Star Wars Han Solo, is the best out of the new Stars Wars Movie {spoiler}

[z0m3le]

Would people stop pulling the episode 8 pseudo science out of their ass? Splintered fan base or not general audiences didn't want to see a Han Solo movie without Harrison Ford. It sounded lame before episode 8 came out.

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That definitely played a part in it, most people I've talked to either liked the actor as Han Solo, or hated that he wasn't Harrison Ford.
A lot of people who are life long Starwars fans stopped caring about future films in the series after Episode 8. I'm a Star Trek fan myself, but I think all of the recent Star Wars movies weren't very good, everything from the phone joke in TLJ to Rogue One's main character having zero agency. Han Solo isn't a great movie, so I'm not trying to defend it, but I'll say if it wasn't called Han Solo/wasn't a Star Wars film, it would stand on it's own better than the other recent movies.

People "wanted to hate" since it was announced, long before TLJ released.

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Yeah, as I mention above, I don't deny that, but after TLJ, a lot more people wanted to join them.

I wanted to hate it so bad I went and spent my own money to watch it. This, Rogue One, and TLJ all. All so I could pre-emptively have street cred when I bashed the movie online (editor's note: neon_dawn did in fact bash the trailers before release). That's how deep the dark burning depths of my dark hate burn for my hatred.

Or maybe it was just a mediocre, clunky, ridiculous bad movie.

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Least bad is my point. Everyone gets to have an opinion, and that's mine. The one movie that could have actually been passable without the star wars name was this one, I'm not giving the movie an 8, and it's certainly flawed, if he wasn't named Han Solo and wasn't Star Wars, I think more people would have enjoyed it. Maybe it's because I'm not a star wars fan, but the movie worked on a level that the others don't, that is all I'm saying.

 

[Owarifin]

The movie played the Imperial March theme as an in universe ad for the Empire...
WTF.

Almost like it's a parody.

 

[Gifmaker]

I would not call it the best out of the new ones, but it definitely is a great movie that didn't deserve to flop. Good of you to spread the word, OP. I really, really liked it. It gave me legit OT vibes and left me wishing for more. I like the way it explored the Star Wars universe.

The movie played the Imperial March theme as an in universe ad for the Empire...
WTF.

Almost like it's a parody.

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Was already done in Rebels before:



Also, military marches are a thing.

 

[Deleted member 42055]

Can't totally agree but I still surprisingly really enjoyed it. Didn't deserve to flop so hard. Still sad we'll never see the full Lord and Miller version though

 

[Deleted member 4247]

I enjoyed it a surprising amount. I had a difficult time viewing that guy as Han Solo (Ford is just too engrained in my mind), but other than that it was a fun movie. Way better than R1, and in fact I think I rank it above TLJ too, beaten only by TFA of the new movies.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Why do so many on these forums have such a bad opinion on the new Star Wars.

TLJ > TFA > RO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solo
Get it right guys.

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No, it's
TFA>RO>SOLO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TLJ


:D

 

[Deleted member 2809]

It was a good movie with great action set pieces and cool visuals.

People wank over rogue one because of fan service and that vader scene.

 

[OnPorpoise]

The general idea for a Solo movie isn't inherently a bad one, it's just that the specific approach to Solo was half as interesting and half as clever as it needed to be.

It had a cast that could have delivered the Star Wars equivalent of Ragnarok, but what we ended up with isn't especially funny or charming, and it tends to fall flat emotionally at numerous points.

 

[Wackamole]

Nah, pretty forgettable movie. Rogue One was a good movie though.

 

[Bulby]

Found it instantly forgetable. At least I hated TLJ, I got some kind of reaction out of it.

I dont want to shit on peoples opinions but this appreciation of mediocrity is baffling sometimes. I cant think of any part of that movie that genuinly stood out or was particularly interesting or original.

The characters were caricatures. The action sequences were played out and lacking any tension. Humour was standard pap.... Fucking Darth Maul, I forgot about that shite....

Always love Woody Harrelson though.

 

[Phamit]

I wished the movie wasn't structured around OT movie references. I think they put everything that was mentioned about Han Solo in the OT in this movie and made a movie around it.

Also this movie sometimes has a lack of self awereness that it is a prequel. We know Solo or Chewie isn't going to die, don't design the set pieces pretending otherwise.

 

[skeezx]

if it wasn't so conceptualized around being an "origin story" and moreso about that particular orbit of the star wars universe (thieves, pirates, vagabonds ect) it probably would've done better and spun off into it's own thing. they had the right idea but at the same time they didn't

either way it's my favorite of the Disney stuff. not overwhelmingly so but just in terms of sitting down and enjoying a star wars movie

 

[DIE BART DIE]

It's way better than we were led to believe, but it's still comfortably the worst of the new films.

TLJ is divisive (I really like it on the whole), but Rogue One is the most underappreciated. I think there's a lot to like about it, including the excellent third act. The way it makes the Death Star terrifying again makes Starkiller Base in TFA seem even more lazy in retrospect.

Note to Era: Watch Rogue One again with an open mind. There's a lot more to it than OT nostalgia and that Vader scene.

 

[Deleted member 9241]

It was not good, but sadly your title is still correct.

 

[sir_crocodile]

Definitely way better then TLJ and RO. Better then TFA I'm not sure about, I'd need to watch both movies again.

 

[Tedmilk]

Solo is entertaining. Rogue One is still the best SW movie under Disney.

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This is my opinion too and I don't care! I'd also put Solo above episodes 7 and 8, easily. These 'anthology' movies are far more interesting than the main episodes this time around.

 

[Osahi]

It's fun, but it's the worst. Feels very episodic in structure, is filled with stupid references (stuff like that can be fun if it isn't overkill. Here it is overkill), this story doesn't really tell us how Han became who he is in ANH either, as he's actually quite heroic in the end. It also feels like it wants to link just too much to other movies 1nd set-up new plotlines in stead of telling its own story.

Doesn't help that of the 4 it is the most drab looking too.

It's a fun movie, but it's behind the other disney era movies imo

 

[Izzard]

I don't think Rogue One's characters were 'I don't give a fuck' characters. They were just as good as any in other SW films. I do think K2SO was a better droid than L337 though, more my kind of humour.

Solo is a great film, loved it, and really would have liked a second one that involves jabba but doubt that will happen.

I've liked every Disney SW so far, and only have a problem with you know which one. I'm just hoping they do a dark side movie. You know, Vader/Sidious sithing the galaxy up.

 

[Soj]

It's good, but TLJ is a masterpiece.

It flopped because nobody wanted a young Han Solo movie in the first place. It wouldn't have mattered if it was the best movie ever made.

 

[Deleted member 1627]

I don't think it's objectively the best out of the Disney era movies, but by gosh it's definitely my favourite.

 

[Gen X]

I loved Solo and Rogue One. Rogue One I've seen 3 times now. Solo I'll watch again soon when I'm on my own, my 7yo talked through most of it on my first viewing.

 

[Ferrs]

I dunno why some people keep dragging 8 into this. I LOVED 8, and although I also liked Solo, I think it's the worst of the new movies. And 8 existing doesn't have anything to do with it,

It was a good movie with great action set pieces and cool visuals.

People wank over rogue one because of fan service and that vader scene.

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It also has the best (IMO) dogfight battle.

 

[Matheulbeuk]

Rogue One is still the best, but Solo was not the desaster the press told everyone about.

Actually, a pretty good script for the second part, the shoot first scene is great, and the music is really good too.

A real shame that Disney decided to stop producing those side movie, because they are clearly more inspired, more creative and more interesting than 7 or 8.

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

Episode 8 is easily the best of the new ones and 7 is also better than the spin offs because they advance the story more. I still absolutely love both spin offs for different reasons. Rogue One's final battle is pretty much among the best Star Wars has to offer while Solo is a super-fun space adventure.

 

[Bard]

Solo is entertaining. Rogue One is still the best SW movie under Disney.

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This is how I feel about it. All of the other recent movies are alright. Empire is still the best of the franchise.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

It's not my favourite but there's a lot to like about it. I'd put it in third behind TLJ and TFA.

The opening is the weakest part but it really picks up after Mimban and the Conveyex scene.

I liked Alden more than I was expecting to and I'd be up for him returning to the role at some point, however unlikely that is. The cast were good across the board but the film seemed to get bored of its characters pretty quickly. They introduce Val and Rio then kill them within a few minutes and then do the same with L3. I would have liked more time to be spent on Han and Chewie's relationship too as even he's brushed to the side a bit as the film goes on.

There are undeniably too many nods and winks. The origin of Han's surname being the worst culprit.

I loved the unexpected twist with Enfys Nest - hopefully we get more of her at some point - and Bettany was very entertaining as Dryden.

Credit to John Powell for his excellent soundtrack too.

 

[Deleted member 1726]

Solo is entertaining. Rogue One is still the best SW movie under Disney.

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This.

I watched it recently too and was expecting a right train wreck, I actually got a really enjoyable star wars universe flick.

I see no problem with Alden as a young Solo, it worked.

 

[kurahador]

The movie is a trainwreck, as if it wasn't obvious from the forced references, forced origin (the gun, Solo name and Kessel Run) and shoving twist after twist towards the end while setting up a sequel that we'll never see. But it is damn entertaining.

Rogue One is good due to the 3rd act set pieces, but when you promote your movie showcasing it as a cast assemble only for most of them to be a boring and thin characters, it is kinda disappointing. The movie got better rep than it should because it was released while we were still on that SW honeymoon period.

 

[EarlGreyHot]

I found it to be immensely boring

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I liked it. Ironically I didn't go see it in theaters after being burned by TLJ and RO.

 

[DerAuto]

I love Star Wars threads.

Spoiler

Han Solo is easily the worst movie out of the new ones

Spoiler: while we are at it

TLJ is easily the best

 

[Modest_Modsoul]

I saw it, and in humble opinion the film just average.

Give props to Alden Ehrenreich as Solo though.

I have doubts of him because in some movie posters, his facial expressions somewhat unconvincing to me, lol.

He's good as Han, different style & age from Ford, but entertaining to watch.

 

[Aftermath]

Solo was good but unnecessary and Rogue One was better, also kind of unnecessary but a interesting story from the line from the crawl of ANH.

 

[GravaGravity]

So you're saying you stan solo?

 

[Adam Sadler]

I think I would've enjoyed a Han Solo movie more if it was a random adventure between him and Chewy as opposed to being so persistent about all the nods to the original trilogy and how things came to be

 

[TitlePending]

I thought Solo was a fine movie, but didn't leave me with any residual emotional feelings like I had when Rogue One ended. Perhaps it's because

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I was surprised Disney let all the characters in Rogue One die, and I was actually emotionally attached to them.

. But Solo didn't leave me with anything to think about after the movie was over.

So to me, Rogue One is still the best of the Disney SW films by far.

 

[BlackFyre]

I found nothing interesting about Solo.

It's just a very forgettable movie. Even the Kessel run is blah.

And how he gets his last name is...uh

 

[Lockheartilly9799]

Solo was so bleh. I loved Lando and Woody Harrelson's character though. Based on the major spoiler event towards the end, I wouldn't have minded a sequel but we won't get one.

I loved the Last Jedi so much, though. All I would have done to change it is remove the Casino Planet and alter the story of Finn and the gang a bit and it would probably be my favorite SW movie ever.

TLJ > TFA > RO > SOLO

 

[Whompa]

It's not but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

It felt useless.

 

[Soapbox Killer]

RO>>Solo>>>TFA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TLJ

Enjoyed Solo a lot but it did have issues and felt a bit rushed.

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I didn't expect someone else to share this ranking. Now rank the whole saga.

Solo was a casualty of TLJ basically derailing the saga with it's blundering drops of several interesting story threads and needless geek shaming character assassination of Luke Skywalker.

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I actually believe this. It didnt help that it came out in the summer. If Solo had some time to breathe and was released in December of 2018 it would have been a different story and had a far better performance.

 

[Border]

The one movie that could have actually been passable without the star wars name was this one, I'm not giving the movie an 8, and it's certainly flawed, if he wasn't named Han Solo and wasn't Star Wars, I think more people would have enjoyed it. Maybe it's because I'm not a star wars fan, but the movie worked on a level that the others don't, that is all I'm saying.

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Well yeah, if you set the film up as a prequel to an existing IP then it is going to have problems because every character's fate is pretty much a foregone conclusion. From the very first minute we know that Han isn't going to end up with the girl. His interactions with Lando and Chewie and the smugglers are predictable as well. Is he going to make the Kessel Run? Yeah, fucking of course he talks about it in A New Hope. Too much of the film is spent playing out events that are already known or can be assumed.

The only curveball is in the Darth Maul reveal in the final 30 seconds, and that has a very much "pulled from our asses" feel that confused as many people as it pleased.

Agreed with complaint 2, thought the same, specially at the end.

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That complaint encapsulates the film's problems -- Solo's creators where so obsessed with having known events play out on film that they never bothered to consider whether it was a good idea to adapt known events. "Oh we gotta see Han win the Falcon in a game of Sabaac!" Do we really? Because we already know that he wins, and it is really kind of boring to watch a fictional gambling game be played on screen.

 

[Elegant Weapon]

Solo & Rouge One are extremely meh. Solo is kind of fun but really dumb.

TFA & TLJ are much better movies, by a lot.

 

[Mengy]

I rather enjoyed Solo. I don't think Alden's portrayal of Han was particularly good, but I found the rest of the movie more enjoyable than I expected to. That said, it's not my favorite of the Disney SW films.

If I had to rate the Disney SW films purely on how much I enjoyed watching them, then I'd rate them like this:

TFA > RO >> Solo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLJ

TFA was just fun for me. Sure it's script had some weak points but overall I felt it was a very well done SW movie. I also find it very rewatchable too.

RO is a bit of a dichotomy for me. The first half is a tad boring, yet I greatly enjoy how it depicts life under Imperial rule, which is something no other SW film has ever accomplished to this degree. However, RO's last half is amazing, possibly the best hour of SW Disney has made yet in my opinion. Also RO is a very cinematic film with striking shots and great directing. I just wish that first half had been stronger.

Solo I described above. Fun but flawed, better than average but not by a lot.

TLJ, well I'll just say it's a beautiful mess of a film, but I did not enjoy it and I dislike it more with each viewing. Amazing score and cinematography though, sadly that's not enough for me.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Solo is fine. I remember it not grabbing me very much, though. I don't think I liked the main actor all that much, but the plot and everything was fine.

TLJ >>> TFA ~ RO > > Solo

 

[Sulik2]

Solo is entertaining. Rogue One is still the best SW movie under Disney.

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This is pretty much how I feel. Except Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie period.

RO > TFA > ESB > ROTJ > SOLO > ANH > TLJ > ROTS >>>>>>>>>>>> TPM > AOTC

 

[Deleted member 9035]

I agree it's the one I liked most out of all the new ones.

 

[T8SC]

Of the new movies, I preferred Rogue One but Solo comes in second.

 

[Mockerre]

Solo was an enjoyable romp indeed. It didn't need to be a Han Solo movie, I would have preferred it be about new characters, that would elevate the stakes quite a bit. Didn't care for the fan service, like Han's blaster, Chewie's name and so on, but the didn't bother me. Alden Ehrenreich did ok, considering the thankless job of filling someone's giant shoes he got, Emilia Clarke was Emilia Clarke, but still passable, rest of the cast was great.

It did have a new type of story in the SW universe, new types of characters, new set pieces and visuals, it wasn't base on nostalgia, which I found surprising and a bit baffling. The spin-off movies based on known ideas (Han Solo, Death Star) continue to be innovative, while the main saga films are regurgitated dreck, go figure.

It wasn't a lesser copy of a better movie with a ton of plotholes (EP7) or a cluster*** of a movie (EP8) and it had better fleshed out characters than Rogue One (the reshoots, too, weren't as detrimental to it as they were to Rogue One, which is surprising and a testament to the workmanship of Ron Howard).

EP8 reception did influenced the box office, to a certain extent, but it was a hard sell from the start - nobody asked to recast Harrison Ford and nobody wanted a Han Solo movie to begin with.

 

[Huey]

I thought it was a thoroughly mediocre film, Star Wars subject matter or no, and the directorial transitions and lack of cohesive vision was pretty clear on the screen. Just generally didn't agree with the casting decisions either, which were essential to nail.

In my view, rogue one has been the only actual good film to come out of the new Star Wars movies.

 

[Skiptastic]

It reminded me a lot of Rogue One, where it took a while to get to the "mission" but once it was there, I really enjoyed it. I liked the characters, thought Aiden did a good job as Han Solo. But I found the first half wasn't as enjoyable as the second (just like Rogue One).

Neither of the offshoot films are as great as TFA or TLJ.