Season 3 was the peak imo. It felt like it was actually attempting to be itself and tell a story. Season 4 really pushes hard on being TOS lite and just stuffing the show with references and call forwards.
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Star Trek Discovery |OT| To Boldly go into the new streaming era
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Season 3 was the peak imo. It felt like it was actually attempting to be itself and tell a story. Season 4 really pushes hard on being TOS lite and just stuffing the show with references and call forwards.
Actually that brings up another point...the Klingons were going to war anyways, Michael didn't start anything. It was always T'Kuvmas plan to attack the federation. So MU Lorca or not, the klingons have no reason to stop fighting the federation.
I'm curious as to how they're going to explain why future Starfleet didn't order the Defiant to stay away from the interphasic rift if the Discovery makes it back to the Prime Universe before the end of the war. I can accept some changes in canon, but that's going to be a tough nail to swallow if they're going to expect me to believe that Starfleet would willingly withhold information that would save an entire crew from a terrible demise. But of course, if they do stop the Defiant from entering the interphasic rift, that creates something of a paradox since the Discovery crew would've been affected by the knowledge that the Defiant was in the Mirror Universe.
That little conundrum could be avoided if they jump to the future though, or to another parallel universe.
That little conundrum could be avoided if they jump to the future though, or to another parallel universe.
They don't know where interphasic space is amd I don't think they know the exact time of the incident, if they never learn it it will be impossible to save the Defiant.
SFDebris has reviewed the first 3 episodes of Discovery. He does a pretty standard review of the first two episodes, and saves the more in depth look until episode 3, including a nice comparison of Michael and Seven of NIne's characters. He's pretty harsh on it, something that surprised me.
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c101.php
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c102.php
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c103.php
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c101.php
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c102.php
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c103.php
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Ted Sullivan was on Twitter pointing out that Stamets is not the Chief Engineer and that the room we've seen is his engineering lab, not main engineering, which we haven't seen yet. Which is weird considering the room seems intentionally designed to callback to TOS main engineering.
Got me thinking about the layout of the ship. I suppose the Engineering Lab and Main Engineering could be adjacent to each other, both connected to through the... warp drive tunnel(?). Which would make some amount of sense since the ship basically has two different engines under the hood at the same time. Something like this maybe?
Could be a good excuse to have a camera shot pass through the glass (transparent aluminum, excuse me), through the tunnel, through the light at the end and come out the other side and into main engineering. DSC seems a little more indulgent with those kinds of shots.
Got me thinking about the layout of the ship. I suppose the Engineering Lab and Main Engineering could be adjacent to each other, both connected to through the... warp drive tunnel(?). Which would make some amount of sense since the ship basically has two different engines under the hood at the same time. Something like this maybe?
Could be a good excuse to have a camera shot pass through the glass (transparent aluminum, excuse me), through the tunnel, through the light at the end and come out the other side and into main engineering. DSC seems a little more indulgent with those kinds of shots.
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Ted Sullivan was on Twitter pointing out that Stamets is not the Chief Engineer and that the room we've seen is his engineering lab, not main engineering, which we haven't seen yet. Which is weird considering the room seems intentionally designed to callback to TOS main engineering.
Got me thinking about the layout of the ship. I suppose the Engineering Lab and Main Engineering could be adjacent to each other, both connected to through the... warp drive tunnel(?). Which would make some amount of sense since the ship basically has two different engines under the hood at the same time. Something like this maybe?
Could be a good excuse to have a camera shot pass through the glass (transparent aluminum, excuse me), through the tunnel, through the light at the end and come out the other side and into main engineering. DSC seems a little more indulgent with those kinds of shots.
It's actually slightly funny (arguably thematic) how much the cast currently has a science bias. Saru, Michael, Stamets and Tilly are all science officers (well, Cadet for Tilly), and if he had been stationed on a Constitution class Culber would be wearing blue. Lorca and Tyler represent tactical officers, so there just hasn't really been an engineer of any description. Which admittedly is a bit odd when one realises potential stresses and strains on the ship would be easy dialogue fodder.
Of course most of the officers have science background. Discovery is a science research vessel first and foremost. It only engaged more in the war because one of its discoveries was the spore drive that became a very useful weapon.
I don't see him being evil - it seems he did try and turn against the emperor and somehow ended up in our universe. And now has deliberately played a (slightly far fetched) long game to get back on board the emperors ship. So maybe he's a good-ish guy after all?
Hence the 'arguably thematic' - that the makeup of the primary cast reflects the nature of the vessel.
In sillier news, this entered my feed today and it's kinda amazing:
Hey there's a new TL;DW! Just in time for a recap before the next episode.
https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/7t0gnk/tldw_discovery_season_1_episode_12_recap/
https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/7t0gnk/tldw_discovery_season_1_episode_12_recap/
We don't know yet if he was sided with the rebels or not, he could have being acting on his own purposes I.e. getting the throne for himself (after all this is the way people rise in their ranks on the Mirror Universe).
However he has shown that he will make what it takes to achieve his goals, quite questionable things. I fear it has passed any point of redemption.
Suppose to be 8:30pm EST on CBSAA but usually drops a few minutes after 8pm.
I hate being sick right now but still going to be watching even if I should be in bed.
I went to check if the new one was up and got kicked in the balls...
They are now on Mondays in the UK...
KHHHHAAAAAANNNN!!!!!
They are now on Mondays in the UK...
KHHHHAAAAAANNNN!!!!!
That's not changed, has it? AFAIK it's had a Monday release since the start. Bear in mind that it's always Monday in the UK anyway when each episode is made available to US viewers on CBSAA.
Ahh it is? I could have sworn it was on Sunday nights I used to crash and watch it? Maybe?
God I hate being in my mid 30s... shit just blends into each other haha!
God I hate being in my mid 30s... shit just blends into each other haha!
I doubt they will show the defiant, but they have to get back to the prime universe soon to deal with the Klingon stuff.
Ted Sullivan was on Twitter pointing out that Stamets is not the Chief Engineer and that the room we've seen is his engineering lab, not main engineering, which we haven't seen yet. Which is weird considering the room seems intentionally designed to callback to TOS main engineering.
Got me thinking about the layout of the ship. I suppose the Engineering Lab and Main Engineering could be adjacent to each other, both connected to through the... warp drive tunnel(?). Which would make some amount of sense since the ship basically has two different engines under the hood at the same time. Something like this maybe?
Could be a good excuse to have a camera shot pass through the glass (transparent aluminum, excuse me), through the tunnel, through the light at the end and come out the other side and into main engineering. DSC seems a little more indulgent with those kinds of shots.
I feel kinda stupid not realizing this. I guess they never actually said they weren't in main engineering and Stamets wasn't the chief engineer but I just assumed those were both the case.
I still feel like the Klingon war will be dealt with via...
Just my predictions!
a break down of the spore network sending them into the future some when the war has already ended and perhaps the Klingons are even part of the Federation. Either way it will likely end on the off screen. Mirror universe will likely last up until the end of the season.
It was said in an interview if I remember correctly that they show would get closer and closer to the TOS era of Star Trek via designs and such. We also know that season 2 will be more light hearted and the Klingon war won't be a focus (presumably ended). Thus my above prediction of a time jump. Only way I can see them successfully wrapping up the Klingon war in such a short timeframe. Would theoretically wrap up some other stories as well.
More along the lines of colors, themes, etc. Some misunderstood those comments. The show is never going to look like TOS or even a modern version of those designs ala Enterprise during their mirror universe episodes. The show is expanding on things and maybe even retconning some things but still very much the prime cannon. Visually that ship has long sailed though and that's for the better.
Would be kinda dumb to push the ending of the war off screen, but with basically two episodes left (I don't expect them to focus on the war tonight) I guess they're gonna have to rush through it anyways.
Yeah, man, this show looks good and this is just in regular hd since we don't get it in anything else other than cbs all-access. I think it will, but this need to get a 4K blu-ray for HDR.
Hey, communication on the view screen!
Nice scene.
Damn, this Landry is just as hard-ass as that one lol.
Hey, communication on the view screen!
Nice scene.
Damn, this Landry is just as hard-ass as that one lol.
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Wow, all those crew members actually have lines this week. It's almost like they're not just glorifed Harry Kims. lol
That was a fantastic episode, and I'm liking this set up for the final episode.
They now have a brutally efficient tactician on their side.
Still no outright confirmation that Prime Lorca is dead, but I could easily see Issacs being a 1 season thing.
They now have a brutally efficient tactician on their side.
Still no outright confirmation that Prime Lorca is dead, but I could easily see Issacs being a 1 season thing.
I honestly can't remember the TOS mirror universe episode, but did they act surprised that it existed?
I would spoiler that just to be nice.
Yeah but Starfleet doesn't usually tell people about these type of things unless they really need to know. They have tons of secrets.
Yeah but Starfleet doesn't usually tell people about these type of things unless they really need to know. They have tons of secrets.
And when???
Oh please be what I hope.
Oh, 9 months lol
Edit: oh shit. The finale is gonna be Awesome, isn't it.
Oh please be what I hope.
Oh, 9 months lol
Edit: oh shit. The finale is gonna be Awesome, isn't it.