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SPOILERS The Walking Dead TV show leak and comic book thread SPOILERS
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If that rumor is true (and I doubt it is),
it'll be very interesting to see what happens with the television show in a few years. I wonder if the stuff going on with CRM (movies and all) is them planning for when they run out of material to adapt from the comics.
So Kirkman is hoping to resolve everything in 72 pages ? It's gonna be rushed as hell.
I kind of wished he didn't fix things and left it open to readers' interpretation. Kind of like Red Dead Redemption's circle of violence that continues after John's death. Then again, I get giving characters a hopeful note but eh that's kind of lame.
Couldn't disagree more with the poster above. I can't think of a more perfect send-off for the series. A beautiful issue that gives you all of the closure you're looking for, with great insight via a letter to the readers from Kirkman after the last page. Very happy with the ending (if it had to end.) I'm glad in the end that he got to close it out on his terms and that it didn't overstay its welcome (like the show is beginning to.)
Really, really conflicted. Been reading the book since the mid-thirties (around Night of the Hunters) I understand that, ultimately, another group, another threat was just treading old ground, but I enjoyed the comic most when it was slower and more considered... the quieter stuff, diplomacy, character growth, compromise... that kind of stuff. This issue felt like an episode of the show. breathless pace, check-list style plot points, as well as the sensationalised "out of nowhere" ending. I don't think it fits, it feels off. I feel like each of those mini character wrap-ups could have been independent issues, the comic was always allowed to breathe (a luxury the show doesn't get to have) it was always it's greatest strength, it's heart,, and that was stripped from it for this final issue.
On the other hand, I don't what him to keep writing it if he wants to do something else. If he feels like the story is done, then it's done. I just really feel like after all the surprises all the u-turns and blind-siding, every reader would have forgiven the certain amount of "telegraphing" required to have the story coalesce at a more natural pace. Having threads dangling on month only to jump forward and have them all tied up neatly in rows has really left me cold.
On the other hand, I don't what him to keep writing it if he wants to do something else. If he feels like the story is done, then it's done. I just really feel like after all the surprises all the u-turns and blind-siding, every reader would have forgiven the certain amount of "telegraphing" required to have the story coalesce at a more natural pace. Having threads dangling on month only to jump forward and have them all tied up neatly in rows has really left me cold.
I didn't see it that way. It came off like an epilogue to Rick's death and the long-term effects he had on the part of the world he touched. It was like a much better Deathly Hallows epilogue.
Kirkman always said the comic would die with Rick. Didn't think he'd actually do it the way he was writing about the future of the comic even just an issue ago in the letters section.
Really loved the ending.
My local comic shop said they sold my copy that I had on hold, and now its going for $40 on ebay. Cool.
Sold it on the day it came out? Damn you need a new store.
Im just going to assume someone came in and offered them above retail, and they sold it without thinking twice. Sucks. I was just in there yesterday and the guy said he would hold it for a few days no problem. He tried to make an excuse that the demand was too high to hold any.
Nah, fuck that store
Yeah, I loved how much Carl looked like Rick
If you had a pull list, I would cancel every one of them. They pull this shit and don't care about customers.
I'd put them on blast on Yelp. That typically gets their attention to make good.
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I have to give Robert Kirkman props for ending it here - he could have easily kept it going another 16 years and made a ton more $$$. I don't think it would have been compelling though, if this ending (which I really liked) is what he'd be working towards. Dude does not know how to write regular interpersonal drama very well, and that's basically all the comic would be moving forward. In a universe where zombies are more grounded (no animals, no runners/climbers/spitters/jumpers/evolved forms) and no longer a threat, and finding a cure and/or ending the zombie scourge isn't on the table, the remaining dangers are basically - big herds, more dangerous and cruel groups of outsiders, and other large communities that they have to contend with. The former two have already been done to death and the latter would have only been interesting maybe one more time.
I guess the story could have gone west for a time and followed Carl, Sophia, Lydia, Eugene, Stephanie, and maybe a few others as they work on the railroad and meet the Western Alliance, but it just would have been a slight variation on all the beats we've seen before.
This was as good a place as any to wrap things up.
I guess the story could have gone west for a time and followed Carl, Sophia, Lydia, Eugene, Stephanie, and maybe a few others as they work on the railroad and meet the Western Alliance, but it just would have been a slight variation on all the beats we've seen before.
This was as good a place as any to wrap things up.
What an insanely stupid statement.
The ending was perfect. It wasn't rushed at all. If anything it's bittersweet seeing Carl struggling with the new world, missing his father and the conflict in this issue. It's far from "happy". The issue before this has Carl shooting his own father and then breaking down.
At the end of the issue they even include the fake covers for the next issues that were announced to throw everyone off.
It doesn't just suck. It completely defeats the purpose of pull lists from the customers' end.
It's a really good ending. It says exactly what needs to be said, while leaving all the necessary doors open. Not too much, not too little.
What a misguided comment. I bet you didn't even read the issue.
What a misguided comment. I bet you didn't even read the issue.
Yeah, fuck that store. I'd make a scene and tell them to suck it and that I'm taking my business elsewhere, comic readers don't actually need their LCS as much as they need loyal customers. If they simply give away your copy then what's the point?
After reading it, I respect Kirkman for ending it how he did. It's clear that the world still has roamers outside of the expanded safety zone and it's not exactly rainbows and ponies. Carl struggles to adjust to the new world as he continues to mourn and remember the legacy left behind by Rick, Hershel has a grey justification for keeping the roamers, and people still harbor grudges. I thought for sure Carl was going to end up with Lydia but at least this issue showed a bit of sexual tension left behind.
There's a lot that's left open to interpretation that's implied such as Negan's hermit lifestyle, Eugene dealing with loneliness, and kids being ungrateful for the sacrifices made to ensure their world is better. Plus the characters that are still alive have to deal with some kind of scars left behind by the world that forced them to adapt.
That said, I'll agree that the alternate ending with issue #74 did sound quite interesting but I can see why it would have been abrupt. Given how bleak the whole series is, to end it on that note didn't sound quite right but it was fascinating. I think ending it at 193 issues was as good of a place as ever to end it on. Kirkman didn't want to continue to spin his wheels for the sake of it. While it would have been cool to spend more time in the future, there's not much that Kirkman could explore. Either way, it's going to be talked about for years to come.
There's going to be an empty void left by the lack of a TWD to look forward to every month. But there's quite a number of other Image Comics series that are ending soon such as Paper Girls, Skyward, and The Wicked and Divine in addition to Sex Criminals. I'm pretty sure Saga has an end date as well whenever it returns from hiatus. But this is off-topic.
There's a lot that's left open to interpretation that's implied such as Negan's hermit lifestyle, Eugene dealing with loneliness, and kids being ungrateful for the sacrifices made to ensure their world is better. Plus the characters that are still alive have to deal with some kind of scars left behind by the world that forced them to adapt.
That said, I'll agree that the alternate ending with issue #74 did sound quite interesting but I can see why it would have been abrupt. Given how bleak the whole series is, to end it on that note didn't sound quite right but it was fascinating. I think ending it at 193 issues was as good of a place as ever to end it on. Kirkman didn't want to continue to spin his wheels for the sake of it. While it would have been cool to spend more time in the future, there's not much that Kirkman could explore. Either way, it's going to be talked about for years to come.
There's going to be an empty void left by the lack of a TWD to look forward to every month. But there's quite a number of other Image Comics series that are ending soon such as Paper Girls, Skyward, and The Wicked and Divine in addition to Sex Criminals. I'm pretty sure Saga has an end date as well whenever it returns from hiatus. But this is off-topic.
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Man, it's so crazy to think that it's over. Loved the ending. Not everything needs to be bleak and nihilistic, and for a comic book series that was as gut-punchingly brutal as The Walking Dead, I'm glad to see it have a positive and happy ending. In the end, it wasn't all for nothing. All that pain and struggle the survivors went through mattered. Rick's life and death mattered.
As an epilogue to last issue, it felt good. Great length, and I felt like it covered who and what it needed to cover. Very satisfied. What a run. I need to buy the compendiums, but I just don't have anymore room on my bookshelves for more books, so I've been buying my books digitally these days. 😭😭
As an epilogue to last issue, it felt good. Great length, and I felt like it covered who and what it needed to cover. Very satisfied. What a run. I need to buy the compendiums, but I just don't have anymore room on my bookshelves for more books, so I've been buying my books digitally these days. 😭😭
That... was perfect.
I loved it. What a way to go. Going to be weird that after 11 years of following the series (I started in early 2008) that it's gone. All those moments in shock, disbelief and characters dying... jeez. I love that Carl is so happy. Finally, that kid deserved some good vibes. Love the fact that he ends up with Sophia.
I loved it. What a way to go. Going to be weird that after 11 years of following the series (I started in early 2008) that it's gone. All those moments in shock, disbelief and characters dying... jeez. I love that Carl is so happy. Finally, that kid deserved some good vibes. Love the fact that he ends up with Sophia.
Reviving this thread with some spoilers for the Fear the Walking Dead season five finale.
As an aside, it seems like the big change teased at Comic Con that sets up season six may be separate from the Morgan cliffhanger, based on impressions from folks who have seen the episode early. Either the change is the group joining Ginny's people, or something else. There are other rumors floating around that Grace may not actually be who she seems (maybe tied to CRM/the helicopter people?), but they haven't been confirmed yet.
But anyway, they're either setting up a Carl-style death for Morgan that'll happen in S06E01, or they're copying Rick's exit from TWD and moving Morgan to the upcoming movies. Guess we'll find out... next summer. Ugh. But either way, I don't see him staying on Fear... which makes me happy because maybe we'll finally see Alicia become the central character.
The Spoiling Dead Fans said:
As an aside, it seems like the big change teased at Comic Con that sets up season six may be separate from the Morgan cliffhanger, based on impressions from folks who have seen the episode early. Either the change is the group joining Ginny's people, or something else. There are other rumors floating around that Grace may not actually be who she seems (maybe tied to CRM/the helicopter people?), but they haven't been confirmed yet.
But anyway, they're either setting up a Carl-style death for Morgan that'll happen in S06E01, or they're copying Rick's exit from TWD and moving Morgan to the upcoming movies. Guess we'll find out... next summer. Ugh. But either way, I don't see him staying on Fear... which makes me happy because maybe we'll finally see Alicia become the central character.
Morgan going over to the Rick movies would definitely make me happy. His relationship with Rick has always been something I've really loved. But if he really does die than what a shitty fucking end for him. I know most people don't enjoy Morgan as much as I do but I definitely feel as tho he deserved better. His time on fear has just been so fucking disappointing.
Haven't watched any of Fear, but I loved that they expanded his role vs what his character got in the comics.
Yep same here. I never cared for Morgan very much in the comic to be honest. Always thought it was awesome he made it to AOW in the show and got to be apart of that story arc. Morgan and Rick teaming up to kill the saviors in season 8 is one of my favorite moments in the show.
Some spoilers for 10x04, since someone in the season's thread was interested:
Tl;dr: Ezekiel almost commits suicide but is talked out of it by Michonne, and they get a little intimate. Negan saves Lydia from being attacked by some Alexandrians, but he accidentally kills one of them in the process.The Spoiling Dead Fans said: