Is it getting canceled just like Disco is about to be canceled any day now?
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Star Trek: Picard - Season 1 |OT| Re-ENGAGE!
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I mean, nah.
If Star Trek survived ST09, it can survive anything. Disco and Picard aren't doing any damage to its legacy or future; if anything, they're saving it.
Yes and they said it will probably only run for 3 season, Stewart is old and probably doesn't want to do a TV show for 7 years again. Of course people will take it to mean it was a catastrophic failure but whatever.
That and the show just had its best numbers since the premier. Pretty sure I just read that.
I wish people would just stop watching as opposed to wishing for a death of a show I actually really like. One of my favorites on the air right now and like the only show I can't miss.
I utterly disagree I am loving this show,every second of it. If all the episodes were available I would have binged watched it and I don't binged watch shows. This is one of the better shows on right now
If anything this show and Discovery have redeemed the franchise after the Abram films.
Picard was a great dad.
Funnily enough, in the fine tradition of TNG, this last episode forgot about The Inner Light when Picard agreed with Riker that handling a teenager is a totally new experience for him.
Yep, forgetful like the fanbase that keeps spewing that Picard is supposed to hate children after season 5 of TNG. The episode Disaster shows him getting over being uncomfortable around kids, and Inner Light has him raising kids and having a grandchild.
In the past 30 days:
So, nope.
No, you can see how deeply his life on Kataan affected him when he shares his story with cmdr Daren in the episode Lessons.
To your point, Stewart's performance in this show is in line with how I would expect Picard to behave after his experience in The Inner Light. He didn't really change at all in TNG, but within that one episode Picard totally mellowed out as he grew older.
Ah, shoot.
It could still be explained as him reconciling it somehow, in the interim time between then and now. I'm hesitant to call it a plot hole because this show has made a great effort to consider niche stuff in Trek lore.
Granted, sending Molly away from a space station that was constantly in serious peril was probably a great idea.
For what it's worth, besides that one quasi-sequel episode, TNG also ignored TIL. I've made my peace with that. TNG as a production was not equipped to reinvent the lead character midway through the series. TV just didn't do that back then. Picard (the show) can do that, but to acknowledge TIL as a life-altering experience - or, rather, another life altogether - would actually betray TNG. If his life on Kataan was something that Jean Luc truly thought of as real, he should've behaved that way throughout the rest of seasons 5, 6, and 7 of TNG. But he didn't. He stayed as the character he always was because it was the damn 90s and the alternative was probably inconceivable.
The Inner Light is just too damn good. It's so good that it breaks Star Trek and it breaks Picard, so the writers have to ignore it. I know it's Stewart's favorite episode, however, so I like to think it informs his performance in this new show.
I'm actually really annoyed about Hugh. Not even sure why, but it's bugging me how the show seems to be just offing every returning Trek character that wasn't a main cast member.
Would not bet against Seven of Nine dying next ep at this point.
Would not bet against Seven of Nine dying next ep at this point.
Originally, I never even thought about it. But in a rewatch, I rationalised it as Troi just doing her job really well.
But yeah, a lot of the big, wildly traumatic episodes (in every series) get kinda brushed off long term.
She could be half Romulan, half Vulcan. She could be a Vulcan in the employ of the Romulans, she could be a Vulcan who was raised on Romulus, she could be a number of things I'm not smart enough to anticipate that explain all this. Probably better to wait and see how it plays out before we just assume the people running Star Trek don't understand basic Star Trek stuff.
I find it easier and more enjoyable to assume that it was such a significant thing, to live another life entirely in that way, that it took Picard years, even decades, to come to grips with on a fundamental level. We see that happen with traumatic or otherwise life-altering events in real life all the time; something that affects us so deeply that we can't come to terms with it immediately, but are eventually forced to reconcile in some way or another.
An older, wiser Picard, 20 years removed from Star Fleet with plenty of time to consider, reflect upon and grow from the experience, certainly seems plausible to me, at least.
Vulcans were also against reunification so it could be a Vulcan working with Romulans
My brother is waiting until right before the season finale is released so he doesn't have to watch week-to-week. I keep threatening to spoil him on shit. 😛
What kind of signal did the "totally not an elf warrior" turn on at the end? I must have missed it when that was introduced.
BTW. As ridiculous as that character is I kind of like him. Could partially just be though because he's one of the few people who isn't just miserable all the time.
BTW. As ridiculous as that character is I kind of like him. Could partially just be though because he's one of the few people who isn't just miserable all the time.
A beacon that calls the Fenris Rangers, who Seven is a part of.
Ah, nice. Should be fun to have her back on a borg cube
I mean, they all kind of are. Expect for Laris and Zhaban, and everyone like those two. Coincidence?
The show is absolutely not "dying a death" in any way, shape or form.
There is a small but loud online vocal minority who can't handle their media not being exactly how they imagined it would be in their heads before release, and it breaks them and causes absolutely vitriolic attacks which eventually lead to actors leaving twitter and other social media due to continuous excessive harassment about their damn spaceship show / film.
Just because you don't like the direction something has taken does not give you the right to be nasty and carry out attacks online. Whatever happened to constructive, friendly criticism with peers who are fans of the same property? Oh yeah, YouTube allow the alt-right gamergaters, Red Letter Media groups and toxic sexist intolerant 'fans' to thrive unchallenged. Ugh.
I didn't hear until now that Michael Chabon was leaving as showrunner after this season, hopefully whoever is in charge next season may be more to people's liking. Although I've had issues with some of the script and using cheap deaths as a narrative device (especially the fridging of Soji in the pilot episode to inspire Picard to leave his cosy vineyard), overall I am enjoying the show a lot. This last episode has given me hope that they at least have a solid plan in mind and know where they're going with the season arc. Even if if won't be to everyone's satisfaction.
There is a small but loud online vocal minority who can't handle their media not being exactly how they imagined it would be in their heads before release, and it breaks them and causes absolutely vitriolic attacks which eventually lead to actors leaving twitter and other social media due to continuous excessive harassment about their damn spaceship show / film.
Just because you don't like the direction something has taken does not give you the right to be nasty and carry out attacks online. Whatever happened to constructive, friendly criticism with peers who are fans of the same property? Oh yeah, YouTube allow the alt-right gamergaters, Red Letter Media groups and toxic sexist intolerant 'fans' to thrive unchallenged. Ugh.
I didn't hear until now that Michael Chabon was leaving as showrunner after this season, hopefully whoever is in charge next season may be more to people's liking. Although I've had issues with some of the script and using cheap deaths as a narrative device (especially the fridging of Soji in the pilot episode to inspire Picard to leave his cosy vineyard), overall I am enjoying the show a lot. This last episode has given me hope that they at least have a solid plan in mind and know where they're going with the season arc. Even if if won't be to everyone's satisfaction.
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Completely agree.
I definitely thought Rios knew what was up with the particular way he was talking to Agnes there, even though they stopped just short of confirming it and the joke between Raffi and Rios. And that's a great point about how him bringing up Raffi's trip was only a tactic in his questioning of Agnes since he's actually already aware of what Raffi was doing since they just talked about it last time when he came to her quarters to try to help Raffi deal with what happened between her and her son after she got back to the ship.
Yeah, it seems to be doing very well. I'm loving the show overall.
Oh I didn't realize he was just in for the first season.
Yeah it's pretty cool.
Oh I didn't realize he was just in for the first season.
Nice they've been fun so learning more about them will be cool.
Who says romulans can't mind meld? I don't remember that ever being stated.🤔
another lost sheep led astray by the false Shepherd midnight edge how sad
yes that tends to happen with timeRemember when subspace transmitters were huge things.
Now they're the size of a button.
You seen how big a cell phone was in the 80s versus how they are now. Also Voyager brought back a 29th century mobile emitter. I wouldn't be surprised if the miniaturized tech was adapted into different fields.Remember when subspace transmitters were huge things.
Now they're the size of a button.
Picard takes place decades after that DS9 episode? Technology shrinks.Remember when subspace transmitters were huge things.
Now they're the size of a button.
Also the one Odo and Quark had wasn't really meant to be mobile, they removed it from the Rio Grande and dragged it onto a mountain out of necessity.
Remember when cameras were huge things?
Now they're the size of a button.
Agreed.
I think that the level of discourse in this forum's Star Trek threads is quite good.
Though the show has plenty of well-established weaknesses, I still think this is probably the best Season One of a Star Trek show with perhaps the exception of TOS. Which isn't so much an indication of quality so much as it's a reminder that Season One Trek is dreck.
Overall, enjoying this show much more than I did Season One of Discovery. I still have a lot of issues with Season Two as well, but it was an improvement. Hopefully Picard can get a similar shot in the arm for all the folks feeling disappointed.
Overall, enjoying this show much more than I did Season One of Discovery. I still have a lot of issues with Season Two as well, but it was an improvement. Hopefully Picard can get a similar shot in the arm for all the folks feeling disappointed.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty clear too. Rios telling Agnes that he didn't know what Raffi was up to in Freecloud gave it away, since Rios and Raffi had an entire scene where they talked about that. Plus Raffi's face when Rios "threatens" to eject her out of an airlock. Rios and Raffi definitely have been suspecting Agnes of something for a while now, at least after her panic attack while caught in the tractor beam.
As someone who didn't enjoy Discovery (with the exception of a few episodes) and doesn't enjoy Picard (with the exception of the ten minutes of Picard, Riker and Troi hanging out) I will concede that these shows are generally watchable and competently made, as opposed to some of Star Trek's worst season 1 episodes. I think that this is fair to say when trying to judge these shows objectively.
That said, does anyone of us truly believe that these shows can produce episodes that are as good as Star Trek's best? We've had two seasons of Discovery, did we get its Measure of a Man, Q Who, Duet? Do people honestly expect that Picard will manage to produce a true classic?