so, that means Vader simply left on his own, and she's still stuck. I guess?
There were 5 ships on the planet at the end. The Phantom, three inquisitor ties, and Vader's tie. Ezra and Kanan took the Phantom and Maul took an inquisitor tie. Vader either got a pick up or took his tie. That leaves at least two ships she could take.
EDIT: I agree with Breqesk though. More likely she took another portal.
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I found Ashoka's theory really interesting about Kanan's will continuing on and there being multiple ways for such a thing to manifest. Clearly hinting at the idea of a force ghost, but not a full measure, something smaller and more primitive. Just a small portion of him that hung around and dissipated once the job was done. Very interesting to see the concept of a force ghost develop.
Should probably make a new thread for it considering its the series final.
inb4 a 70 year old Ahsoka shows up at the end of Star Wars IX when Rey calls all the Jedi that have been in hiding for the last fifty years to help her establish the Jedi Order once more.
All of the original 7 movies (episode 1-6 & Clone Wars), the 120 episodes of Clone Wars, and everything going forward starting with Star Wars Rebels are ALL canon.
Even if she went through a different portal didn't Filoni say that the she ended up in the season 2 time period?
I don't have a source but read it somewhere around here.
I think he specifically said she ended up right where we saw her at the end of Season 2, descending the stairs into the temple. Since the Topps cards seemingly depict events from after that point, the next portal could presumably take her anywhere without contradicting Filoni's statement.
This is what I thought. You even see her walk toward the triangular walkway in Season 2, so my thought is that even then, Ezra had stepped through time to save her and we just never saw it. Her next step was always going to happen...
Season 2:
Season 4:
...being that her spirit animal, the owl, taking her to the portal that is in this temple (if that's how it works). We can see that from the artwork here: https://thewookieegunner.com/2016/07/15/swce-2016-ahsoka-tano-digital-cards-topps/ By the look of the portal, I think she's going to Lothal. So, I guess the rest of the force users will be together for a R1-like ending?
Also, Vader was on the surface outside the temple in that episode, so I'm sure anyone could get out. I think Maul was manipulating Ezra like he did luring him to Obi-Wan. The spirit animal was taking Ahsoka there on purpose, just like the loth-wolves guided Ezra. But who is the owl??? Was it the will of the force that Dume brought Ezra to the temple to stop the Emporer from figuring it out, or to save Ahsoka? I think once we find out what happens to Ahsoka, we'll get an idea.
I may be wrong about all of this.
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Filoni said in the most recent Rebels Recon:
"The fun thing for me was that I could tell this whole story about her and meeting Ezra and what's going on and then end precisely where I ended before in Season 2. So you're not really farther ahead than you were with her, but you learned a bit of the story that you didn't know existed. So now you know that she really is descending that staircase in the triangle doorway because you see the triangle doorway behind her and everything is set up for her to hook up with that moment. Whatever happens after, I mean who knows at this point."
So my thing is that, it's not entirely clear WHEN she arrives back at precisely where she ended in Season 2. That moment that was depicted in season 2 could easily be at an advanced time, ie 2 years advanced from her fight with Vader, ie at the same time frame Ezra and everyone else occupies now.... or, it could be that she ends up where and when she left. It's not super important, but if she shows up again in this series finale or again in future things, it'll be cool to find out what happens next with her.
"The fun thing for me was that I could tell this whole story about her and meeting Ezra and what's going on and then end precisely where I ended before in Season 2. So you're not really farther ahead than you were with her, but you learned a bit of the story that you didn't know existed. So now you know that she really is descending that staircase in the triangle doorway because you see the triangle doorway behind her and everything is set up for her to hook up with that moment. Whatever happens after, I mean who knows at this point."
So my thing is that, it's not entirely clear WHEN she arrives back at precisely where she ended in Season 2. That moment that was depicted in season 2 could easily be at an advanced time, ie 2 years advanced from her fight with Vader, ie at the same time frame Ezra and everyone else occupies now.... or, it could be that she ends up where and when she left. It's not super important, but if she shows up again in this series finale or again in future things, it'll be cool to find out what happens next with her.
I was going to wait until the season was over before catching up but the hype around 'A World Between Worlds' pulled me in. I just watched the most recent 4 episodes this morning and was not disappointed.
It was mentioned earlier in this thread but I thought the 'World' that Ezra ends up in was handled and depicted really well. It could've easily been a very hokey concept but the design, the voices, the pathways, the portals... all of it were depicted wonderfully. I can't wait to see what they do with this concept in the future.
It was mentioned earlier in this thread but I thought the 'World' that Ezra ends up in was handled and depicted really well. It could've easily been a very hokey concept but the design, the voices, the pathways, the portals... all of it were depicted wonderfully. I can't wait to see what they do with this concept in the future.
Exactly. This is "Time travel is a part of history, past can't be changed" kind of time travel.
Ya, I saw that too. It's why I think time travel isn't the point of the "World Between Worlds", but more of a world that links everything together (ie the Force). Hell, the entire point of Palpatine's blue fire thing was that he wanted Ezra, if Ezra had believed he could save Kana he would have stepped through and probably have appeared directly in front of the Emperor.
As far as the ending of the series, I'm 90% sure
that the ending will be Ahsoka, Ezra and the rest of the gang going to the World Between Worlds and traveling to Post-Original/Pre-New Trilogy era(Or possibly even Post-TLJ era) , where they conveniently bypass any conflicts over about Jedi in the rebellion, and are also available to be characters in the next series.
That shot with Ezra pulling out his lightsaber in front of the Lothwolves looks like he's about to enter a fight he has no chance of winning. Maybe he rolls up on Sheev?
Alternatively, it could also be like a defiant last stand before Thrawn's forces close in.
Either way, though, it's not looking good for him.
Alternatively, it could also be like a defiant last stand before Thrawn's forces close in.
Either way, though, it's not looking good for him.
Put me in team Ezra lives camp.
Safe bet team.
If he lives the explanation for this is sure going to be interesting.
Safe bet team.
If he lives the explanation for this is sure going to be interesting.