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Stadia opens a new studio led by Shannon Studstill, former Santa Monica head and executive producer of God of War (2018)
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I mean, clearly it is. People keep joking about this, but they are literally making investments here now for a longer haul. Just saying, damned if they do damned if they don't kinda thing here.
Given Amazon Studios has 2 upcoming game releases on SteamDB right now, it's too early to speak of their failures.
Yet.
Google really did not plan this through, an executive must have only just remembered they have a proper gaming division now.
"Oh yeah, someone give those guys over at recreational more money"
"Oh yeah, someone give those guys over at recreational more money"
I doubt it will be around in the long haul. Even the marketing points to that.
google senior exec salaries are 500-700k/yr with bonuses on top of that. if she manages to pivot into a different role, stock would start to vest at the 2-3yr mark.
she knows what she's doing...
the highest paid people at game studios are typically on 2-300k, MAX, not including outright owners/independent ones with a separate source of revenue. there's a good chance she comfortably doubled her already comfortable salary.
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I think its fine to predict that, or have that hunch. But its really weird to make that prediction, then fire off at them when they take an action in the real world that defies your prediction... That's just bizarre. Opening and establishing studios to deliver exclusive content for their platform is exactly what people said they would need to even make the platform viable. Now they do it and its ... "Why u do dis?"
Stadia is a streaming service. Its "power" comes from the datacenter backing it. Saying "PS5/XBOX" is more powerful is like saying your laptop is more powerful than Amazon's EC2 service. It doesn't make sense...
You do that before launch, not after. Imagine the og Xbox without Halo and other exclusives at launch only for them to start acquiring games and studios after launch. It would have been a flop.
It's an interesting feeling because I want devs to thrive but I just hate stadia being streaming only and games being locked to streaming. I love the idea of streaming as a bonus the way Xcloud is being sold, but Iam just never going to jump on the non native gameplay being the place I want to play..at least not this generation
no it doesnt. it's power comes from the nodes that they built a lot of to keep in a datacenter - and they're 11tf running an OS that is hard to optimise for. a datacenter isnt a magical source of power that can be combined at will.
they JUST designed, manufactured and installed this hardware. it's not getting an upgrade any time soon.
An ex SSM did recently join InExile, but he has been at Bioware working on Anthem since late 2018.
Yeah, but the datacenter systems running the Stadia code are powered by a 10.7 TF Vega GPU (which is less powerful than even the rumored 9.2TF PS5), and while those systems in the datacenters can be upgraded at any time (which is the whole point of Stadia) that costs money for Google, and whether or not they decide to upgrade the data center hardware is almost certainly reliant on whether or not they are making enough money to justify it
My guess is that they expect Stadia will inevitably take off eventually if they stick around long enough for the internet to become fast/reliable enough for everyone and for it to have enough games. Seems like they're not at all worried about the short term.
Funny thing that was basically "mockup" from design studio, and there was no intention to put Dreamcast or ET there :) But people at Google put it "as is" :)I doubt it will be around in the long haul. Even the marketing points to that.
Then why they killed so many services and sold Moto and Boston Dynamics?
confirmed that Yumi Yang is taking her place at SMS. Great pick
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Sony Names New Head of Santa Monica Studio - IGN
Sony Santa Monica names 19-year veteran Yumi Yang as new studio head after Shannon Studstill joined Google Stadia's new studio.
I'm not saying it's invincible, but it's clearly not a one year project like many predict.
If anyone here saw the Raising Kratos documentary you could tell the development of GoW was very difficult for her, best of luck on the new studio.
Good luck to her, but, as a fan of her previous work, this is pretty disappointing for me. Not a fan of anything involved with Stadia.
I've read multiple ppl make the same assumption, but Google is a publicly traded company. They can't lose money on Stadia forever.
More importantly, it's not like Microsoft is standing still until this studio releases a game in 2025. I think a good analogy is Disney+ vs Netflix. Imagine if Disney+ launched without any Marvel, Pixar, or Star Wars movies and Mandalorian didn't come out until 2023. Now imagine if Disney owned none of those IPs and planned to create both content and an audience for that content after launching the service. Why on Earth would anyone subscribe?
Internet infrastructure isn't relevant, which is why Nvidia was able to leapfrog them when they gave ppl what they've been asking for: the ability to stream a bunch of games. The only way I think Stadia exists in a couple of years is if it starts purchasing exclusive streaming rights to games ppl already play immediately.
I guess the difference with that analogy is that people don't have to subscribe to Stadia. They don't need a steady stream of exclusives etc to keep people in a monthly subscription. Folks can just buy a game or two. If someone wants to play Cyberpunk or Doom Eternal this year (or one of the Stadia exclusives like this) and they don't have the hardware for it, they can just buy them from Stadia and play them without a sub. That's not really analogous with a new service that needs to attract and maintain monthly subscribers. Players don't need to commit to this over that because it's just buying a game. It's not buying a game via a sub and losing access if you stop subscribing.
Not to say the futures bright and everything's gonna be gravy. I just don't think a comparison with a subscription service is the right one.
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Hoping that she got a plush deal and can just feed off Google's largess while taking it easy for a few years.
All your favs getting the heck out of Sony the last year.
Shannon is a legend and has been through it all and is one of the main reasons the studio rebounded the way it did after GoW:A. A big loss for SSM . Great get for google but I still dont trust their gaming push.
Shannon is a legend and has been through it all and is one of the main reasons the studio rebounded the way it did after GoW:A. A big loss for SSM . Great get for google but I still dont trust their gaming push.
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Tbf Google has Jade Raymond leading their first-party efforts so I have some faith that Google's first-party studios will actually ship games in a timely manner
You're right, it's not an apples to apples comparison, which is part of the issue. I don't think most ppl realize they're not the "Netflix of Games™" without a subscription model. Additionally, if the choice is between buying 1-2 games on Stadia or doing something similar via Nvidia or xCloud with way more games options, then why would they choose Google?
If you asked me that question a year ago, I would've answered that Google was first to the market and so familiarity. ~6 months and 30 available games later and it's hard to imagine significant numbers of ppl purchasing Doom Eternal or Cyberpunk on that platform.
Because xCloud is 720p and streams from Xbox One S blades and GeForce Now keeps losing devs/games. Doom Eternal won't be on it, along with the entire Bethesda catalogue. Luckily I've got a decent(ish!) PC rig but if I didn't have any PC hardware I probably wouldn't buy games to solely play via GeForce Now. I'd be constantly worried about losing access to them.
I get your point though and I personally doubt that many people are going to be choosing to invest in the Stadia system despite the things we've mentioned. I'm a user of all three of the above and I think they've all got pros and cons but, at the end of the day, none of the pros are gonna matter if the service (whichever one) dies and is closed down.
Yeah I don't see why anyone would buy a game on Stadia as it stands now. Performance is worse than console in many cases, library is paltry, support roadmap is bleak.
If Google wants to invest in game development then fine, but I doubt Stadia will still be a viable platform in 3-4 years when this studio (and Typhoon) has something to show.
Right but you wouldn't buy them on Stadia either for similar reasons. That's their point. You would just buy them on Steam or console to play locally and have better performance.