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[SPOILERS] Netflix MCU actor teasing return in upcoming Disney+ MCU series
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Oh, I'm sure he will. And Spiderman tends not to kill so I think he'll be around.
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It was mentioned in the MCU OT over in Hangouts though I didn't see a specific source.
So, as per the previously posted page from Fraction's Hawkeye run, does this mean that we may not only potentially be seeing the return of D'Onofrio, but possibly the appearance of characters like the Owl, Tombstone, or Madame Masque in the MCU as well?
Kingpin is the perfect cross series villian especially how like the Marvel Comics predominately features New York City the shows are very much that region as well. He doesn't always have to be the MAIN villian but he can be the big shadow pulling the strings behind whoever is the current antagonist. Setup a long simmering plot of Kingpin doing his Kingpin shit that eventually leads to a big showdown
It has been talked about in the marvel studio spoilers Reddit as well. Can't remember the direct source though.
One of the rumors is that Marvel Studios will take a "broad strokes" approach towards the Netflix shows. Technically the Netflix shows won't be canon, however the MCU incarnations of those characters would still have gone through similar events to those from the Netflix shows. This would allow Marvel Studios to pick and choose what elements they want to keep and which they want to change from the Netflix-verse.
One of those changes would concern Kingpin.
Of course take all of this with buckets of salt.
One of those changes would concern Kingpin.
In the MCU, Kingpin's rise through the criminal underworld wouldn't have happened in the aftermath of the Battle of New York, but rather during the Blip when half the population was gone.
Of course take all of this with buckets of salt.
Well, if the rumors are true, he'll be in the back half of Hawkeye and in Echo at the very least.
Been rumored as being casted again. Not for hawkeye but other stuff. I think pretty much everyone who stood out from the netflix shows has a shot at being brought back into the marvel family. Hopefully Deborah can come back as Karen etc.
I like this take. They definitely don't need to be overly referential; obviously they will skip the origin story and just imply that Daredevil the superhero has a past. Maybe Bullseye will even get recruited for the Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts, whatever team U.S Agent is gonna lead. That's an idea.
Do you follow Comicbookcast on YT? According to a report they received it's going to be a full reboot and they're only bringing the actors back
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I like this take too. Well this does sound like another soft reboot pitch, which is exactly what Netflix MCU needs anyway.
it would be really stupid if Disney does that again. Hell the Mandarin fakeout was so polarizing in 2013 that they retconned it
Hope so, him and Charlie have delivered the best performances in the entire MCU, I love their conflict.
Ignore CBC, he has a hate boner for Marvel TV and has been peddling videos about how it's not canon for ages now.
Until it comes from Feiges mouth I am not believing any statement on canonicity.
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This just sounds like speculation, to be honest. None of the rumors from legitimate sources have commented on that aspect of it.
I feel like it's clear after watching Loki that all the Marvel TV stuff that isn't considered MCU canon will simply be variant versions. Some of the Loki's were still played by Tom Hiddleston and some weren't, so they can pick and choose which same actors are in this version of the universe and which are different.
Anyone feel free to chime in but the way I see it, isn't this obvious?
Anyone feel free to chime in but the way I see it, isn't this obvious?
I hope that's true because D'Onofrio was pitch perfect casting. Man, he was awesome in DD - terrifying, imposing, scheming, all that rage simmering under the skin. He could be articulate and even polite at times but you never felt safe alongside him because you knew he could explode at anytime.
I've become convinced that the Echo show was pitched as the Netflix reunion special. Not to undermine the character, but due to her deep ties with Daredevil and Kingpin then they can toss in Punisher, Jessica Jones, whoever else as well. If they've lined up all these cameos in Hawkeye, Spider-Man, She-Hulk, etc. then they gotta come together somewhere
I been rewatching all of them, which means finally watching Iron Fist, Punisher, and S2 and S3 of JJ.
Daredevil and Luke Cage are so good, and even Iron Fist is entertaining if not quite as good as Daredevil and Luke Cage. I don't see why these characters aren't all back in the MCU, they even considered having them in Infinity War so clearly they felt then they were close enough to the movies to be involved. With the exception of Luke Cage none of them can really go up against even the weakest avenger, so just let them sit in their cities and do their thing and still exist.
Fisk was so good and should be brought back. Much as I like the MCU, the Netflix series have a whole different feel to them and are a gem in their own right. Yes, it sucks to not have Sigourney Weaver ever be in the MCU, and it's weird to have Blade and Cottonmouth be the same actor, and yes it means things like Iron Fist, the Hand and characters like Elektra can never have their stories told again, but just eat the loss and keep the good stuff.
Wow really? It's one thing to have a personal preference but it's another to make reports with that bias
& yeah, I don't think I ever heard Feige eve actually comment on the canonicity of the pre Disney+ Marvel MCU shows.
Another one I heard is that the Kingpin will actually debut at the end of episode 4, not 5. And if that's true, then Kingpin would return before Spider-Man: No Way Home debuts in theaters yeah?
This looks like the most popular option to go with, yeah. It's definitely not what I would want to go with but it seems like it's what most people do with the multiverse being the theme of this Phase.
The rating doesn't even affect anything he did in the show basically? Show slightly less blood in a few of his scenes with slightly less visual cuts on some hits....I guess?
Pretty much the entirety of Daredevil's MA rating comes from Daredevil's fight scenes (way less blood there), drug & human trafficking references, Punisher scenes (that's tough), and sex & nudity - not Kingpin.
Even then between R rated mcu DP and Punisher pretty sure we're going to see the mcu slip into the MA&R ratings more. Pretty sure Deadpool 3 is the litmus test there. If an R rated mcu film still does fantastic in theaters they'll probably swap to doing more of it.
Hmm I'm not sure that's entirely true. Jessica Jones, Daredevil, and even Ironfist have actual powers. I think they could give a good fight to some of the Avengers. Ok sure, they aren't going to level Hulk or Thor.
As for Punisher, he doesn't really target those kind of people anyway, he's more interested in the human crime element. But he held his own against Daredevil pretty well.
I think you're forgetting some big Fisk scenes. Just some quick examples:
I think Deadpool 3 is going to get a toned-down R. Pretty much just for swearing and violence (maybe one shot of male ass for laughs). And zero depictions of smoking of course, because Disney is still paying for it
They had punisher win every fight against daredevil which is ridiculous because in the comics usually Daredevil knocks Frank out in a couple hits.
They portrayed a much weaker version of Daredevil in the Netflix show so there is room to make him a lot more formidable in the MCU if they wanted.
At least he got a scene where he beat up iron fist.
In comics iron fist is more than a good fight for Captain America.
I kinda wish he'd quit doing things to tease everyone. He could be back but let them announce it or something lol. Watch him come back just to get killed off.