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Star Trek: Picard - Season 2 | Back to the Qture
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Episode lengths in the first season got shorter and shorter until the sixth, at which point they turned around and kept getting longer (with major exception to the penultimate ep).
I'm hoping we're just a bit late in turning things around this time, haha. 38:30 or so, wasn't it? That's like a regular-length Mandalorian ep ffs.
I think one of the best things about streaming is flexible episode lengths. Does your 30-min show need to be 33 minutes one week? 27 the next? No problem. It's a real boon to not have the weight of being edited down-to-the-second around your neck when you're trying to tightly pace out a show.
But I do think it's SUPER weird that some shows, like Picard and Mandolorian, seem to be embrace having even bigger swings in run time. Sometimes as extreme as the show shifting from half-hour to full hour formats. Book of Boba Fett's longest ep was 53 mins, shortest was 32. Picard is getting up there, too. Odd.
But I do think it's SUPER weird that some shows, like Picard and Mandolorian, seem to be embrace having even bigger swings in run time. Sometimes as extreme as the show shifting from half-hour to full hour formats. Book of Boba Fett's longest ep was 53 mins, shortest was 32. Picard is getting up there, too. Odd.
Yeah, it's paltry. I feel like the two Frakes episodes almost could have been one supersized ep or something. 33 for this, and what, 37 or so for the previous one?
Then again, if they did that everybody would be baffled when the eps end up feeling like the mid-season chapters that they are, rather than something huge, hah.
Jurati is going to go Parasite Eve on people isn't she (red, long dress and has the power to take over things and people and change them)?
I love to record easily-accessible daily video-logs about my ethically-dubious cloning experiments.
Yeah, Rios is totally going to stay behind with the Doctor. Ugh.
Yeah, Rios is totally going to stay behind with the Doctor. Ugh.
Not sure Rios could stay behind because wouldn't that essentially make the stargazer meeting borg never happen? I could see a Voyage Home ending though where the Doctor comes with Rios. I mean everyone is running around calling the unconscious old man Admiral etc. has to start making one wonder what's really going on.
Why would he give up his captains chair and risk destroying the timeline? That feels pretty unlikely.
He was already a disaffected Starfleet office before and his return to the captaincy was short lived. Everything we've seen so far this season points to that outcome. He's obviously enamored with the doctor and he's made several comments about enjoying the speed and atmosphere of 2024 (along with the food). I think its a pretty natural end point for him. Though, it may turn out that he takes the Doctor back with him, too.
Considering the cast announcement for Season 3, I feel like the show maybe has to or should shed some of its current cast members? I'd love to be wrong. I'd sure as hell prefer to keep Rios around over Raffi.
I'm not sure he really matters to that particular event, though? Picard is the reason the Borg ship is there and its his connection to the Stargazer that makes it likely for that ship to have been the impetus moreso than who is in the captains chair at the time.
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Jurati might be the dumbest of all Trek characters. Like we're approaching Neelix level incompetence. And the rest of them aren't faring much better given how unconcerned they are with their missing teammate. Picard in jeopardy or not, a few of them should be out looking for her, and they should all be suspicious given her close proximity with the Queen.
While it's a big improvement over S1, there's WAY too many subplots going on for a 10 episode series, and much like S1 the borg crap could just be cut.
Or take her with him to the future, Star Trek IV style.
While it's a big improvement over S1, there's WAY too many subplots going on for a 10 episode series, and much like S1 the borg crap could just be cut.
Or take her with him to the future, Star Trek IV style.
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The only problem is she has a kid and she's doing pretty important work, you don't need free clinics in the future. I don't see Rios taking her from that
It's Soongs all the way down.
I don't think you have a "oh, you really, really like things here and even have a star-crossed romance tempting you" scene if the character isn't going to stay behind. Definitely not my favored outcome for Rios, but we'll see soon enough.
Also these. The writing really seems to be teeing it up for him to stay.
Short-ass episode.
Crazy how quick we went from "clearly Rios is getting a Stargazer spinoff" to clearly "Rios is staying in the past and we'll never see him again". I've got a feeling neither him nor Jurati are going to be in season 3 which is a bummer because they're my favorites. I'm assuming the "consensus" is going to be that Agnes singing was stupid or "cringe" but I thought it was great. She injects some fun into the show and I like the idea that the Borg Queen was fucking with her endorphins and other hormones to take control.
Crazy how quick we went from "clearly Rios is getting a Stargazer spinoff" to clearly "Rios is staying in the past and we'll never see him again". I've got a feeling neither him nor Jurati are going to be in season 3 which is a bummer because they're my favorites. I'm assuming the "consensus" is going to be that Agnes singing was stupid or "cringe" but I thought it was great. She injects some fun into the show and I like the idea that the Borg Queen was fucking with her endorphins and other hormones to take control.
Rios can stay in the past, and if he doesn't do anything noteworthy he wouldn't mess up the timeline. He doesn't necessarily need to go back. Sucks tho if he stays.
Jurati's musical number was good. Her and the borg queen have been the only good thing these past 2 (3?) episodes. Soong shit is lame.
Jurati's musical number was good. Her and the borg queen have been the only good thing these past 2 (3?) episodes. Soong shit is lame.
He'll stay behind and have kids with the doctor, so when the rest of the crew return to their correct time they'll meet the great great great great great great great great grandson of Rios who just happens to be in Starfleet and played by the same actor as Rios.
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Why should they worry about Agnes? It's not like she's ever done anything questionable in the time that the Picard crew has known her. She's certainly completely trustworthy to be off doing things on her own.
No no no, canonically Jurati murdering Maddox was the result of Romulan mind control. So just like any of the awful and insane things other ST characters have done under some other influence.
Oh yeah I already forgot they had to do that retcon this season. You're right she's totally trustworthy, no risk of her ever being mind controlled in any way again.
Exactly just like the Roswell episode of Futurama where Fry becomes his own ancestor.
Annie Wersching doing work as the queen. I only know her from her creepy ass role on Rookie (which she also does well) but I didn't realise she actually made her TV debut on Star Trek. On Enterprise. Interesting to see her tricking Jurati to allow her to gain more control.
I still think both will be a thing tbh.
I know the new Picard showrunner has stated he is more than happy to work with the crew again. Though he did just come out against paramounts NFT thing so who knows his future.
Yeh anything is posible and tbh, assuming that they don't yet have it in the works, by the time they do and its ready for release Discovery will have finally been cancelled (read: reached the end of its likely 7 year run) so they'll want something else anyway. Also Picard only has 1 season left. 2023 is going to be the final Picard and likely penultimate Disco, then 24 will be the final Disco, and what, the 5th season of Lower decks, 3rd of Prodigy, 3rd of SNW.
S31 is either in dev hell or just never happening so if they want to keep making more Star Trek then they need to be fleshing things out about now.
One with Rios on the Stargazer, one with Captain Seven, space ranger. Perhaps her old comrade Doc will accompany her on occasion.
Not sure about an actual show, but we are definitely getting the ship again. Insiders have said that season 3 is starship and starbase heavy and the showrunner had recently seemed to confirm that with his comments. I doubt a show was scheduled, but just like SNW they may look at fan reaction and look again.
I will note the Stargazer set looks expensive, I haven't compared to see if it's a redress of an existing set like they used to do in the 80's/90's.
But the new Enterprise was a dead give away a new series was planned featuring it because of how expensive it was.
But the new Enterprise was a dead give away a new series was planned featuring it because of how expensive it was.
Yeah 100%. With the cast announcement for S3 of Picard we're going to be seeing a lot more of ships.
It was honestly probably easier to do a closed set this way too. . If we had any shots out in the open then you can bet the cast would have been leaked before the announcement.
Holy balls. I don't know why it never clicked before but it's Tess from "The Last of Us"!
It's mostly wishful thinking based on a cool ship design and Rios chewing on a cigar in the captains chair.
My take on the stay in the past thing is that they'll make make us think he wants to stay, but something will happen to force him to come back to the future.
I assume bridge sets aren't that hard to do comparably. It's just a series of monitors and chairs, very much like a submarine I guess, and considering everything is so dark, they don't even need to fill out the details too much.
It's like Rios' ship, which at least doesn't seem all that elaborate by comparison to the Discovery sets where they needed all these interstitial areas and also sets other than the Bridge.
Rios, having remained in the past, enamored with the food, the cigars, the parties, and Teresa:
Rios, remembering that the Bell Riots are 5 months away and the start of World War 3 is now only two years off, after Picard & crew have already left:
Rios a few years later:
The fetishization of the past is really strange considering he was about to be deported to Mexico or otherwise disappeared by racist cops.
It would be as if they played the DS9 episode with Benny Russell straight and it was about how a time travelling Sisko fell in love with living in the 50s without any acknowledgement of how shit it was to live in the 50s as a Black man.
It would be as if they played the DS9 episode with Benny Russell straight and it was about how a time travelling Sisko fell in love with living in the 50s without any acknowledgement of how shit it was to live in the 50s as a Black man.
Oh shit I also forgot about WW3. That would make it dumb as hell for Rios to decide to stay, even if that's what they seem to be setting up.
WW3 is hard to ignore, but Julian had basically no idea about that period of history when he was talking to Sisko (including the riots).
To all that guessed the clone stuff go collect your points.
All Hail the Future-Present Borg Queen!
I'm starting to worry, it is to obvious now...
I thought the Picard mom stuff was only home violence but the images implied there was an alien attack?
Speaking of spin offs, gimme 7of9 ranger series!
All Hail the Future-Present Borg Queen!
I'm starting to worry, it is to obvious now...
I thought the Picard mom stuff was only home violence but the images implied there was an alien attack?
Speaking of spin offs, gimme 7of9 ranger series!
No figures to hand, but it was 7 figures. Top of my head near $2 million which was the give away.