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Spider-Man: No Way Home - Trailer #1 (no spoiler/leak discussion)
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"Spidey media"
There aren't many superhero movies fights that touch this period
I like Gunn, but he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. Patty Jenkins (Who was originally supposed to direct Thor The Dark World) and Edgar Wright (Ant Man) have said similar things about the Marvel process.
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The final Goblin fight in ASM2 is actually pretty great. It's just stuck in a mess of a film.
My one issue with Spider Man. Saw this in the most recent Miles Morales video game for PS5 and the main boss in that game being just a human.
Still love the doc ock fight in the movie though.
I doubt that director was lying, they just have two different experiences.
I was going to say the same. Based on Spidey's feats that we have seen each of those punches should've broken every bone in Otto's face. Still a cool scene though, I love the original movies.
Putting aside the "pulling punches" portion, it's established in the film that Peter has a lot of respect Otto's civilian identity; in some ways he's a second mentor to him and shows Peter what sort of life he can have i.e. a successful career as a science major in a loving relationship with his significant other. It's why he unmasks himself to Doc as a way of getting him to see reason instead of smearing him across the wall when he very easily could.
That aside, Parker is not bloodthirsty or sadistic and he knows his own strengths so of course he's not going to break Otto's back or anything even if he could.
There were some real solid effects handling in ASM, both practical and computer generated
Probably the most real spidey has ever felt in regards to physicality, including MCU
Good weighty stuff mixed with a lot of practical shooting, and great fast acrobatics that looked straight outta the comics
I miss ASM's treatment of spider-man himself as far as animation & physicality, MCU spidey tends to look very artificial the majority of the time and doesnt really have a lot of good swinging in general
As far as I'm concerned ASM depicted his web slinging acrobatics & creativity flawlessly
Spider-Man All Swinging Scenes - The Amazing Spider-Man 2012-2014 (Clips HD)
Spiderman - All Swinging Scenes (Compilation) - The Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 (2012 - 2014) Andrew Garfield Movie HD [1080p]Every single swinging scene by Spi...
youtu.be
The Amazing Spider-Man - School Fight!
The Amazing Spider-ManProduced by Marvel Entertainment, Laura Ziskin Productions, Arad Productions, Inc., and Matt Tolmach productionsDistributed by Columbia...
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Those are poor examples because those were both made when Perlmutter was in charge.
not only is the trailer trending at #1, but there are a ton of videos also trending with reactions and breakdowns.
I really love seeing this.
I really love seeing this.
I've always taken this controversy as a case of both sides being right from their own points of view. Lucretia Martel (who stirred up the controversy with her exit) is correct in that she does not have the ability to craft the movie 100% by herself. James Gunn meanwhile is correct in that directors are to varying degrees involved in the pre-vis process and they are ultimately responsible in translating said pre-vis material into something that actually works for the movie.
What is misinformation is the continually-proposed idea that Marvel Studios ghost-writes and ghost-directs huge chunks of these movies (if not entire movies outright) and that the actual directors are essentially bodies meant to operate cameras and keep actors corralled.
I guess Strange must head off to try and fix the Multiverse and leave Peter to deal with what's going on in NYC.
The Spidey villains would be nothing for Strange otherwise if he was around.
The Spidey villains would be nothing for Strange otherwise if he was around.
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It's easy to forget how huge Spider-Man is in the age of Avengers films making $2b and $3b. But damn, Spider-Man is huge.
Like I said earlier, I think this would be a $1.5b box office if not for COVID. Such a shame it's not going to be able to reach the levels it would have otherwise.
Spider also comes within inches of straight up murdering Doc Ock when he throws the clock hand back at him.
Spider-man is popular, but I don't remember the first 2 films having this crazy amount of hype. I think the inclusion of Tobey, Andrew, and general multiverse fukkery has boosted the buzz a bit.
Do you have a link you could share to the whole thing? Looks higher quality than Apple Trailers
The new Dr.Strange movie is probably a direct sequel to this, no?
I actually think the SM1 final Goblin fight remains undefeated.
Yes but I mean he must head off to the events of that movie partway through this otherwise none of the Spidey villains would pose any threat if Strange was still around.
I mean, Electro can control electricity. The others are just crazy dudes with gadgets, but Electricity is pretty op.
Sandman would be op too, if they weren't on an island, like he should probably move.
I mean Strange can probably just cast a spell and make all the electricity and sand disappear or some shit.
I felt like they also carried that over to Insomniac's game. The second half of the final battle was such a "I don't want to do this, but I have to" feeling evoked very well.
Yes, it is great they brought back Molina to play Doc, but for him to come through the multiverse and have no connection to the MCU Spidey feels like they are throwing away one of his greatest rogues simply to generate buzz for the film. It's the same thing with Dafoe. I worry we will never see Holland's Spider-Man fight those enemies again. Even if they survive and establish an MCU Sinister Six won't they just be fighting the image of "Spider-Man" and not have a personal history with MCU Spidey that is so important to their development?
He's not omnipotent. Even when he was fighting Thanos he relied on like, his spells physically hitting him, and that's gonna be a problem with enemies that can become intangible.
Just to be clear, the director never said that Marvel didn't allow her to direct the action scenes. The exact line as quoted by Martel was "don't worry about the action scenes, we will take care of that" and then she mentions that she thought that she'd like to do the action scenes. Not that she asked to and they said no.
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Martel also said this:
I think it is not unreasonable to suggest letting someone else handle the action scenes to a director whose first question is "can we change the effects because I don't like laser lights".
I mean, even if I agree, in the end it's a movie, not a comic series. At this point we can be happy for literally any MCU villain who gets more than one shot overall. In comics, it's no problem letting a character rest for a few hundred issues only for him to come back in full force, in actual movies with actual actors this is probably much much more difficult, especially given the amount of potential stories and arcs the MCU (or even the Spider-Man movies alone) want to tell.
That said, I'd have NO issues with literally anyone from Spidey's gallery staying for a while, be it Mysterio, Vulture or "the old guard" from the other universes.
I would like them to make a Spiderman D+ series to flesh out his local hero status and give him personal stories.
All the MCU Spiderman movies are so... big, and we only got like 2 or 3 scenes of him being friendly neighborhood.
All the MCU Spiderman movies are so... big, and we only got like 2 or 3 scenes of him being friendly neighborhood.
Speaking of those notes, it'll be interesting to see if any of them were used for this movie in regards to the Webbverse characters.
I rewatched it yesterday and yeah, have to agree. Its done so darn well, and is a nice long (and fast paced) fight that captures almost everything I love about the character (no Spidey quips though, but that's the only legit complaint I have)
Is this the Abandoned Thread? LOL
Do you think this is a coincidence? or was it planned?
That was during the time when Ike Perlmutter ran things so that's not exactly the most reliable comparison anymore.
The setup for this is pretty weak tbh.
It doesn't feel in line with Strange's character to do something like this. I've seen people say that he's reckless as proven by his solo film, but...he grew past the worst of that before the credits even rolled. And in his last five years of appearances he's always been much more logical and disciplined. But even if you accept that he'd do this -- he never even bothered to warn Peter that it would affect EVERYONE with zero exceptions? That's just sloppy as hell.
Anyway, as a Raimi stan I obviously loved seeing Doc Ock and the pumpkin bomb. I'm very curious how they're going to manage all of the motivations for these characters, though. I mean shouldn't Otto just be off looking for Tritium again? Hopefully there's going to be enough time to address things like that and show the villains confusion/amazement at the situation they're in as well. Couldn't give two shits about Garfield's villains so I wouldn't be fussed if they get the shaft on runtime lol. And as others have mentioned -- I hope they find a way to give them a good dynamic with Tom's Spidey as well.
I think all of this is doable. Into the Spider-Verse had a massive cast and still pulled it off in under 2 hours. This will undoubtedly be longer, and there's fewer personal dynamics that need to be established here.
It doesn't feel in line with Strange's character to do something like this. I've seen people say that he's reckless as proven by his solo film, but...he grew past the worst of that before the credits even rolled. And in his last five years of appearances he's always been much more logical and disciplined. But even if you accept that he'd do this -- he never even bothered to warn Peter that it would affect EVERYONE with zero exceptions? That's just sloppy as hell.
Anyway, as a Raimi stan I obviously loved seeing Doc Ock and the pumpkin bomb. I'm very curious how they're going to manage all of the motivations for these characters, though. I mean shouldn't Otto just be off looking for Tritium again? Hopefully there's going to be enough time to address things like that and show the villains confusion/amazement at the situation they're in as well. Couldn't give two shits about Garfield's villains so I wouldn't be fussed if they get the shaft on runtime lol. And as others have mentioned -- I hope they find a way to give them a good dynamic with Tom's Spidey as well.
I think all of this is doable. Into the Spider-Verse had a massive cast and still pulled it off in under 2 hours. This will undoubtedly be longer, and there's fewer personal dynamics that need to be established here.
It's a 4 gig file meant for digital cinemas, it is probably of higher quality that Apple Trailers. I could upload it to gdrive if you want it, but I'm not really sure you do since:
1. It's in a very specific format, with audio/video in separate files. My laptop can't even decode the video in realtime.
2. It's not an English version.
I think they'll show them. They'll want maximum hype for the movie. And the person who's been leaking stuff on reddit said that they'll be in the second trailer.
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The fight against the Lizard in the school was something else in terms of how Spidey moved.There were some real solid effects handling in ASM, both practical and computer generated
Probably the most real spidey has ever felt in regards to physicality, including MCU
Good weighty stuff mixed with a lot of practical shooting, and great fast acrobatics that looked straight outta the comics
I miss ASM's treatment of spider-man himself as far as animation & physicality, MCU spidey tends to look very artificial the majority of the time and doesnt really have a lot of good swinging in general
As far as I'm concerned ASM depicted his web slinging acrobatics & creativity flawlessly
Spider-Man All Swinging Scenes - The Amazing Spider-Man 2012-2014 (Clips HD)
Spiderman - All Swinging Scenes (Compilation) - The Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 (2012 - 2014) Andrew Garfield Movie HD [1080p]Every single swinging scene by Spi...
The Amazing Spider-Man - School Fight!
The Amazing Spider-ManProduced by Marvel Entertainment, Laura Ziskin Productions, Arad Productions, Inc., and Matt Tolmach productionsDistributed by Columbia...
I need to write an LTTP
Spider-Man: No Way Home - Trailer #1 (no spoiler/leak discussion)
Even in the 2018 Spider-Man game I found the Doc Ock fight to be quite disappointing. Give us the spectacle!
Been a while since I've played it but wasn't that due to the plot shifting to Mr Negative and then suddenly back to Doc Ock at the end, making that whole segment feel a little disjointed.
Ock as a character was fantastic and even his moments were but fighting him felt like too soon and something saved for a sequel, it was basically like any other fight. Dodge - grab object and throw it at him and apply the rule of 3.