What makes you think its going to have all the games steam has? Publishers have to specifically release their games on Stadia, this will involve new licensing deals, etc. It's never gonna have all the games steam has.
Same, I've been buying these consoles for decades and would love something that could change the cycle.
It'll have to become *very* popular for a dev to design a game *for* Stadia. More likely they'll just keep making games for a broader public, ie for Consoles + PC + Stadia. It's built for the lowest common denominator, ie consoles currently.
Best and most level-headed post in the thread, maybe even on the whole board. Thank you for taking your time posting! :)
the issue is youre only thinking in the graphical sense. games are built for jaguar CPUs. so again there's not really anything you'd be playing on stadia that is a taste of next gen. it's all stuff that plays exactly the same on ps4 and xbox one
Well, yeah. 10+ TF with ray-tracing capabilities isn't something a core PC gamer is drooling about. Multiplats will look and run better on a PC you can buy today and even better on a PC you're buying next year. But there will absolutely pop up impressive games that excites everyone no matter how powerful their PC is. RDR2 is still the most impressive game I've ever seen and I've only played it on the Xbox One X.
The guy said almost nothing positive about Stadia except that he thinks it's something interesting to play with between consoles and that it might be capable of make him able to game in the living room instead of his office. A Steam link could've done that. Aside from that he listed a bunch of groups that wouldn't have any use for it.
Because the alternative is buying a new $400 console just because you want to play a new hot game people are talking about. I meet people almost daily who think some games looks awesome and would want to play them but aren't interested in gaming enough to invest in a new console.
Right, but why would the casual-non gamers give any fucks or notice any difference between 4k vs 1080p. Like, if they dont even play videogames, and are marginally interested in games occasionally maybe, a monthly sub for 4k videogames doesn't make much sense either, they'd probably be fine with the "free" 1080p stereo version.
In short he was surprised that people was so threatened by it and he wasn't scared to try it out himself and see what it's all about. I'm the same. I have no idea if it'll be great but I'll be there day 1 trying this new exciting tech for myself instead of just listening to some jaded gamers who moan and complain about milliseconds of latency on something they've likely never even touched. And I'm always online and I have really fast internet and the nearest Google server is almost close enough for me to see it. I see no reason at all to not try it.
It was a comparison for the image quality. Not everyone who use Netflix see the need for Premium. Not everyone who use Stadia will see the need for Pro. You're essentially getting a free always up to date "console" with free online gaming, having to buy games full price will be no issue. And there is always UPlay+ for those who want to subscribe to a library of games. More services will likely come if Stadia becomes popular.
Um, what? Moaning and complaining about milliseconds of latency? You make it sound like youre just brushing aside latency concerns. The tests digital foundry did reveal pretty significant latency from the beta, even if they've improved it a bit, it will absolutely still be a deal breaker for a lot of people. The difference between 20ms and 40ms is absolutely perceptible to me, and Stadia seems to add significantly more input lag than that. Like, if Stadia adds even just an extra 30ms, that's a huge deal breaker for me, no way in hell.
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I'm 200Mbps up and down and being in the Netherlands there's no doubt going to be servers near me. I tried weighing the pro's and con's because of Orcs Must Die! 3 but next to no pro's for me and some very significant negatives. If the game comes out for anywhere over 40 I may just wait out the exclusivity period or see if it happens to come along in the monthly sub because I struggle to see why I'd spend even that on the service, and that's still accepting I'd be fine with the quality the free sub offers.
The test DF did on AC Odyssey actually showed identical latency as AC Odyssey running natively on Xbox One X. Have you played that and what did you think about it? Personally I have zero issues, I've even played it on a projector which adds another layer of latency, still no problems for me.
Uh, the article I read by DF has AC odyssey with about 35 extra ms from the xbox one X, and 66ms extra than running the game at 60fps on PC. We are certainly in deal breaker latency territory for me here. If you dont mind, thats great, but it's odd to act like nobody else knows what they're talking about, like none of us have messed around with different displays, game modes, and latencies and can tell the difference. People aren't just pulling numbers out of their ass.
Multiplatform, sure. Though that generally means PC games that are also on PS/Xb (often indies). Are we expecting any of the MS/PS exclusives to be coming to stadia anytime soon? Those are likely to be the frontrunners in the first few years of a new console generation.
