If this was amateur or youth sport, I agree. That's disrespectful.
As far as professional and especially elite sport goes, I think this is ridiculous.
As far as professional and especially elite sport goes, I think this is ridiculous.
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Sports needs to get rid of "Unwritten Rules"
- Thread starter CrankyJay
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It's a stupid "rule" and an even worse idea. I think it's considerably worse for the winning team to just "give up" because they know you don't have a chance at victory, so they just pitty you and play around with you. It's patronizing & degrading. "Hey, we know you suck, so we intentionally held back & goofed around to because we're so good and you're so bad it didn't even matter."
Hit those homers, kid.
Hit those homers, kid.
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These are professional sports where the players are making tens of millions, not some dad league weekend exercise session. It's not the other team's fault that you suck so much.
Seems patronising and even less sporting to ease off on the other team to give them more of a chance, especially in a pro setting. If a kids team is getting demolished, coach screaming at the losers on their team, kids crying uncontrollably while at the plate, then yeah...tell your players to ease off a bit. In a pro setting, then this sort of stuff is stupid, barring an injury and a player stopping play to allow another to get treatment.
If the Rangers didn't want them scoring any more and didn't feel like they could come back and win, they could have forfeited and ended the game.
What are you supposed to do - not win so much? Make another team feel better by letting them come back? Use stupid time-wasting techniques or play bench scrubs? That seems even more insulting.
The reason I like esports so much is you can GG out.
I don't think this really should be a situation to cause this discussion. I think he didn't do anything wrong. I have no problem with unwritten rules, I just don't think there is one here. Like I don't think it is ever really implied that you must take on 3-0 up x amount of runs.
I mean, it's like running up the score in any other sport. At the professional level, it's your job to stop the other team. Or, in this case, don't throw him a hittable ball. It would be different if the other team was out of pitchers and down to someone who doesn't normally pitch, but that's about the only scenario where this makes sense.
Nah, screw that. You're playing to win & more, to win championships. Break the other teams spirits. Beat the hell out of them. The Avalanche dropped 7 goals on an obviously out-matched Coyotes team yesterday; they ran the score up at will basically. You're not playing to make friends; you're being paid to win. I'm sure the manager would've been super pissed if the other team came back to win with a miracle final inning.
This too. When these unwritten rules regarding bat flipping, swinging on 3-0, etc. come up, 95% of the time it is a Latino player who has committed the "infraction" and white dudes who are pissed about it.
For non-baseball fans, it's the fact that he swung on a 3-0 pitch that is the issue. If the count had literally been anything different, nobody would have cared. This breaks a couple of unwritten rules, one based on sportsmanship and the other on game tactics. Running up the score has always been the most/least egregious unwritten rule broken because it feels like disrespect but everyone knows the point of the game is to score points so actually most players can wash that one off. Swinging at a 3-0 pitch against a wild pitcher is actually more objectionable to the team that did it. It's more likely that you would walk in a run for doing nothing and get an rbi than it would be to hit a grand slam. So essentially you are pissing off the other team's pitchers (the ones who have the best way to retaliate against you) and not really getting anything other than stats out of the deal.
The player's own manager is pissed because whether or not you like unwritten rules, what Tatis did did not help his team, and there's a possibility he gets plunked next time he comes up to bat, which could possibly take him out of the lineup. That's why his own manager wasn't happy.
The player's own manager is pissed because whether or not you like unwritten rules, what Tatis did did not help his team, and there's a possibility he gets plunked next time he comes up to bat, which could possibly take him out of the lineup. That's why his own manager wasn't happy.
This isn't an amateur game where people are just playing for fun. They're professionals, grown-ass men getting paid for their skill. If they're bad at it and get trounced then they need to play better. That's on them. I find the "sportsmanship" arguments kind of silly.
I get that it's rarely fun to watch one team run up the score on another, but this is literally their job and I'm never going to fault a player for being good at their job. Even when it's my team being trounced (and I'm a Bills fan) I don't see the point in getting mad at the team that's playing the game well.
They're adults, they'll get over it.
I get that it's rarely fun to watch one team run up the score on another, but this is literally their job and I'm never going to fault a player for being good at their job. Even when it's my team being trounced (and I'm a Bills fan) I don't see the point in getting mad at the team that's playing the game well.
They're adults, they'll get over it.
Fr. This just seems childish to boo somebody for kicking your shit because y'all been sucking it up. There's going to be a loser regardless. But then again I've taken my L in strides whenever I got stomped in sports in real life.
Adebayor don't care.
Footballers/Soccer players don't seem to care in general and I absolutely love the game for it.
There is the respect for the opponent, but teams will not hesitate to keep scoring. As a fan of playing the sport, its easy to understand why. It stops becoming about beating your opponent and starts becoming about doing beautiful things with your teammates. Unfortunately for opposing teams, most beautiful things in Football usually end in a goal.
Like Bayern's 8-2 thumping of Barcelona is huge, but when you watch the game you can see that Bayern don't disrespect Barcelona or look to humilate them, they're just on another level and completely in the zone.
"Guy who hit a grand slam did not help his team" is a WILD take lmao
Unless he was being purposefully walked, he did nothing wrong.
Running up the score is a little wack, but that pitcher could have just not thrown him a meatball?
Goals and how much you win by matter in soccer a lot more than most sports.
I like the Bench tweet more.
Bob Gibson was an ardent supporter of the unwritten rules.
Edit: I agree with you that today it is largely a racial issue fueled by the desire to preserve the games sanctity (whatever the fuck that means) and to prevent people from enjoying themselves (showboating).
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I can understand why the batter's team would be annoyed at their own player swinging at a 3-0 pitch with the bases loaded. I have no idea why the opposing team's pitchers would be mad about it.
did the other team ever think of trying to win the game? like, maybe don't throw a grand slammable pitch? :V
i laughed and then cried :(
He almost certainly didn't have a green light to swing on a 3-0 pitch in that situation, so he will probably be fined internally.
You know its bullshit, because if he grounds into a double play there, the announcers are calling him an idiot for swinging 3-0, and we're not having this conversation today. His own manager would probably get on him for it, but that's about it.
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I can understand his own managaer getting upset for not doing the "smart" play and going for a walk, but why is the other team mad lol. Feelings hurt I suppose.
Thats actually not allowed in baseball contracts. They can offer performance bonuses based on playing time (number of games played/innings pitched) but not on actual achievement (homeruns hit, strikeouts, wins, ect...)
No one likes getting embarrassed but don't mind being on the other end of it
Ah yes, using violence to protect fragile egos. That's the true meaning of sportsmanship.
This would've been perfect. Baseball has too many snowflakes for who cry about stupid shit like this. If you don't want someone to hit a grand slam, be better.
This. Basketball, football, etc... all have a clock, so running up the score is petty. Baseball has no timer, so in theory, the Rangers could just never strike or catch out and score 50 runs if they wanted to.
That is stupid, i hate in Football(soccer) when a team is winning by 3 or more goals and they decide that's enough, then you get boring football for the rest of the game, fuck that. Everyone should play the german way.
They might as well just bring in a mercy rule if you're not supposed to score any more runs.
