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Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order: The Digital Foundry Tech Review
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Was waiting for this to figure out what platform I'm getting it for. Thanks!
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Xbox only coverage in this video unfortunately. They didn't get PS4 review codes.
Why even bother doing a DF video if you only have one platform to analyze on? This seems too early.
More videos, more clicks.
Plus, people want something now, so why not give them something.
Something > Nothing
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This is more of a breakdown of the tech running the game, not a platform comparison. More of a 'what exactly is this game like' instead of 'how it plays on all the devices' if you will.
They did the same for Modern Warfare, nothing wrong with that.
It's a tech analysis/breakdown. Not a comparison video. That will come in the future.
They always do a tech analysis and a platform comparison separately. DF is about more than console wars, it's about appreciating/understanding tech driving games.
Summary
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Summary:
- Gap between XBO and XBX is more significant than usual.
- Running on Unreal 4 (instead of EA's staple Frostbite)
- XBX offers 2 modes: Quality: 1440p/30 FPS and Performance: 1080p/Unlocked.
- Base XBO runs at 720p
- Minor glitches noticed throughout gives the game an unpolished look
- XBO has a lot more issues compared to X.
- Texture pop-in can occur on X as well but much more prevalent on XBO.
- Game straight up freezes for a few seconds regularly on XBO (loading issue)
- XBO also fails to load world areas in time if moving quickly between places
- XBX "Quality Mode" is near-locked 30 FPS with dips in cut-scenes in opening levels.
- In later areas during combat, frame rate does dip a bit but mostly stable 30 FPS through out the game.
- XBX "Performance Mode" hovers around 45~50 FPS with some lighter areas closer to 60 (but never a stable 60)
- Average is low enough that even using VRR displays don't make the game feel stable.
- XBO has a lot more frequent dips in starting areas.
- In later areas the game feels more sluggish, frame rate is in mid 20's for long stretches and the above issues compound them.
- Summary: XBX Quality Mode best way to play the game. Performance Mode feels more like a future proof option.
- Gap between XBO and XBX is more significant than usual.
- Running on Unreal 4 (instead of EA's staple Frostbite)
- XBX offers 2 modes: Quality: 1440p/30 FPS and Performance: 1080p/Unlocked.
- Base XBO runs at 720p
- Minor glitches noticed throughout gives the game an unpolished look
- XBO has a lot more issues compared to X.
- Texture pop-in can occur on X as well but much more prevalent on XBO.
- Game straight up freezes for a few seconds regularly on XBO (loading issue)
- XBO also fails to load world areas in time if moving quickly between places
- XBX "Quality Mode" is near-locked 30 FPS with dips in cut-scenes in opening levels.
- In later areas during combat, frame rate does dip a bit but mostly stable 30 FPS through out the game.
- XBX "Performance Mode" hovers around 45~50 FPS with some lighter areas closer to 60 (but never a stable 60)
- Average is low enough that even using VRR displays don't make the game feel stable.
- XBO has a lot more frequent dips in starting areas.
- In later areas the game feels more sluggish, frame rate is in mid 20's for long stretches and the above issues compound them.
- Summary: XBX Quality Mode best way to play the game. Performance Mode feels more like a future proof option.
reading this...
im so glad i just bought an x LOL
even tho i would totally get used to the xbox one performance after a few hours
because not everytin is fucking conzul warz, dude
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Some seconds of cut-scenes without any audio and a few seconds of what looks like a boss fight from the first/early chapter.
Oh boy. The sooner MS can sunset the XB1S, the better. With every new release the console performs worse and worse.
Jesus, technically the game is a mess if it isn't even solid on the X. Yeah, I'll wait for a patch or a dozen of them
Weird they couldn't get PS4 codes considering most of the big U.S outlets reviewed the game on PS4.
Also worth noting, in Giant Bomb's quick look video they said they were told the next patch would specifically focus on improving performance.
Resolution mode looks like 1440p to me on Pro for what it's worth.
Also worth noting, in Giant Bomb's quick look video they said they were told the next patch would specifically focus on improving performance.
The store page and the Xbox.com page for the game never mentioned 4K.
The menus on Pro specifically mention the performance mode is 1080p.
Resolution mode looks like 1440p to me on Pro for what it's worth.
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Man come on. if your not going to compare it to the ps4 versions, just wait until you are able too. thats the whole point of these videos to most. smh
I was looking forward to the comparison, to see if its even worth buying.
I was looking forward to the comparison, to see if its even worth buying.
yet again showing why Respawn are insanely smart at the decision they made. Guarantee not using frostbite made this such an easier job on the team and what they wanted to do.
EA needs to stop forcing Frostbite down everyones throat
I can only imagine how much better bioware would have been off for Andromeda and Anthem using UE4 instead of needing to overhaul the frostbite engine just to get what they wanted it to do to a reasonable standard.
EA needs to stop forcing Frostbite down everyones throat
I can only imagine how much better bioware would have been off for Andromeda and Anthem using UE4 instead of needing to overhaul the frostbite engine just to get what they wanted it to do to a reasonable standard.
I dont mean to ignite a console war but the one s running at 720p in 2019 is downright embarrassing, I know most games dont run at this res but we've seen several big titles running sub 1080p on XO this gen! Glad MS got their act together with the X..can you imagine how think would have looked like if mid gen consoles hadn't been introduced this gen...
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Thanks for the confirmation.
Guessing Pro will generally be worse performing in both modes compared to XBX (unless there are other visual settings which have been reduced to compensate)
You couldn't act more childishly entitled if you tried. They can put out as many videos as they want. They didn't have PS4 code, so they went Xbox only for the first video.
yes, we have seen some devs scale a few things back where the Pro ends up with a higher framerate at launch, usually X gets a patch down the line that puts it above where it should be.
Either way, most likely the refreshed consoles both will perform solid, especially since we know the very next patch is all performance
Don't take it out on me. This is on the publisher.
Waiting longer to include PS4 would damage the chances of success for this video. I'd have loved to get both versions in there but it wasn't possible. That video will come later.
There are 2 platforms in this video.
We can then put out multiple videos - get information out early, not lose the huge amount of views we would otherwise miss, not overly burden the person making the video with too many platforms. Just because a video does not cover the platforms or the cross platform comparisons you want, does not make it "too early".
Sometimes I literally just cover a PC version. Does that make it "too early?"
Seriously, it's incredibly helpful to still have one set of consoles analyzed since almost no other publication touches on these things.
Performance mode is awful on the Pro, major framepacing issues and stutters often, resolution is better but also chugs sometimes.
looks like the findings match up with impressions Mike Mahardy gave on the beastcast this morning about popin and textures and sometimes platforms failing to load. Maybe I am better off holding off until more patches clean up some of these issues
To be blunt: I care less about how well a game looks or plays on a platform vs. platform basis and more about whether or not it runs well at all on the platform I own. Comparisons don't really matter to me, but I would prefer to be able to go into a game knowing it won't perform as badly as Control did on base PS4.
After playing for a few hours today, i can see why. Performance is not good on the pro.
Poor One S, doesn't sound like a pleasant experience at all.
No, the wait for those PC Videos is actually too long.
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No, the wait for those PC Videos is actually too long.
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And again, that was completely out of their hands. They can't provide impressions of a game if it wasn't made available to them by the publisher.
Only a few minutes in I saw something I would have rather not. Nothing huge, and actually something I was guessing. But, still would have rather not seen it.
Double bladed lightsaber.
A bit disappointing that it's only 1440p on Xbox One X, but at least it's at a rock solid 30fps.
Yes I'm really curious about this, hoping the video gets into it a bit once I can watch. I remember them saying it helped with Sekiro.
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Unreal Engine doing its thing, haha.
I chuckle when playing The Outer Worlds (playing on PC and X1X) as textures/polys pop-in. It must be a bear to work with even with highly successful studios.
Can't wait to play this on my One X. Do they mention HDR in the video? (can't watch right now)
Told my wife this is what I want for my Birthday. 😁
Then I guess EA is hoping people will just buy it on PS4 sight unseen. If a publisher refuses to release code for a platform, that's almost never a good sign.