Standard camp evil villain plot.
I actually thought the idea of Sith / Dark Side continuum inhabiting those who assassinated them was neat
So had Vader truly killed Palpatine, he would have been instantly juiced up from the Sith cloud backup?
Standard camp evil villain plot.
I actually thought the idea of Sith / Dark Side continuum inhabiting those who assassinated them was neat
I feel like most people would've been fine with that if they didn't bill TFA as Episode 7 and as a continuation of the Skywalker Saga. It's a weird turn to use a nobody when it's supposed to be a family saga and the past two were Skywalkers. Using a Palpatine is worse though. What was JJ smoking?
I think the biggest problem for me was how dumb palpatines plan was. They literally had what I'm assuming to be hundreds of planet killing star destroyers and he decides to just keep them on planet and announce he is back.
These are also canon.
I think the biggest problem for me was how dumb palpatines plan was. They literally had what I'm assuming to be hundreds of planet killing star destroyers and he decides to just keep them on planet and announce he is back.
Nah there was a ritualistic element to itSo had Vader truly killed Palpatine, he would have been instantly juiced up from the Sith cloud backup?
a team of nobodies against a skywalker seems like a pretty good conclusion to me. Abrams absolutely shat the bed with this, christ.
You could however, interpret the Vader /Luke duel in RotJ as an attempt at that ritual
If force ghosts can so heavily influence the physical world why doesn't all Jedi get murdered at the end of their training so they can return as ghosts and not be afraid to die?
You could however, interpret the Vader /Luke duel in RotJ as an attempt at that ritual
I live for camp Flash Gordon shit and I generally enjoyed itOh yeah?
I live for stupid Star Wars shit, I might end up enjoying this movie lol
Wasn't it confirmed ages ago that palpatine was always ugly and was just revealing his true self when "fighting" mace windu in ROTS, because if so that makes his melting scene in the new movie even more idiotic.
Did they also reference the Holdo maneuver ?There is a single shot of one in the finale and it seems they're more aggressive than regular soldiers... the scene lasts maybe 5 seconds, then they are just treated as regular stormtroopers, i'm not joking.
JJ and his "Do it because it looks cool" bullshit lmaoThere is a single shot of one in the finale and it seems they're more aggressive than regular soldiers... the scene lasts maybe 5 seconds, then they are just treated as regular stormtroopers, i'm not joking.
I literally laughed out loud at certain parts of the movie that was not supposed to be funny.
There is a single shot of one in the finale and it seems they're more aggressive than regular soldiers... the scene lasts maybe 5 seconds, then they are just treated as regular stormtroopers, i'm not joking.
To build a secret Empire in the shadows of the galaxy, clone a bunch of creature people called Snoke, use it to control the actual Empire that was already forming, seduce Ben to the Dark Side using one of your puppets so that many years later he can recruit your granddaughter - then compel him to kill your granddaughter, only for him to refuse and kill your clone puppet - but it's OK because you placed wayfinders all over the galaxy for him to find, so you rely on him to find them and come find you and when he does, you then tell him to leave and come back with Rey, so he does, and now your granddaughter, who you wanted dead before, can finally kill you to take over the combined secret Empire and real Empire, but she refuses, so you suck the life force energy from her to come back 100% and then try to kill her for real this time, all while killing Ben who you never really needed to begin with.
The opening crawl references Palpatine sending out a transmission revealing himself to galaxy and swearing revenge (a pretty important event, I'd say -- the old dictator that's been dead for 40 years publically announcing his resurrection and current scheme). This is not something we see in the movie, but in fact something that happened in the Fortnite promotion last week, shortly after Geoff Keighley and JJ Abrams got out of the Millenium Falcon, asked people to floss, and then had terrible banter about JJ's tight pants.
All of that just because Darth Sidious didn't want to raise his granddaughter on his own.To build a secret Empire in the shadows of the galaxy, clone a bunch of creature people called Snoke, use it to control the actual Empire that was already forming, seduce Ben to the Dark Side using one of your puppets so that many years later he can recruit your granddaughter - then compel him to kill your granddaughter, only for him to refuse and kill your clone puppet - but it's OK because you placed wayfinders all over the galaxy for him to find, so you rely on him to find them and come find you and when he does, you then tell him to leave and come back with Rey, so he does, and now your granddaughter, who you wanted dead before, can finally kill you to take over the combined secret Empire and real Empire, but she refuses, so you suck the life force energy from her to come back 100% and then try to kill her for real this time, all while killing Ben who you never really needed to begin with.
Just got out of the cinema. It's entertaining but...
Jesus what a fucking mess
This is not ok either.
There are aspects I really liked. I liked that ultimately a Skywalker and a Palpatine joined forces and even found romance saving the galaxy. Adam Driver sold the shit out of his interaction with Han. Amazing moment... There are nice callbacks to other moments in this trilogy. I liked things like Rey scavenging the Death Star like she did the Star Destroyer in TFA. I liked bigger callbacks like Luke raising the X Wing as though it were nothing and giving a smile.
Too much of it is horrible though. It feels so focus tested in some ways but in other ways it's like nobody pushed back and said yo, this might be too much. Why so many wayfinders? One of them is crushed, another is burned, but it's ok.. why not just have one? Likewise when someone writes "thousands of planet killing star destroyers rise out of Exogol" - why not tone that down? If one of those things was bearing down on planet Earth right now btw but we know you could instakill it by shooting it's massive underbelly gun - I probably wouldn't be all that worried. If Emperor Glados has so many minions in his arena, and a Snoke cloning facility, why isn't that shit in use - why aren't his agents already sithing up the universe? It might have been a cool plot point to reveal that the Sith had abandoned the one master one apprentice philosophy...
I feel like aside from the old characters, Kylo Ren is the only character I actually liked. Others had potential but it's mostly squandered imo. Finn definitely had a nicer part than in TLJ though. I actually really liked 3POs role and dialogue too. It was fun. The Leia stuff was very nicely done.
I feel kind of tired after watching it. Like it was just too much. And aside from Passana it's a very muted film. There are definitely moments of colour and over the top action, but if I think of one colour that defined the movie it's probably some kind of bluey grey. Dark.
I probably need to see it again to form a proper opinion but at the moment I have no desire to. I'm not sure it was bad per se, I think I was quite entertained, but I don't feel that NEED to see it again which I've felt for a lot of the others. I feel like Disney have dropped the ball overall. Its not bad, I just feel it could have been much better planned, it could have been much better.
That's what the ROTS novel said which was based off the script.
All of that just because Darth Sidious didn't want to raise his granddaughter on his own.
The central point of the Emperor's grand scheme was avoiding child support.honestly? game respect game, I've done similar stuff to avoid responsibilities
Nope. Just Palpatine.
I haven't seen the movie, but the galaxy-wide threat transmission by Darth Sidious isn't heard in the film, right? Which means that a crucial part of the plot is exclusive to Fortnite. What the fuck.
That would've been an excellent piece of worldbuilding. Show the state of the universe by having intertwined shots of the transmission being heard by different people/beings on different planets. But nah. What the fuck². Some really weird decisions.
To build a secret Empire in the shadows of the galaxy, clone a bunch of creature people called Snoke, use it to control the actual Empire that was already forming, seduce Ben to the Dark Side using one of your puppets so that many years later he can recruit your granddaughter - then compel him to kill your granddaughter, only for him to refuse and kill your clone puppet - but it's OK because you placed wayfinders all over the galaxy for him to find, so you rely on him to find them and come find you and when he does, you then tell him to leave and come back with Rey, so he does, and now your granddaughter, who you wanted dead before, can finally kill you to take over the combined secret Empire and real Empire, but she refuses, so you suck the life force energy from her to come back 100% and then try to kill her for real this time, all while killing Ben who you never really needed to begin with.
Yeah, it's odd. I know it's mentioned in the text crawl, but it can be heard here. It's a good line, if a bit short -- why have it absent in the movie? It seems too important. The Emperor has been dead for 30~ years, returns out of the blue, and we are just told about it?It was mentioned in the text crawl. Which led me to go what the fuck probably too loudly. Not the best start.
Alright, Real Talk:
Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star system is in dispute.
vs
The Dead Speak!
Which is the shittier opening sentences in a SW title crawl???
Special shout out to Ep 3 for 'There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.'
"The Dead Speak!" is a much more interesting hook than trade disputes.Alright, Real Talk:
Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star system is in dispute.
vs
The Dead Speak!
Which is the shittier opening sentences in a SW title crawl???
Well, now that we know that the 9 mainline films are about Palpatine and his family we could probably count him as the hero.Did they ever explain how an army of barely sentient robots could have heroes?