If Sony was in hot water for claiming 1080P with temporal injection then google seems to have stepped much, much further over a line.
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Stadia Review Thread
- Thread starter KoolAid
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I actually like the first one better, it feels more immersive.Oh this is bad, wonder can I still cancel my preorder!? 😅
EDIT: Order cancelled, fuck that.
I hope someone actually gets this and don't think I'm serious.
I don't agree. All the media outlets are reviewing it today. Headlines are popping up everywhere. People are reading it. Lowering their expectations. Cancelling preorders. Dropping their interest. And I doubt we'll see new reviews next year.
Not surprised. As a console gamer I'm almost pleased. It's not like I wish any product to fail, but hey, Google can afford it.
I've said this in multiple other threads, but streaming isn't the problem here - Stadia is. You can stream games at 1440p or 4K right now using Shadow, and the video quality is noticeably better than any of the Stadia screenshots I've seen.
This is an image taken straight from a stream of Gears 5.
This is an image taken straight from a stream of Gears 5.
Media outlets spent months lambasting Pokemon Sw/Sh and it seems to be tracking as one of the most successful pokemon launches ever (rumor but believable). All I'm saying is the mainstream isn't out there reading early access previews of todays launch.
That sounds like more than enough from what I understand. Keep in mind though, it's not just a question of up and down speed, but latency and connection consistency.
I have a connection that hits somewhere between 70-100 mbps on 5g, but holding a strong, consistent 5g connection is something I realized my network is very bad at only through using xCloud. Generally, I didn't notice when stream video or browsing the internet as the bumps are mostly smoothed out through buffering or non-latency specific actions. Or, if my 5g dropped, the lower band picked it up so I didn't have a loss in coverage. Those things have been very noticeable on xCloud for me.
Absolutely disgusting. In no way is this an equal to 'high end' PC gaming. They should add 144hz PC on there just to show how vast the gap actually is.
From the WaPo review...
See this is the kind of latency I was getting when I fucked around with Geforce Now 4 years ago. Its disappointing to see with all of Google's buzzwords and captial its no better.
Yeah, having streaming as an option in the future as a compliment to local play could be a really cool and convenient feature. But streaming-only seems to just be making things somewhat more convenient sometimes for some gamers while introducing a lot of a really awful complications. I'm not really sure who it's for.
They're listening though, if things are as bad as they seem I won't go to work all hyped about the service when I receive my stuff, I'll be as negative as an old cranky man like myself can be and non-gamers will listen and talk to their friends etc. Same for everyone else. Things will spread. Back when Xbox One DRM fiasco happened I went to work cranky as well. Years later someone was surprised to know that you actually didn't have to be always online. First impressions by early adopters matters a lot.
Mainstream media outlets weren't really out there dragging Pokemon. Like, NYT wasn't running articles on Dexit or anything. And Pokemon has a very very strong established brand with consumers. I don't see the comparison at all.
These reviews are likely to be the first time a lot of people have even heard of Stadia. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.
I've said this in multiple other threads, but streaming isn't the problem here - Stadia is. You can stream games at 1440p or 4K right now using Shadow, and the video quality is noticeably better than any of the Stadia screenshots I've seen.
This is an image taken straight from a stream of Gears 5.
Images mean nothing though. It's the quality in motion that matters.
This is true, but it's only relevant to the extent that Google treats next year's mainstream release day (or whatever you want to call it) as a big event with tons of advertising and somehow whips up lots of good word of mouth. Even then, if they manage to get people interested in Stadia, the first things they're going to find when they search for "Stadia review" will be today's articles.
I was actually pretty encouraged reading these reviews, because I'm really excited about this tech, but I'm not planning to invest until around spring.
I want Stadia to succeed primarily because I want a way to play Cyberpunk at maxed settings, at 4K / 60fps / HDR.
By the time Cyberpunk is ready, I'm willing to bet that Stadia will be, too. At least now I know that the primary function, the actual streaming of the game with no noticeable latency at high resolution (I have gigabit internet and pings have always seemed low i guess i'm lucky like that) is already working as intended.
Cool. Let them iron out the service and flesh out the QOL bullshit for the next five months, and I'm ready to dive in.
EDIT: I just saw that RDR2 renders at 1440p and runs at 30 fps. My dreams of 4K / 60 fps Cyberpunk have just been dashed. Google get your shit together and don't ruin this dream for me. =[
I want Stadia to succeed primarily because I want a way to play Cyberpunk at maxed settings, at 4K / 60fps / HDR.
By the time Cyberpunk is ready, I'm willing to bet that Stadia will be, too. At least now I know that the primary function, the actual streaming of the game with no noticeable latency at high resolution (I have gigabit internet and pings have always seemed low i guess i'm lucky like that) is already working as intended.
Cool. Let them iron out the service and flesh out the QOL bullshit for the next five months, and I'm ready to dive in.
EDIT: I just saw that RDR2 renders at 1440p and runs at 30 fps. My dreams of 4K / 60 fps Cyberpunk have just been dashed. Google get your shit together and don't ruin this dream for me. =[
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Oh this is bad, wonder can I still cancel my preorder!? 😅
Google is NUTS for this lmao
You make a good point here.
edit - at the end of the day though, physics is physics. No matter how hard you try, you can't make a signal travel faster than the speed of light. People were joking about this argument somehow being reductive, but now they're crying so haha
Difference is, unlike Pokemon, the mainstream doesn't know Stadia exists.
You can't afford to completely fumble the launch if you're a new comer.
I don't know how anyone can have enough confidence in this to blow money on full price games, knowing it'll likely all go up in smoke.
I don't know how anyone can have enough confidence in this to blow money on full price games, knowing it'll likely all go up in smoke.
Latency is the least of this service's problems. If anything it's a relief to see that the technology itself seems to be viable. Bodes well for xCloud.
There were a lot of "Negative Latency" claims flying around and people citing some (admittedly very cool) emulator tricks that help achieve it.
Those emulator tactics really trade on the fact that the host system is much faster than the emulated platform tho so it never really seemed applicable. And lo and behold.
I let out an extremely audible laugh while at work. Worth it.
It seems worse than I expected, anyways.
+40 ms or so latency over Xbox version of games
Intermittent macroblocking due to transient network conditions (to be fair this is almost certainly unavoidable)
Destiny running at 1080p PC medium settings, more or less, on a "4k" stream
RDR2 at 1440p/30
I've said this in multiple other threads, but streaming isn't the problem here - Stadia is. You can stream games at 1440p or 4K right now using Shadow, and the video quality is noticeably better than any of the Stadia screenshots I've seen.
This is an image taken straight from a stream of Gears 5.
Man I feel like I'm preaching to an audience of no one! I keep telling people about Shadow and how amazing it is. On top of the streaming working really well, you are actually getting a VM of a windows machine. So you get immediate access to your backlog of Steam, EGS, Origin, etc. And if you don't own anything through those stores, well now if you buy games through them and then decide to cancel your account to build a gaming PC or whatever, you still get access to your games because you own them through those stores not a closed store like Stadia.
It boggles my mind to this very day how easily people believe corporate marketing.
Checked out DF comparison images. Just as I expected prior to release, Stadia image quality is abysmal. And that's just one negative aspect out of many... meh.
The stadia screenshots are cherry picked to be fair. As is this.I've said this in multiple other threads, but streaming isn't the problem here - Stadia is. You can stream games at 1440p or 4K right now using Shadow, and the video quality is noticeably better than any of the Stadia screenshots I've seen.
This is an image taken straight from a stream of Gears 5.
When it comes to game streaming for all of the ones I used you will get that softer blurry look as your connection weakens occasionally or all the time if you are playing on a trash connection. I have no doubt this service does it as well.
