I beg to differ on this (that's from those impressions, right?) - the frame-rate is almost never 60fps. Will have a video soon.
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Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order: The Digital Foundry Tech Review
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How's the resolution? Worried after reading Xbox resolution being 720p.
I'm playing it on a 4k tv with HDR on so it looks fine, I think it's 1080p though since again im playing it on base. But there's some framerate issues when you enter new areas and glitching, not to mention a lot of weird pop insssss
It feels like I'm getting far too much slowdown on X. It gets surprisingly bad at times in resolution mode. I hope they do a next gen enhancement for this game at 4K60.
How did they let that running/walking animation cycle get into the final product? They look terrible, no average person runs or walks like that. For starters, one doesn't keep their arms separated from their body by such a wide margin, it's not a normal position and it's actually more exhausting because you're actively keeping your arm away from your body. That shit is going to annoy me a lot when I play this game, as well as the "I crapped my pants but I'm in a hurry" running animation.
Because we get an idea of how good it is. Ps4 Pro will be very similar so it's a good benchmark.
I can't stand it, to be honest. I am really debating with myself to wait until next gen console to play this game. By then it will most likely have received enough patches to resolve the current bugs, too, and will be much cheaper.
Well, that`s BS. The game on PS4 Pro is far from running at stable 60 FPS in performance-mode. It feels more like hovering between 40 and 50 FPS.
To me it feels even worse to play this in performance-mode than playing Sekiro on Pro/X.
In quality-mode it runs fine most of the time, but there are severe framerate drops and split second freezes that oddly enough are not always reproducible.
there is a video above that proves is not 60 FPS and missing some effects
30fps Mode is mostly locked on both. X is higher resolution.
60fps Mode Pro's framerate is slightly better (very small difference) but run mostly 40-50 fps, while X has a few things running at higher graphical settings in performance mode.
Basically play it in 30fps mode for the best performance on both Pro or X.
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If you believe it's running at a solid 60fps on the Pro then you either don't know what a solid 60fps actually looks and feels like.. Or you're delusional.. I'll opt for the former
Or they looked at a very specific area of an early temple, or in the less open early sections of the game somewhere
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Wow. I mean, I like DF but vgtech is really it if you are interested in raw numbers.
So base PS4 is 720p to 900p? Damn. I mean, the taa probably helps a lot, reconstruction, too.
And Pro also reaching 1440p is interesting, to say the least. But we already know that is has many settings dialed back in comparison to the X.
I hope they test the Xbox versions, too.
Same here lol, the asset quality might not be on battlefronts level but I think the general lighting/shading looks pretty excellent. I don't think it looks that inconsistent in that regard.
It's good to use since you get more responsive controls, so really I only used it in difficult battles or when nothing was happening on screen.
So I guess the verdict is "if you don't have a Pro console, don't get it"? This sounds really rough on base hardware.
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Unfortunately yes. I have to imagine most of the games coming out in the final stretches of these consoles (and any cross-gen games that come next year onward) will be kinda trash on the base consoles and just passable on the mid-gens. Especially multi-platform games. Exclusives like TLoU 2 will still be good on the base.
Sigh. I have a friend who worked on the game so I have to support it, but I was really hoping it would at least run decently.
Maybe I'll just leave it in the packaging and never play it. Or just buy it and then immediately trade it in for something else so I'm not just throwing $60 in a hole.
I really this gets patched for next-gen too. I don't see any satisfying playable version even for mid-gen tbh.
I had no issues with Sekiro on Pro but the hiccups on X for this are just constant. Games still fun but maybe a 1080/30 option should have been included. Is there a way to force this on Pro?
edit: by no issues I mean the drop in sekiro didn't seems as prevalent as they do here. They do seem to be focused more on transition areas but Ididnt think those transitions would be constant and not just going from one larger area to another (like say Link's Awakening)
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Sadly this is not the case, no version holds close to 60fps on consoles.
Thanks for the VG and NXG vids and stats (saves me from watching them and getting spoiled). Feels like the game could do with a performance patch.
I mean... Imperfect performance doesn't immediately = a 100% trash and not worthwhile experience
Yeah it looks really clean on the "X". But once you switch to performance mode it looks incredibly blurry. Even in the menu when you see a big image of Cal, when switching between resolution and performance is a BIG difference. I played a lot of 1080p game, but something about this game when in performance mode it just seems way too blurry. I just been on resolution mode and while not perfect it is really good. Respawn needs to contact the Coalition and get some tips from them because Gears 5 runs at much higher resolution and at a pretty rock solid 60fps. They know Unreal where Respawn seem to struggle with it a bit.Clean looking game on X
Phasing. The characters pop in and out and fall through the floor and shoot back out. Happens with lots of other textures as well.
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I only saw this once in about 10 hours of play. Bummer you're getting it a lot
some of them do have weird phrasing because they're aliens though lol
Playing on Xbox One X, off of an external HD. It isn't something that ruins the game for me, I just definitely see it at times. Usually during the cut scenes.
exactly my experience too, except that resolution mode also stutters a lot, Kashyyyk being the worst but it is also obvious on the first planet. the technical aspects of the game are in general not great (framerate, glitches, janky animations, hitboxes, washed out HDR)
performance mode is a complete mess
The game seems to stutter a lot on Performance mode on Pro after like 20-30 minutes of gameplay. The game overall feels quite clunky to play at lower framerate. I usually don't play on consoles but I just finished playing Death Stranding so I'm sort of adjusted to 30FPS, yet the 30FPS here does not feel as nice. Must be something to do with the animations and the game's genre itself.
You have to be pretty oblivious to framerates to not see that this game is almost never hitting 60. It often stays in low 40s, not even 50s. If it was in 50s most of the time then I could see how people may mistake it for stable 60FPS.
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You have to be pretty oblivious to framerates to not see that this game is almost never hitting 60. It often stays in low 40s, not even 50s. If it was in 50s most of the time then I could see how people may mistake it for stable 60FPS.
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Well tbf, Gears is pretty much UE flagship. From what I understand TC and Epic collaborated to some extent on the engine as well or atleast did in the past.
But yea the disparity is rather large when you see the base Xbox is running at 720P/30, and the game is smaller in scale compared to Gears.
Patching is only going to take you so far. The game is really a next-gen game. We are at the end of a generation cycle, so a lot of the games coming out will barely run on base console hardware (i.e. Cyberpunk for example). At the start of next-gen, you'll see a lot of games like this one.
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These aren't the textures you're looking for. Move along
As DF has said, while the 'performance' modes are disappointing in reaching 60fps, I'm glad they're there as an option - largely for the (very likely) possibility of being able to play at a locked 60 at the highest reconstructed res on the next gen of consoles, hopefully without a patch. I would hope the vast majority of newer games would have this option for that very reason.
Would have thought though in the latest DF tests if they believe I/O is the bottleneck (and it seems to be) they test with an external SSD rather than another slightly-slower external HD, that would draw more stark comparisons I believe. From what I hear of the PC version it also gets these stutters too, but they're just that - stutters, not several-second pauses.
Would have thought though in the latest DF tests if they believe I/O is the bottleneck (and it seems to be) they test with an external SSD rather than another slightly-slower external HD, that would draw more stark comparisons I believe. From what I hear of the PC version it also gets these stutters too, but they're just that - stutters, not several-second pauses.