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Why does it feel like none of the character deaths on this show are ever their own doing? I feel like all of them have been tied to people leaving to do other things or being Darabont alums who wanted out when he was chased off after S1. Carl rumor makes sense since there was talk last year he just wanted to go to college like a normal kid.
To be safe.
As a huge comic fan losingwould really fucking suck. He has so much awesome material after All Out War. I'm really hoping this is the one time spoilers turn out wrong but if not it will be interesting to see how the show handles all of this. Will other characters get his storylines or are they going to stop following the comics so closely.Carl
Gonna open this up with the recent major rumour going around.
Which I'm actually going to spoiler tag because if it's true, it's going to fundamentally change the show.
TSDF are working to confirm that Carl dies in the MSF/MSP. They're in the "we are fairly sure it happens but can't say for sure" stage, but Carl hasn't been seen filming since the end of August.
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ive read about this on reddit and yeah, all signs point to it being true.
I hadn't read any spoilers for this season. I thought, "Maybe this will be the first season I go in blind" (barring what I know from reading the comics). Then I see this thread.
I kinda wished I was still going in blind.
Let that be advice for any comic-reader entering this thread who's debating on whether or not to read the spoiler in the first reply.
That's not relevant ifMakes zero sense in terms of story,he's a massive part in most events going forward
yeah I dont get the need for tags either tbhThat's not relevant ifChandler Riggs quit the show
Do we have to use spoiler tags? This is a spoiler thread after all.
I figured this would happen, if not this episode then next.
, so it's hard to feel this as a loss.They never let Carl do any of the cool things he does in the comics anyway
Which are?
Q&A Episode 8.4 "Some Guy"
Can you tell us about the aftermath of the attack involving the Kingdomers?
When we finally are taken to the scene, we see that they're all dead. Bodies are scattered everywhere, some missing limbs and some with huge holes from the gunshot blasts. Then finally he extends his hand from the heap of bodies of the Kingdomers who had rushed to protect him. He's been shot in the leg pretty badly, but he's alive. He's got the added problem of all the dead Kingdomers reanimating. He tries to defend himself as best he can, but he doesn't have a gun and he can't even stand up on his leg. Finally, 3 or 4 other Kingdomers show up and save him.
What happens after they save him? Do they escape?
A nerdy looking Savior with big glasses shows up and kills the remaining Kingdomers. He takes Ezekiel hostage. He goes on and on about how Ezekiel is just bullshit, that he's not a real "King" and that if they just take away that cat, he'll be nothing. Eventually Jerry comes along and slices this Savior right in half!
In the sneak peek, we see Carol hiding from some Saviors inside a building. Can you tell us more about what happens in that scene?
That building is the where the snipers were holed up in. Carol is a such a boss and takes out all those sons-of-bitches!! However, that's not all of them, and reinforcements show up. Carol manages to escape and continues to pursue and engage the remaining Saviors.
She later realizes they have the guns they're after, and so she stays there and fights them on her own. There are only 2 left alive, but then she sees Jerry and Ezekiel behind a locked fence being surrounded by walkers. So she goes to them and helps. Those are the 2 guys that escape in the jeep.
Who dies in this episode and how? Is anyone hurt?
Daniel, and every other Kingdomer in Ezekiel's party with the exception of Jerry and Carol. Including Shiva. Shiva saves Ezekiel, Carol, and Jerry when they're surrounded by walkers.
When in the episode does Shiva die?
It's towards the end. Carol goes back to rescue Jerry and Ezekiel but the walkers are closing in. Ezekiel tells them to just leave him since he's just slowing them down because of his leg wound. But Carol and Jerry refuse. They're surrounded, and that's when Shiva shows up.
Who are the men that Rick and Daryl go after on the road? What happens with them?
They are the remaining Saviors at the outpost that Carol had engaged but had to abandon because Ezekiel and Jerry were in trouble. Rick and Daryl shoot them, run the jeep off the road and get their guns.
How does the episode end?
Jerry, Carol, and Ezekiel return to the Kingdom and are met by all of the women and children. He seems completely broken, and can't even address his people because everyone's dead.
*BONUS *
- Jerry loses his weapon in this episode. He breaks it when he tries to use it to break through a big chain on a fence
- Ezekiel keeps wanting Carol and Jerry to leave him behind but Carol says, "Nope. You don't get to do that."
- This episode is focused on the Kingdom people. The only other scene is a short scene with Rick, Daryl, and the two Saviors
I hope they use the budget to make it at least really cool to watch even if it will be sad af.
This was one of the problems on the last site, was that the leak thread was also the comic spoilers thread. I think we should have kept the leaks under wraps for the show, especially if it diverges from the comic. Otherwise I would have no idea about Carl . . . although I doubt they kill Carl off. Half of what makes Negan fun to watch again is his interactions with Carl.If this is a spoiler thread why are people using spoiler tags?
Doesn't it feel like the comic is winding down at all? This current unnamed volume 29 and the name of volume 30 make it seem like it's on its way out. I mean he is ending Invincible, I can't imagine he would want to do TWD forever.
Maybe it's Jadis and the Scavangers who do it?Can't see them justifying Negan continuing to live post-War if he or the Saviors have a hand in Carl's death.
Eh I don't think so. But I suppose it depends on where Kirkman takes this next volume. He's always said 300 issues is what he's aiming for but who really knows at this point.Doesn't it feel like the comic is winding down at all? This current unnamed volume 29 and the name of volume 30 make it seem like it's on its way out. I mean he is ending Invincible, I can't imagine he would want to do TWD forever.
Yep I was thinking they could do this as well. They would just have the make the timeskip longer for Judith.Kill Carl, time skip, make Rick's daughter a kickass teenager killah, and since you're there, actually cast a good actress