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Get the fucking military and police off the street. These animals are insane. Que se meta su migajas por el culo ladron qlo piñera.
Me too man. Some shit is happening around here. I can't see but I hear it.
Sorry double post.
Ooof that picture of the head wound. NSFL.
Fuck every single government motherfucker who enables this shit.
Fuck every single government motherfucker who enables this shit.
This is awful. I keep thinking back to spending new years in the middle of the streets of Santiago and how friendly and happy everyone was. Jesus.
It's like every time I reload the page the bodycount gets higher :/
Who is there to apply pressure on Piñera from outside? Bolsonaro? Trump? I can't see anyone helping, the Pope maybe?
This senseless violence makes me sick. Do these soldiers not realize they are killing their brothers? How brainwashed are they, or how fucked up were they in the first place? Is there no screening done and the army ended up filled with psychopaths?
Who is there to apply pressure on Piñera from outside? Bolsonaro? Trump? I can't see anyone helping, the Pope maybe?
This senseless violence makes me sick. Do these soldiers not realize they are killing their brothers? How brainwashed are they, or how fucked up were they in the first place? Is there no screening done and the army ended up filled with psychopaths?
It definitely shouldn't be something any of you are required to do, but any time you can translate or give context to the tweets it does help people like me keep up. Again, I realize you shouldn't cater to us, but just in the interest of spreading the word.
This dumbass is fucked and it's slowly dawning on him. After all the violence he and the military have unleashed I can't see Chileans accepting anything he might offer other than his resignation. And that's for starters because the people are going to demand justice.
Imagine knowing that your father, brother, cousin or boyfriend is out there, beating people senselessly with their batons, opening fire and straight up commiting murder or innocent, unarmed people.
How would you even look at them? Knowing they're capable of being that evil and having no regard to human rights or life?
A la mierda los pinches militares. Coman mierda culeros.
How would you even look at them? Knowing they're capable of being that evil and having no regard to human rights or life?
A la mierda los pinches militares. Coman mierda culeros.
I can totally understand you. You grew yo during the Dictatorship, saw the hope of the 90s going into the realization of the 2000s that we were not gonna get better and the downfall into this.
This Is different, we can now scream in this endless void of the internet. We can actually protect each other in some ways you couldn't before.
This Is for you, and everyone who isn't here. Stay safe. Don't expose yourself, but don't silence yourself either. Anything you need, scream! Also, join us in the chilean hangout in case you need something.
They are trained by those that were in Pinochet's Time, or by those trained during that Time. It's their doctrine.
Will do! The idea of this thread, and our push yo get It pinned, it's because otherwise It wouldn't be covered. And (sorry to Bring geopolíticas) since Chile Is a Close US Ally, it's hard to be covered. OEA hasnt done shit for us, for example.
By sharing what's happening here, and gathering awareness, you are helping prevent a 1973 Situation.
Thank you. I wish I could do more. I was in Santiago over New Years and then went to Puerto Natales to hike and then back to Santiago for awhile. I met so many nice Chileans including a scientist who we hiked with for 7 days who is now the UK. I learned so much about your country and I really loved so many parts of it. I'm so sorry this is happening.
Nobody. To those with power "Piñera is a bastard but he is OUR bastard. Enacting IMF policies (or trying to)". They'd rather have him than anyone else that is more... left leaning, someone who cares about people.
This is fucking insane.
At this point how is it possible to remove the police and military from the street? They are just killing machines.
At this point how is it possible to remove the police and military from the street? They are just killing machines.
Nothing but dead silence from governments around the world regarding the situation in Chile. Its sickening.
Agreed. There is no 'return to normal' after everything he is responsible for
Agreed. There is no 'return to normal' after everything he is responsible for
good luck with that. one death is already bad but that number is way over what has actually has happen. for not chilean posters, deaths caused by military and police are being investigated by prosecutors from the judicial system (not the military one) and there are already three soldiers that have been prosecuted and currently under investigation. there has been some deaths by fire of people looting and that couldnt get out of the building. yesterday a drunk driver went through a street full of people protesting and killed two persons (for example). one person was runned over by a military vehicle and so on.
as people can already tell chile still is a pretty polarized country, even in this thread im reading poster using the word "genocide".
there is bullshit spreading and panic from both sides, as always happens in this situations.
that said, social changes needed to happen.
right now is running on twitter based on a supossed report of the interamerican human rights comission (CIDH). but there is no trace of said report, link or actual paper. im sure that when this all clears we will get a better picture of what actually happened (deaths, injured, abuse, etc). but baseless claims only contribute to panic.
Yeah I'm gonna check on this because it seems a bit high
The problem Is that reports are different, for example goverment said 15 while National Human Rights Institute said "at least" 18. But that was a couple of days ago.
To my own account, a few deaths have been appointed to "looting", which Is posible (those that died in fires, one electrocuted.) But people Close to the events are questioning It. We saw how the military tried to cover tortures AND killing in 1973, so we can't know for sure the burnt bodies and electrocuted Is parte of that or not.
The guy that ran over a multitude killing two, was a drunk driver say witness. One dead in alleged self defense too, who went to the police to confess. So that's 3 "civilian" deaths, Human Rights Institute say at least 5 Dead via military for whom they are pressing charges, 3 sexual violations
There are people that aren't in the official list, AND people that dissapeared and not one official addressing there either
So "42" seems high, but not far off what really happens.
They are enjoying it. They were caged dogs, now unleashed. They are kids with guns playing the hero.
Traitors, shooting and torturing their own people. The worst scum.
Yeah, death toll seems that's way unconfirmed to be stated that's 42.
Numbers are quite off though
These are numbers from the National Human Rights Institute as of TODAY October 23th
5 Deaths by military force (that are confirmed via multiple sources, including officials)
269 Injured just in protests, 137 by gunshots.
1,894 arrested
30 total legal actions taken by them, 3 of them being Sexual abuse to women by state agents.
To this, add those that died in burnings and looting instances, some of them still aren't know their identities. Add reports of missing people. There are more reports of people dying but let's stay with this official number.
Numbers are quite off though
These are numbers from the National Human Rights Institute as of TODAY October 23th
5 Deaths by military force (that are confirmed via multiple sources, including officials)
- Romario Veloz, La Serena,gunshot to the neck;
- Alex Núñez, Maipú (RM), beaten with sticks in the head and torax.
- Kevin Gómez, Coquimbo, shot by military.
- Manuel Rebolledo Navarrete, Talcahuano, ran over by military car.
- José Miguel Uribe Antipán, Curicó, shot by military.
269 Injured just in protests, 137 by gunshots.
1,894 arrested
30 total legal actions taken by them, 3 of them being Sexual abuse to women by state agents.
To this, add those that died in burnings and looting instances, some of them still aren't know their identities. Add reports of missing people. There are more reports of people dying but let's stay with this official number.
So all the videos of the Military shooting at someone. Is the news sugggesting they arent killing but merely scaring people? I find it hard to believe its 20 or less. What about what seems to be a video where they are pulling or piling bodies together in the middle of the day? Edit: dont quote me on this. It was a tweet and maybe they just had detained a bunch of people in the street but since the video if from far away, you cant tell. Sorry dont mean to spread any false info.
Honestly I dont understand what the hell is going on. Is the military killing people without prejudice or not? Obviously not in a mass scale but it seems they are. I mean they shot a dude on the leg just cause. Am I to believe they arent doing more horrible shit around the city?
I'm asking in general. The jump from 18 to 45 is huge and believable at this point. I just hope it doesn't get out of hand. I really feel bad for the people of Chile.
Just one guy said genocide. 42 is an unofficial number right now, but given all the shit that has happened, It wouldn't be far off.
And cut the shit with "both sides".
that tweet only mentions 5 deaths provocated by state agents.
ok so now mods are warning me. guess im out of this thread. last thing im going to say is that an unconfirmed number that has no base should not be on the title of the thread. i thought that facts were important in this kind of topics but i guess im wrong.
Btw, 42 death as in "died in general" not by the military alone.
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Some of them are shooting salva bullets, injured people.
But multiple reports of live ammunition are true too.
Those bodies some say were unconsious people.
But to tell you the truth, we don't even know for real everything, there's a lot of cover up taking place. Interior Subsecretary Minister said that some were under prohibition of speaking, which is Ilegal and journalists are questioning while the public prosecutiong is denying this is real.
Last night some students that are part of the communist students youths and other student organization were taken out of a residential building and is being investigated. This was already confirmed by trusted journalists.
So that gives you an idea that we CAN'T know everything for sure. The numbers I posted are the closer we can have to independent confirmation, and there are still things that are being investigated.