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Oct 25, 2017
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Konoha
User banned (permanent): Peddling Qanon conspiracy theories. Previously banned for justifying sexism and the sexualized depiction of minors.
This hashtag is trending on Twitter.

Has anyone else heard about this... its about a little girl getting physically and sexually assaulted by her biological mother and her boyfriend. The biological father has been trying to get custody but from what i have seen nobody is on his side... cps isn't doing anything... they are involved now but haven't done anything to help the girl out of this situation. There are many videos that the father took to raise awareness. In the video the girl is crying and screaming for her father but the mother and grandmother are taking her. And when the grandmother does sit down and "listen" to her she doesn't believe that she is being abused.

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deepFlaw

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Do we have any indication that this one is real and not another QAnon thing?

EDIT: Sorry if that sounds flippant but I am suspicious as hell of random Twitter posts being used like this after seeing how a few past threads went, where it ended up people being super gullible about QAnon conspiracies.
 

Mendrox

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Oct 26, 2017
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Damn it. Help the girl please. I don't know why people don't take her for real when she cries her out that much and cries for help. What a piece of shit human being do you have to be to not believe a crying kid?

Do we have any indication that this one is real and not another QAnon thing?

EDIT: Sorry if that sounds flippant but I am suspicious as hell of random Twitter posts being used like this after seeing how a few past threads went, where it ended up people being super gullible about QAnon conspiracies.

Seems like I haven't followed that one at all except for seeing QAnons in Germany in Berlin, but what has that here to do with that?
 

deepFlaw

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Damn it. Help the girl please. I don't know why people don't take her for real when she cries her out that much and cries for help. What a piece of shit human being do you have to be to not believe a crying kid?



Seems like I haven't followed that one at all except for seeing QAnons in Germany in Berlin, but what has that here to do with that?

There's been some completely bizarre conspiracies coming out of QAnon about supposed child abuse and human trafficking. Someone seriously made a thread about it here based on similarly panicked tweets that treated some ridiculous claims as if they were facts.

I have to say that, while this thing doesn't seem like the same thing - I still have 0 idea why random tweets are being posted and no context for what this actually is or where these videos come from. Could we get some sort of explanation of that in the OP? Like are these people talking to her father directly or just random reposters?
 

gdt

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Oct 26, 2017
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If this is real, hope this girl gets help. Sounds like a complete bizarre response from authorities though
 
Mar 31, 2018
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I would like to help Sophie and her biological father, that's a natural reaction.

However, I also have my doubts about the truthfulness of this. Placing situations like this publicly on social networking sites seems pretty disrespectful to me. Give that child privacy, I bet these footage have been put online without the child's permission.

I apologize in advance for my skepticism, but in these times it is possible that there is a QAnon agenda behind it. For the unaware: that is a series of conspiracy theories claiming that Trump fights all corrupt democrats who, on the basis of false artificial evidence, are all considered paedophiles. These conspiracy theories are originally derived from 4Chan/8Chan - right-wing extremist sites that also frequently spread child pornography.

I just think this is fabricated, if it is indeed true it would be incredibly disrespectful to post all of this on social networking sites.
 

Nida

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If he has proof shouldn't the police be knocking down their door?

I find it hard to believe a child is knowingly being abused by her mother and yet the father can do nothing. Not saying this isn't happening as our governmental system is trash sometimes.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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If he has proof shouldn't the police be knocking down their door?

I find it hard to believe a child is knowingly being abused by her mother and yet the father can do nothing. Not saying this isn't happening as our governmental system is trash sometimes.
Apparently cps is involved but has done nothing to help and a court ordered her to go back to her mom which is why the father is going to social media. There are plenty stories of cps not doing enough,decreased budgets, too many kids per case worker, etc etc, and kids ending up dead etc etc. The tragic story of Gabriel Fernandez was made into a Netflix doc. The family court system is very fucked up
 
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If it's fake no harm no foul if it's real we need to do everything we can to draw attention to this. I personally know people who were abused by a family member,not believed and are now very mentally fucked up from the trauma.
 

MazeHaze

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If it's fake no harm no foul if it's real we need to do everything we can to draw attention to this. I personally know people who were abused by a family member,not believed and are now very mentally fucked up from the trauma.
It seems hella fake though. We should probably confirm it before passing around what seems like a sketchy attempt to fill up a gofundme based on the satanic pedo panic going on right now
 
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PixelatedProphet
Oct 25, 2017
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Konoha
It seems hella fake though. We should probably confirm it before passing around what seems like a sketchy attempt to fill up a fodundme based on the satanic pedo panic going on right now
I understand the hesitance to believe this the seriousness of the hashtag prompted me to post right away. The videos i have seen it do not look fake and I don't believe a child can fake that type of emotion/crying.
 

TheGhost

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I'm of the mind that you should help unless it's proven otherwise. Dismissing things immediately because you're too in the know about conspiracy theorist might mean you need to take a break from being so involved with knowing so much about them.

CPS and the authorities let shit slip through the cracks all the time. They let some kid eventually be frozen to death out by me due to the kids abusive pos cop father and step mother or something.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm of the mind that you should help unless it's proven otherwise. Dismissing things immediately because you're too in the know about conspiracy theorist might mean you need to take a break from being so involved with knowing so much about them.

CPS and the authorities let shit slip through the cracks all the time. They let some kid eventually be frozen to death out by me due to the kids abusive pos cop father and step mother or something.
^ This post exactly.
 
Mar 31, 2018
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I agree that such cases of abuse should receive attention. I too have family members who have been victims of this in the past. I take it seriously, but not if these videos are spread like that. Privacy for the victim is very desirable and should be respected. The victim will be left with traumas, with mental scars that will be carried throughout life. Attention on social media is undesirable and disrupts the whole healing process because it cannot take place in peace and tranquility. By attention I mean that the victims can find good support and can count on help, good therapeutic guidance and such - no media attention on social networks.

In my life I have also found that police and courts often support the perpetrator in such situations (gaslighting seems to be very effective, if it even misleads legal services). However, it seems very unlikely that there is not a single service within the United States that father and daughter can count on.
 

jokingbird

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This looks extremely sketchy from the accounts sharing it only being from a couple months ago this year, to the links, the gofund me page, and now the paypal link. I would be wary of believing any of this without further confirmation.
 
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PixelatedProphet
Oct 25, 2017
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In a better America Sophie would already be with her dad or a court ordered 3-party caretaker while the court and police investigate what's going on.
 
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That reference to Pedogate on Reddit: I clicked on this link to have a look at it all. It is full of right-wing extremist Qanon propaganda. It causes the whole of it to be questioned.

Check out this Reddit site, with all those posts - I don't believe anything anymore.
 
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DeathyBoy

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I'm of the mind that you should help unless it's proven otherwise. Dismissing things immediately because you're too in the know about conspiracy theorist might mean you need to take a break from being so involved with knowing so much about them.

CPS and the authorities let shit slip through the cracks all the time. They let some kid eventually be frozen to death out by me due to the kids abusive pos cop father and step mother or something.

I get where you're coming from, but buying into anything online 100% because there's social media and a go fund me is as extreme a reaction as dismissing it entirely. And some Dad throwing this stuff up on social media isn't going to help him get his kid back, especially if There's a court case involved down the line.
 

Razmos

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A gofundme and links to pedogate? Yeahhhh I was already thinking this sounds shady.

Maybe I'm cynical but my first thought was "why is something like this being done through social media rather than through relevant authorities"
 

MazeHaze

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Nov 1, 2017
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Photos and videos of a minor being shared, links to pedogate, and it all funnels you to crowdfunding accounts. Nobody should be blindly believing this.
 

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i would have immediately believed this before this thread... i guess based on these posts QAnon has been running similar hoaxes...?
 

Big One

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Uh...why isnt he giving this to authorities? Very suspect tbh.

Why is a GoFundMe even needed for this situation?
 

TheGhost

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I get where you're coming from, but buying into anything online 100% because there's social media and a go fund me is as extreme a reaction as dismissing it entirely. And some Dad throwing this stuff up on social media isn't going to help him get his kid back, especially if There's a court case involved down the line.
There is a kid involved, I leave skepticism at the door at that point.
 

MazeHaze

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I get where you're coming from, but buying into anything online 100% because there's social media and a go fund me is as extreme a reaction as dismissing it entirely. And some Dad throwing this stuff up on social media isn't going to help him get his kid back, especially if There's a court case involved down the line.
It's not even "the dad" sharing it. The twitter thread seems like an unrelated person who just happens to have the whole scoop, the gofundme is made by a woman, the youtube account only has 3 videos and theyre all "sophie". Everything about this screams fake.
 

MazeHaze

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There is a kid involved, I leave skepticism at the door at that point.
This is how Qanon shit spreads though. Plus what kind of person would plaster videos and pictures of their 9 year old daughter detailing sexual assault, using her real name, and not censoring her face or anything? If this was real these videos would follow this girl her entire life.
 

shenden

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I, what? I know authorities are fucking useless often and I have no idea how things works in the states, but this seems like it would at least qualify in being followed up by child protection services? And to be honest if that would be my child, I would kick the door in and get my child out of there, not wasting time on setting up a gofund me.
 

Ocean Bones

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Oct 29, 2017
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I'd really like to know if this is fake. God forgive us if this is a real pleading for help

But that thread is bare bones, and goes straight to a gofundme.

Fuck anyone thatd fake something like this!
 

TheGhost

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is how Qanon shit spreads though. Plus what kind of person would plaster videos and pictures of their 9 year old daughter detailing sexual assault, using her real name, and not censoring her face or anything? If this was real these videos would follow this girl her entire life.
I don't know, if my daughter was going through that and no one wants to help what else do you do besides forceably take her back and end up in jail.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I, what? I know authorities are fucking useless often and I have no idea how things works in the states, but this seems like it would at least qualify in being followed up by child protection services? And to be honest if that would be my child, I would kick the door in and get my child out of there, not wasting time on setting up a gofund me.
Even if he is her biological dad taking her from the mom would be considered kidnapping. Just because your a biological parent doesn't mean you can just take your kid and go hide somewhere the other parent can't find you.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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The original thread doxxes everyone involved? Why not take this to the press instead of some random guy on social media? Why does the father himself not have an account on the front line of this?
 

DeathyBoy

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I don't know, if my daughter was going through that and no one wants to help what else do you do besides forceably take her back and end up in jail.

Well, firstly, speak to a lawyer, Even if it's just a consultation, they'll be able to advise you what to do and what not to do, namely not drag it to social media and Reddit. If this ever goes to court, any lawyer would get all of that thrown out straight away as evidence.
 
Mar 31, 2018
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I reported this because it is clearly fabricated content. Proof of this are the links to GoFundMe and the PedoGate reddit, which is part of the Qanon extreme-right conspiracy theories. I have notified the moderators in the hope of removing this topic.
 

ChippyTurtle

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Oct 13, 2018
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Qanon shit....man, this thread needs to be deleted, spreading around BS. If he wants to get publicity, go to the freaking news or talk to a politician or a representative and ask for help.

 

Tidus9000

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Oct 27, 2017
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I had a long thing written out but I'll just leave it at this: Why is the only source on this twitter? Why no press? Why no statements from police or CPS? why does it all lead to a gofundme? Why is this only making traction on QAnon related sites?


Op I know your heart is in the right place but
Honestly, the most logical explanation to all those questions is that this isn't real. I'm willing to be proven wrong but I really hope I'm right
 

Critch

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Dec 10, 2017
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Reported as well. Obvious Qanon trash. Linked to a Q subreddit? Immediate Gofundme request? Come on, man. #Istandwithcriticalthinking
 

Voytek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seems very fishy. I would not encourage anyone to donate to this. Wait for more information. OP shouldn't be posting stuff like this here without real sources.
 

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Considering all of the red flags, we're locking this thread
 
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