Yeah, Vegeta very much took on a co-star role in Super and I'm here for it. As a character, I prefer him over Goku, but of course, Goku gets the better fights most of the time, so there's that.
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(Spoilers) Vegeta's final atonement
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No because he's popular.
All the times he helped them was out of his own self-interests/survival. And Cell was really his fault. To be honest, Vegeta never really redeems himself but the characters and the audience get over it.
This, even when watching this when it first aired in the states I was like "you caused this though!" Your dumbass pride was the main cause for his resurrection. And let's not forget he also killed a bunch of crowd people at the tournament and people in the city just hours before this.
If he was like his Super self from the beginning(when they return to earth) I would liked him more; but causing 2/3 major villains in Z will always be a stain on his record...and that was before him being a genocidal servant of Frieza.
yes its well established death doesn't mean shit in this universe.
That being said, I always thought it was dumb Vegeta got to keep his body and everything. Reminded me of Anakin getting to become a force ghost.
Dude does countless heinous act. Killed millions. Has one moment of self sacrifice and all is forgiven.
That being said, I always thought it was dumb Vegeta got to keep his body and everything. Reminded me of Anakin getting to become a force ghost.
Dude does countless heinous act. Killed millions. Has one moment of self sacrifice and all is forgiven.
Trunks at least got an entire arc as Future Trunks. Goten just got done dirty.
Goku should have died at the end of the cell saga, vegeta dies in Buu saga
rest of the saga is held down by piccolo, Gohan, goten and trunks.
rest of the saga is held down by piccolo, Gohan, goten and trunks.
I don't think he got to keep his body like, as a reward. In the manga it says Enma kept his body "around" because he thought he might need to use Vegeta to fight Boo. So he was probably still in hell and just put back together when they needed him?
See all of the long lasting decisions made during the Boo saga? Do the opposite of them. The Boo saga is trash that Toriyama shat out because the editors wouldn't leave him alone.
Exactly. I am still pissed that Ultimate Gohan ended up jobbing to Super Buu because we need Goku to defeat the villain instead.
It was an impactful moment for me as a kid watching it on Cartoon Network.
The rollout of the show was painfully slow back then. I really had no idea what came next. It seemingly felt like ages til the next season kicked back up again.
But of course, the fact that Majin Buu shrugged it off kinda cheapens the impact. About as useful as Chiaotzu trying to kill Nappa.
The rollout of the show was painfully slow back then. I really had no idea what came next. It seemingly felt like ages til the next season kicked back up again.
But of course, the fact that Majin Buu shrugged it off kinda cheapens the impact. About as useful as Chiaotzu trying to kill Nappa.
Damn, that poll is 50% v 50% right now after I voted Yes.
Currently 80 votes each lol
But yes, he should have stayed dead after that.
Currently 80 votes each lol
But yes, he should have stayed dead after that.
It's a good scene but that would effing suck considering Buu himself isn't truly terrible. Let Vegeta go out for good against something irredeemable, at least.
I've never watched this before and...man what a terribly paced 10 minutes. It felt like a parody of every anime stereotype.
Warning! potential bad take.
Vegeta should've stayed dead after frieza. He really didn't do anything to deserve being brought back to life in the first place.
With that said, I would've preferred if Raditz and Vegeta roles were switched.
Vegeta should've stayed dead after frieza. He really didn't do anything to deserve being brought back to life in the first place.
With that said, I would've preferred if Raditz and Vegeta roles were switched.
Which they could have done with Vegeta too instead of having him a permanent part of the cast.
Vegeta was first though and it's hard enough for Toriyama to focus on more than Goku. Also I don't know but is Trunks more popular than Vegeta? I doubt it.
If it actually worked and he defeated Buu, yes he should have stayed dead. But DBZ kinda wasted that moment so bringing him back and moving on from it was the best choice.