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Stadia opens a new studio led by Shannon Studstill, former Santa Monica head and executive producer of God of War (2018)
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What similar reasons? Stadia is 1080p on the free tier (so better than xCloud) and devs aren't pulling their games. You could totally lose access to games if they closed the whole thing down but that's a little different to publishers literally yanking their games from the service after you've bought them. That (thankfully!) hasn't happened on Stadia yet. And if it did I assume you'd be good for a refund seeing as Google own the platform. Nvidia aren't refunding you for Steam games.
You still have the games though, you're comparing two entirely different forms of withdrawal. If you lost it on Stadia that's way worse than losing a game you own on Steam from Nvidia, because you didn't lose the game, just the means to play it with (which can be replaced)
Wouldn't expect you to lose games on Stadia unless the service goes down though, at least not the ones you purchased there.
Yeah, you're definitely right. Me, as a hypothetical MacBook Air user enjoying GeForce Now, don't get much out of owning Cyberpunk on Steam though if they decided to pull it (which was probably a bad choice of an example games because they seem ALL IN on GeForce Now and Stadia and everything else...)
Let's hope that none of these dystopian scenarios happen!
You should put a number on forever. There have been several improvements made to Stadia since launch and no one should expect for that to slow down this year, especially after they enable their free subscription and YouTube integration. Their biggest limitations right now is the library of games and that the Base Subscription is not out yet. Out of the 120 games they announced to come out this year, they should focus hard on the library of third party games that will launch for next gen consoles, as well as having a good % of the games integrate Stadia exclusive features. The problem I see with the perception a lot of people have with Stadia is that they compare it to a traditional console launch. With a tradicional console launch, the library of games, price, how fast you can sell them, are extremely important. It is obvious that if a console fails on all of these points at launch, retailers will stop accepting it. If a console is not selling the game stops right there.
Stadia in comparison was launched as an MVP, designed to grow from a basic service with the minimum required to work. This is not like a console that you buy and if it sucks you sell it and it is very unlikely for you to buy it again. Stadia as a service will simply keep evolving whether you liked it or hated it at first. Today you might have terrible latency because the closest data center is too far away, that could change in the following months/years if they open one that is closer to you. Today their game library might suck and tomorrow they might have most of the games you would like to play. If they do get to improve the service enough in order for you to go back, you don't have to buy a console in order to use the service again. If your neighbor buys a game on Stadia and you try it and it works perfect for you, right there you just go to the Stadia app and buy the same game to start playing it in seconds. Compared to consoles, the friction of entry is almost non existent. I too would say that it is more likely for Microsoft to be on top of the cloud gaming race by the end of next year, but this is only the beginning of a new way to play games, that will increase in popularity over the next few years and companies are still finding out what will be the most popular business model. There is a reason why Microsoft has already said that they consider Amazon and Google their main competition, they understand how big the cloud gaming services will become. Eventually the number of people playing cloud games will make traditional consoles sales look small in comparison.
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And here I thought you typically try to get out of a sinking ship, not get it and sit for several years.
Best of luck though, you'll need it.
Best of luck though, you'll need it.
She doesn't have much more to prove in her career I imagine. If she can find something that pays her well and gives her a better work-life balance, then I can understand why she would jump at it.
Given how much Cory likes Yumi and talks about her, it's rest assured he's not going anywhere now.
Stadia has performance/IQ issues despite being in 1080p, and Stadia likely isn't long for this world as a platform. Nvidia is a supplement to games you own and play locally, so even is something is removed from the service you can still play it and you still own it. Games purchased on Stadia are stuck on Stadia. Stadia's library is also terrible.
This was my thought as well. That scene where they were talking about work/life balance, and she's just like, I don't wanna talk about this right now.
They made one of the defining games of this generation, but you can see the toll it took on them. Cory looks to have aged at least 10 years in that five year period haha. He's still handsome though :p
Not to weigh in on the question of when or if Stadia will shut down, but hiring a big name to run a studio is hardly dispositive to that question either way. Ask Amy Hennig how her EA studio is doing.
It will probably happen in a few weeks. Who else is with me?
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Google, you gotta get games in the pipeline BEFORE you 'soft' launch the 'console'/storefront, eesh. Granted, hindsight is 20/20, but still....
Hopefully everything goes well, though.
Hopefully everything goes well, though.
I mean, they built two first party studios just now developing new IPs and acquired one other. It's going to take years for those games to come out, when they should have been built/acquired them years ago so they'd be ready for Stadia's launch.
Basically it's the equivalent of, "we have something cooking, please wait..." for a few years.
Should I ask her just when she was hired or 3 and a half years years after that? Because it seems that Stadia just opened the studio...
Anyone who thinks Google is going to shut this down anytime soon has no idea what they are talking about.
Staying alive and being a great gaming platform are two different things. What happened to those Amazon studios?
The goal posts just keep moving for Stadia commitment here.
They have the platform and are creating studios from the ground up to leverage that platform.
I, too, go shopping for my Thanksgiving turkey on Black Friday.
Don't do this.
Yes. However a new game from a new studio will be a few years out. Stadia could completely fall apart before that. It's a sign they want to try, it's not a sign that they will not completely close doors.
The studio could also switch and just end up releasing the game on PC.
Sorry on mobile, didn't mean to quote anyone with my reply.
Think of executive producer as the single highest person on a project. They can have no direct design input, or absolute input on anything, as they can mandate for certain things to be done and to not be done. Different people work differently.
They guide the overall high level vision and execution of a project. They have the ultimate right to say, this game must have X feature, and it is up to the directors affected, be that design, audio, art, tech, to figure out how to accomplish that.
We've known they were founding at least one in-house studio since before launch.
I think a conversation of where this action falls on the commitment-o-meter is kinda fruitless, but it's also worth a mention that, if these studios are being created to create large-budget Stadia experiences, you're looking at at-least four years before either of them produce anything for Stadia's platform (taking into account time spent staffing up core vacancies, etc.).
And of course, if we want to talk commitment, it's worth noting that founding your own studio is also CHEAPER and a far lower risk than spending millions up-front to buy studio infrastructure, then playing a longer game of those acquisitions becoming profitable. If these studios closed six months from now, all Google would be out-of-pocket is basically whatever they paid them in salaries (the office can be repurposed). That's not the case if you spent $200 million on a studio, then shuttered it six months later.
So from that perspective, while it obviously doesn't speak to an outright LACK of commitment, it certainly indicates that Google may still be very unsure about whether they are in the gaming business long-term.
In the run up to Stadia's release, the lack of any notable financial investment in studios - at a time in 2017-2018 when Microsoft (a key rival) were on a veritable shopping spree for them - was always the biggest red flag for me, about Google's commitment make Stadia a success. Microsoft founded The Initiative in early 2018, but they also went out and acquired studios that wouldn't need any time to "spin-up".
Maybe Google can try to make it as 3rd party dev too then if they think it is worth it. Would be much better than shuttering the studios.
Damn she musr have gotten such an amazing offer to go there. Since she already had one of the highest positions of a single studio in the world. And with God of War's huge recognition she rose to stardom! (Also watch the free documentary Raising Kratos on YouTube which tells the whole GOW 2018 story, which she helmed).
Good luck to her, but I wonder who can fill her shoes as well as she did. I doubt Cory wants to, but perhaps the pay increase might be the thing to do it for him. Hopefully, he still has a lot of influence on GOW 2.
Good luck to her, but I wonder who can fill her shoes as well as she did. I doubt Cory wants to, but perhaps the pay increase might be the thing to do it for him. Hopefully, he still has a lot of influence on GOW 2.
The tech did not exist for them yet. As mentioned Stadia is not a typical console launch
They also cancelled one of their announced games and laid off employees a while ago. New World also isn't without its controversies so Amazon Games Studios still has a lot to prove.
This was likely an incredible opportunity for her in terms of:
- Financial aspect
- Clean slate to create showcase projects as you please on a new platform
Seems win/win. Even in the (likely) case Stadia fails to move the needle, she won't be at fault and can bounce back probably to anywhere in gaming she'd like to go with offers overfilling her mailbox.
- Financial aspect
- Clean slate to create showcase projects as you please on a new platform
Seems win/win. Even in the (likely) case Stadia fails to move the needle, she won't be at fault and can bounce back probably to anywhere in gaming she'd like to go with offers overfilling her mailbox.