The real Fury only appears in the post credits scene. For the rest of the film, he's Talos.
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Spider-Man: Far From Home |Spoiler OT| Even dead, I'm the hero
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The real Fury only appears in the post credits scene. For the rest of the film, he's Talos.
You don't have to spoiler.
I think pretty much the entire movie he was.
A few points:
Maria Hill calls Fury by his first name, it's been established that no one calls Fury by his first name
Also when talking about multiverse, Fury said, he is from 'your' earth (not 'ours')
Finally when Parker asked about captain marvel, Fury seem irritated that Parker would mention her name.
I definitely think they're too big for a single movie. They should at least split the Sinister Six into a two parter: Spider-Man: Sinister, And Spider-Man: Six (XD I kid with the titles).
Fortunately, we got Vulture, Mysterio, Shocker, and Scorpion already established, so we'd really only need to introduce Doc Ock and whomever the sixth member will be (I don't think it should be Green Goblin; maybe Elektro, Sandman, Rhino, or Kraven the Hunter). Then you could spend the two films focusing on fleshing out the two new Sinister Six members, and just continue to build off of what has been established already for Vulture, Mysterio, Shocker, and Scorpion.
I also think a third and fourth Spider-Man film could bail Peter out by introducing Miles Morales. It's been 5 years since Homecoming. Assuming Miles wasn't dusted, he could be Peter's age, or a few years younger than Peter (like a freshman in High School).
The red and black costume in Far From Home made me think of Miles, and since Peter has been forced to grow up due to FFH (and the future ramifications of being outted), they could fit in a narrative where he reluctantly teaches Miles the ropes of being Spider-Man, while also juggling the rising threat of the Sinister Six, and his public notoriety thanks to JJJ. I could see Peter finally saying the "with great power" line to a struggling Miles. He basically becomes a mentor himself, but an even better mentor than the two people that he viewed as mentors before him (Tony, and Beck).
Thanks to Into the Spider-Verse, audiences are familiar with Miles, so you wouldn't need to do too much with introducing him to audiences, just a clever bit to cover him getting bit, his reaction to Peter being outted, and him deciding to become Spider-Man himself. Maybe he's even distrustful of Peter at the beginning, due to being branded a murderer.
And really, I just want to see an awesome fight scene where two Spider-Men face off against the Sinister Six. That's something we haven't really seen before in live action. It could be spectacular.
Hill calls him Nick in Infinity War. So does Alexander Pierce in Winter Soldier and Tony in Age of Ultron.
Also in FFH, Fury and Hill were talking about Kree sleeper cells.
And at the end of the film, Fury said he knew Mysterio was lying, and Hill said he didn't. I don't think the real Hill would contradict her boss like that.
Then I think we might have some continuity errors because in CM, Fury said no one calls him by his first name.
Coming away a bit disappointed. Certainly not as good as the original, and one of the lower end MCU films. That being said, there are a lot of sweet moments, great score, and a decent villain to keep the ship afloat.
WIll check it out again.
WIll check it out again.
I think we haven't seen the real Nick Fury since a long ago.
Like, at Age of Ultron, Talos was Fury. Cutting his bread diagonally and stuff.
To be fair, that's young Fury who could simply just mellowed up a bit afterwards.
Or have Miles become the street level Spider-Man and Peter can go full Avengers.
i really enjoyed the movie, especially the mysterio stuff. I always thought using mysterio's eye fuckery to introduce the mcu's version of uncle ben for a scene or two would have been cool. imagine all the turmoil and even resolution that would bring spiderman
I'm probably alone here, but I really don't like the Spider-Man MCU films. Crazy how "Even Dead I'm The Hero" fits, considering how much these movies are about Tony Stark.
There are some cool comic references, but overall these movies feel meh. Peter feels like he doesn't give a shit about the power/responsibility thing.
But I mean, the movies aren't bad. In fact, they're pretty good. I just don't click with them.
There are some cool comic references, but overall these movies feel meh. Peter feels like he doesn't give a shit about the power/responsibility thing.
But I mean, the movies aren't bad. In fact, they're pretty good. I just don't click with them.
It's just the theme of the whole MCU. I've come to terms with it, and love it for what it is. I wouldn't put it past them to have some Stark Industries tech be the thing that triggers peoples x gene.
Oh, dear... That's certainly not out of the realm of possibility :/
But, I mean ESPECIALLY Spider-Man, who is treated as the successor. At least in other movies, it's not quite as aggressive.
Basically, for me, who likes Spider-Man as that kind of self-starter that ends up being part of a bigger world, it's kind of off-putting. Here, Spidey feels like he's consistently in the shadow of Iron Man. The thing is that the movie itself touches on these themes, but then plays it straight for the most part.
That movie was set before most MCU movies, not an issue at all
I honestly figured it would be the snaps that would wind up being the origin of the X genes
We're outright told by edith that there are no illusions active anymore. The film went out of its way to close that avenue.
My impression was that he died, but the guy he was working with(who downloaded the drone data, etc.) probably put together a fake video as revenge. Ultimately it's left a bit open, probably to give themselves some leeway with the writing if needed.
That's mid-1990s Fury, this is 2023 Fury. A guy can change a lot in 25 years. No need to get hung up on a mcguffin that served its purpose in a single film.
You didnt watch the after credits did you?
At the end the skrulls who look like fury and hill call the real nick fury and explain what happened . Why would they need to do that if real fury was there?
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Just came back from the theater. Overall, I'd say I enjoyed the movie well enough. I don't know if I'd call it a 10/10 or anything, but it was certainly entertaining enough. I really liked the humor and I thought the Mysterio illusion sequences were really well done in particular.
I've been mostly out of the loop when it comes to superhero stuff for the past decade or so despite really being into it as a kid. I enjoyed the Tobey Maguire SM movies, but haven't watched any of the others until this one. I also enjoyed Avengers Endgame when I watched that a few months ago, but similarly to FFH, I went into that movie without really following what came before closely.
One little nitpick that I had though is
But yeah, overall it was pretty decent. But I
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked Tom Holland as Spidey as this was my first time seeing his version of the character in his own movie.
I've been mostly out of the loop when it comes to superhero stuff for the past decade or so despite really being into it as a kid. I enjoyed the Tobey Maguire SM movies, but haven't watched any of the others until this one. I also enjoyed Avengers Endgame when I watched that a few months ago, but similarly to FFH, I went into that movie without really following what came before closely.
One little nitpick that I had though is
the fact that Spiderman doesn't actually fight Mysterio directly. It was mostly just him fighting against his drones. I expected a direct battle between the two at some point, but it just didn't happen. Found that kinda weird.
But yeah, overall it was pretty decent. But I
sadly didn't get to see the JJJ cameo in the end because I left the theater before the credits ended. Very cool to hear that Simmons came back!
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked Tom Holland as Spidey as this was my first time seeing his version of the character in his own movie.
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It wasn't as good as I hoped. The plot is messy, especially the first half.
I read that the movie was written by the Antman and the Wasp guys and it shows:
- Some of the decisions Peter made were bad and almost out of character (why would he give EDITH to Beck after a short time?)
- Characters were pushed aside to be comic relief
- New characters who are annoying and really unnecessary (stupid love triangle)
- A bloated plot
- Poor attempts to justify why things were happening or not happening (Avenger level threat - wtf does that even constitute?).
What's the deal with the new suit? It was practically useless. Peter had the opportunity to make another Iron Spider suit which could've easily taken down the drones so why the heck did he just add webbed wings? Also, why didn't Peter add an AI to the suit? What happened to Karen? I honestly thought EDITH was going to replace Karen.
And I find it hard to believe that Tony didn't program EDITH to work only for Peter. When Mysterio orders EDITH to fire at Spiderman, EDITH should've said that's not allowed. I mean Tony's not stupid now is he?
That said, I liked the romance between Peter and MJ though I feel it could've been better developed throughout the movie. Happy was great and it would've been nice if he was around more. Jake was great as Mysterio and the hallucination sequence was awesome.
I read that the movie was written by the Antman and the Wasp guys and it shows:
- Some of the decisions Peter made were bad and almost out of character (why would he give EDITH to Beck after a short time?)
- Characters were pushed aside to be comic relief
- New characters who are annoying and really unnecessary (stupid love triangle)
- A bloated plot
- Poor attempts to justify why things were happening or not happening (Avenger level threat - wtf does that even constitute?).
What's the deal with the new suit? It was practically useless. Peter had the opportunity to make another Iron Spider suit which could've easily taken down the drones so why the heck did he just add webbed wings? Also, why didn't Peter add an AI to the suit? What happened to Karen? I honestly thought EDITH was going to replace Karen.
And I find it hard to believe that Tony didn't program EDITH to work only for Peter. When Mysterio orders EDITH to fire at Spiderman, EDITH should've said that's not allowed. I mean Tony's not stupid now is he?
That said, I liked the romance between Peter and MJ though I feel it could've been better developed throughout the movie. Happy was great and it would've been nice if he was around more. Jake was great as Mysterio and the hallucination sequence was awesome.
The effects in that part of the movie were my absolute favorite. I just watched into the spiderverse yesterday and it felt like they perfectly transitioned from that style into live film
Bill Murray!? No way. I remember seeing that guy and my Peter Tingle never went off and if it was Bill Murray it definitely would have
What are you talking about? I was offering proof that Fury and Hill were Skrulls throughout the film by showing that the real Hill would not make Fury look like a gullible fool.
Here's a thought, what if EDITH isn't the AI and glasses (well, technically it is named EDITH but lets forget about that for a minute)? What if EDITH actually refers to Spider-Man? Tony assists Spider-Man by giving access to his tech which the latter uses to become a hero, "Even Dead, I'm The Hero. Thus, Spider-Man is Tony's EDITH.
I'm just joking. Please don't kill me. :)
So I saw the movie again tonight, and now I'm leaning towards the "Mysterio isn't dead" camp (that is, if they want to use him again).
Peter asks EDITH "Is he... Is this real?"
to which EDITH replies, "there are no illusions remaining".
The way it's acted, I feel like they left it open for Beck's Mysterio to return. If they wanted to completely shut the door, they could've had him finish his first thought and ask if Beck was dead. EDITH's answer is vague enough to give cover if they do end up going this route. Say he used practical effects, and his team sprang him from the morgue or something.
Peter asks EDITH "Is he... Is this real?"
to which EDITH replies, "there are no illusions remaining".
The way it's acted, I feel like they left it open for Beck's Mysterio to return. If they wanted to completely shut the door, they could've had him finish his first thought and ask if Beck was dead. EDITH's answer is vague enough to give cover if they do end up going this route. Say he used practical effects, and his team sprang him from the morgue or something.
Spiderman doesn't kill people directly or indirectly, Mysterio is definitely not dead, that's his ultimate illusion, to make you believe he's dead, that's why he is Mysterio.
Didn't Mysterio kill himself with his own bullets just like the Goblin did with his own glider?
There's certainly enough wiggle room for them to bring Mysterio back in a later film. They explicitly said in interviews before the movie came out that this movie was the BEGINNING of his arc, though that could've just been misdirection to hide the fact that he dies here.
That said, Marvel needs to stop killing its best villains so quickly. C'mon, guys.
That said, Marvel needs to stop killing its best villains so quickly. C'mon, guys.
Is Captain America dead? He was in the In Memorium slideshow in the beginning of the movie, with Tony, Natasha, and Vision.