I dunno, I have seen that crowd very much attacking EA over that, especially with them having the Star Wars IP, am pretty sure they want this to shut them up a bit.
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Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Official Reveal Trailer (EA/Respawn, November 15, 2019, PS4/XB1/PC) [Read Staff Post]
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I trust Respawn's ability to make a fun and creative game. All their games have some flaws but mechanically they're fantastic. However, this trailer did nothing to me. Generic story so far. Generic characters. Music straight out The Avengers. Strong facial animations at first but the wallruns, grabs and fights looked bad. Also lack of gameplay is hugely disappointing to me.
I think this will probably be a good game. But this trailer and the premise don't sound special at all.
I think this will probably be a good game. But this trailer and the premise don't sound special at all.
I consider my self an extremely progressive person. I also think the criticism of the character is dumb and idiotic
so what does that make me?
Heh, I really like the story of a Jedi on the run since he was a child. I love the part where he saves his coworker and friend using the force, even when he himself said he would never show his powers. Really cool plot. What do you guys think?
In all fairness, they only had a literal galaxy of options to choose from for their protagonist.
This did not impress me.
Star Wars 1313 shown at E3 2012 and 2013 seemed superior visually. So sad that was canceled.
Star Wars 1313 shown at E3 2012 and 2013 seemed superior visually. So sad that was canceled.
It was a movie trailer lol.
Gone were the mgs days when Kojima would hit us with trailers that stirred up months of discussions.
Or even BOTW with that remarkable date reveal that got us all hyped through the roof.
Now we get a bunch of generic soldier one liners and some ordinary shots.
After Sekiro, this game needs to do lots of extra work to be amazing. Not dismissing it, but not hyped at all
And yes, even in interstellar warfare, the human standard is 'murica. Hella generic character.
Gone were the mgs days when Kojima would hit us with trailers that stirred up months of discussions.
Or even BOTW with that remarkable date reveal that got us all hyped through the roof.
Now we get a bunch of generic soldier one liners and some ordinary shots.
After Sekiro, this game needs to do lots of extra work to be amazing. Not dismissing it, but not hyped at all
And yes, even in interstellar warfare, the human standard is 'murica. Hella generic character.
Single Player is being hyped up as much as it is because it was EA after all in stupidity who said Gamers do not want single player games anymore. Which sparked the whole backlash in the first place
You mean when there's 90% of them being that way and it hasn't changed much. So some take issue with this? yes.
Because that's the real argument. Not your victim lens that your trying to sidestep, by playing mental gymnastics and then turning around using it as a "gotcha" moment.
Shitting on a character because of his race isn't very inclusive, is it? (even if he's white).
Don't put me together with those other comments. Complaining about a character being generic when we have zero idea how he's written is incredibly stupid (hell, he could still be LGBT for all we know). This doesn't mean I agree with people acting as if white people were under attack because some people don't like the design of a character.
This didn't really do it for me. But I think I may be a tad tired of star wars at this point, so that probably has something to do with it.
I'm glad to see a purely singleplayer game from EA again though.
I'm glad to see a purely singleplayer game from EA again though.
"Man, the character is another white dude, why can't we have something else for once?"
Gamers:
People, it's ok to want something else. Nobody is calling for the castration and murdering of all white males just because people want a different character on a videogame. Chill.
Gamers:
People, it's ok to want something else. Nobody is calling for the castration and murdering of all white males just because people want a different character on a videogame. Chill.
The trailer was so lackluster that there is really nothing else to talk about but their casting choices. They should probably stop doing these events if they don't plan on showing gameplay or a bit more content than what we were given today. I remember the battlefield 5 reveal event felt just as bad.
It's easy to see the flaws of in-engine reandering but at this point those won't go away until we get new hardware.
Not surprised that some might call out another white male "generic" MC when you have so many races/genders to choose from. Its already an issue in games that play in the real world but its obv. even more disappointing when you have a vast universe with a bunch of races at your disposal.
This isnt even hate or anything but just a fact - ofc people gonna call out getting served the same or similar dish all the time.
Probably the last Star Wars console game we are getting this gen and the first big - non-Battlefront one after they have cancelled a couple of them - so expectations were high for this unveiling.
This isnt even hate or anything but just a fact - ofc people gonna call out getting served the same or similar dish all the time.
Probably the last Star Wars console game we are getting this gen and the first big - non-Battlefront one after they have cancelled a couple of them - so expectations were high for this unveiling.
I would have rather seen a game where you play as a bounty hunter or something, like the organisation in the Han Solo film. That would have been cool. Jedi are a bit overrepresented in the games I think, they're meant to be rare to see in the galaxy, and that was before Order 66.
I'm not willing to give people the benefit of the doubt after what happened to Kelly Marie Tran.
again no one is playing the victim lol. I think the criticism of the character is stupid and dumb so do many others. Were not trying to portray are selves as victims
Should've been called story trailer, because it revealed absolutely nothing about what makes it a video game.
How long has this game been in development? 3 years?
I remember it being somewhat teased at E3 2016/2017.
I remember it being somewhat teased at E3 2016/2017.
Sorry, not sorry you didn't agree with my opinion on wanting to talk about the game more than wanting to go through the endless post about generic white males. As a PoC myself, I see the value in having a diverse cast of characters. When I hear the term, generic white male, I'm also including personality in that, and I don't think the "generic" is fair when we have no information about the character at all. The Star Wars franchise lately, in my opinion, has been quite diverse. We've praised the lead roles women and PoC have taken in the universe recently, but snap when a white male is cast as the lead even when it looks like his character is befriended and mentored by a female PoC?
Both. This close to release they should be nearing completion of the game and doing polish/testing primarily. So there's no excuse to not have at least a short demo so people can actually see what the gameplay even looks like.
Unless they're in the same boat anthem was in, which I highly doubt. But in an age where lots of hyped games turn out to be trash when its released, and completely different than originally shown off/advertised, you have to remain cautious when they won't even show you the game itself.
well, ok then, either way the criticism is reductive and stupid
User Banned (1 Week): inflammatory false equivalencies surrounding inclusivity and race
Not in reverse, just racism.
That was certainly not what I hoped for. But I can't say it's much different from what I expected.
Looks like boring Star Wars, instead of exciting Star Wars. I'm not sure why I hoped that this would be the game to compete with the great Star Wars games of my youth.
Looks like boring Star Wars, instead of exciting Star Wars. I'm not sure why I hoped that this would be the game to compete with the great Star Wars games of my youth.
To be fair, they said "gamers don't enjoy linear experiences as much anymore" (in many ways this is true) which got turned into something worse. It was a poor choice of words regardless.
Lmao at people pointing to a SP campaign no one remembers in a game marketed and known for multiplayer and proceeding to "SEE they have representation!" (the cover of the fucking game doesn't even show her face). But when it comes to actually marketing and building a game solely off of single player/story driven focus, we're supposed to just be fine with yet another white male lead with no other options.
This is fucking 2019. Take a look at who shows up for SW celebration.
I think the larger problem is the amount of people in this thread (or more specifically in the thread for the actual reveal event) whose sole comment about the entire game was "Shame it's a white dude, hype lost"."Man, the character is another white dude, why can't we have something else for once?"
Gamers:
People, it's ok to want something else. Nobody is calling for the castration and murdering of all white males just because people want a different character on a videogame. Chill.
Like, that's just an absurd observation. It doesn't contribute much of anything to the conversation. People called that out. Era then smelled a fistfight over representation in games and now here we are. Nobody's actually talking about the game or the trailer at hand, just other people who said something that they perceive to be one way or the other.
We've reached the "Discourse about the Discourse" stage of this thread, and it's shit as a result .
You're not allowed to consider someone as a person and a character, you're supposed to 100% base things on external appearances.
Pack it up ya'll we've cracked the case.
Having a diverse protag is not a problem. Asking for diverse representation is a good thing complaining and whining is not asking for it in a constructive way not a way that is simply complaining about it.