Spiderman has too many people who knows who he is, too many friends hes around constantly, and gets way too much help in these movies. The movie was nice though. Spiderman 2 is still the best.
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Spider-Man: Far From Home |Spoiler OT| Even dead, I'm the hero
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Even though I know that he accomplishes things using his abilities, I just can't help but be bothered by the Iron Man stuff popping up in Spider-Man. I'm just gonna live with it until they probably do another reboot of the character. Here's hoping they leave the Iron Man stuff out in the next movie.
End of the day I loved the movie, just edges out Homecoming for me. Mysterio was so well done and imagine that's not the end for him. I would've liked to have seen maybe another villain introduced in the same vein as Scorpion was to give more allusion to possibly a future Sinister Six. 9/10
I mean the movie also needs to serve as an epilogue to The Infinity Saga so dealing with the fallout of Tony's death is kind of inevitable.
Very true. Lol
I think it was just how much older he looks that threw me off. Of course I look it up and the actor is in his 30s so I guess that was it. Hah.
While I have no problem with the referencing of Tony's death, the aftermath of the infinity saga, etc. in FFH, it's the Tony as a father figure/mentor of Peter that bothered me ever since they introduced the character.
Was all the stuff about this movie taking place "minutes after the end of Endgame" just total bull, then? Or do we think it got cut, along with that footage of him fighting crime and talking smack to the cops? Those two things together feel like they could've constituted a different first act for the movie, which had a bit of an odd start.
Totally forgot about that. They definitely reaffirmed it multiple times in press as well. Weird since the movie makes it clear it's been 8 months.
If that was the case, why did it feel like it didn't get addressed at all? Like no mention of "I nearly got killed!", Beck not checking the kill was confirmed on Fury?
It just felt off. Like I thought one or both of Fury and Maria Hill were projections at the end when the finale goes down, since neither seemed to acknowledge the previous near-death experience. Idk. I think I need a rewatch.
Clearly, the whole concept of age is weird now in the MCU. You had the line in the opening newscast where the student anchor says his little brother is now his older brother, the line where MJ lets the stewardess know Flash was blipped and not actually 21, the Brad stuff-MJ stuff.
Imo, there is just too much to reconcile in one movie and even then I don't feel like Spider-man would be the appropriate film to delve into the more complicated aspects of this. I honestly don't expect us to get a real deep dive into post blip life until Falcon & WS on Disney+.
Yeah. I just went back and watched the trailers, and there's even more I didn't remember that's not in the movie. Him picking up his passport, him going to the bodega and talking to the guy from Homecoming... definitely feels like the first 15 minutes of this movie went through some overhaul. Peter's even in his regular (non-Iron) suit at the fundraiser in the trailers, which just feels like a weird change because it seems to have no purpose. I actually thought the Iron Spider suit and its reflectivity looked really out of place in that scene - I wonder if it's because they had to do another CGI pass over his regular suit?
To everyone talking about the Daily Bugle, executive producer Eric Hauserman Carroll talked about how they're gonna tackle these things back in May:
This is what i was wondering? We now have EDITH but what happened to the original suit lady, Karen. :(
He doesn't really wear the original suit in this movie at all.
I was also sad we didn't get Karen, like a "Hello Peter" in the new suit or something. Or even a mention.
They didn't have a previous near death experience. That was all a Mysterio Projection. Fury doesn't see or talk to Peter from Post-Magma Elemental in Prague until *after* Mysterio is defeated in the final act in London.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nt9L1jCKGnE?start=27
So... What happened to this scene? It wasn't included in the actual movie.
So... What happened to this scene? It wasn't included in the actual movie.
Spider-Man film isn't appropriate but a TV show on a subscription service with c-tier characters is the place to do it? 🤨
My biggest eye-rolling moment of the film was the fact that Peter was on a Stark jet with all of this technology on it but for some reason didn't have a way to access the EDITH system and made it so Peter NEEDED to get the glasses back from Beck? Seemed way too convenient to the plot.
Not appropriate because of the tone of the film. This movie was meant to be a fun, personal and Spider-man focused adventure. There's a lot of darker and more mature elements to be explored in the world and a teenage Euro trip film is not the right place to do that.
Also, C-Tier? Falcon is the NEW CAPTAIN AMERICA for pete's sake.
Not appropriate because of the tone of the film. This movie was meant to be a fun, personal and Spider-man focused adventure. There's a lot of darker and more mature elements to be explored in the world and a teenage Euro trip film is not the right place to do that.
Also, C-Tier? Falcon is the NEW CAPTAIN AMERICA for pete's sake.
I for one can't wait for Peter to sell his love to MJ to the devil in order to get his secret identity bac
I'm starting to wonder if all the stupid decisions Beck makes in the final fight were actually all on purpose so he could fake his death and expose Peter
Kind of how Fury and Hill being incompetent was all on purpose as well.
Kind of how Fury and Hill being incompetent was all on purpose as well.
Because Flash is a tertiary character so they're not going to give him huge time.... so they took advantage with what time they could give him
Yeah that line about not invoking her name hits harder knowing it's Talos. Because at first I was thinking why would Fury get uptight of Peter just asking where she is 🤔
I mean its very clear that in this universe Tony Stark is Uncle Ben. So forget really about an uncle ben being important.
That, the scene where Peter Parker picks up his passport, and I'm assuming all other relevant cut material will be in a home release One-Shot-esque montage titled "Peter's To Do List."
I'm not sure why everyone's so incredulous at Flash getting some development.
Not everything needs to serve the immediate plot, especially when you have an ongoing series with recurring characters.
If they're not going anywhere with Flash, at the very least it humanizes him more. Instead of being a stock bully character, we feel for him a bit more if we notice those little details.
I think they are going somewhere with him, though, especially with the revelation as to Spider-Man's identity. If he ends up doing a heroic turn in the future, or makes a mistake he regrets, it'll seem more fluid and reasonable than if he was just a one-dimensional bully for the previous two movies.
Because character moments can exist to service some character development without it needed to be for some greater secret purpose.
Flash is gonna react two ways...
Defend Spider-Man but not believe Peter is him
Or what I hope
Defend Spider-Man and believe he's Peter
They cut it - it was part of a "Peter prepares for his trip checklist" montage that they had, which also included him picking up his passport. It'll be in the deleted scenes on home video release.
Personally The Spectacular Spider-Man did a much better job fleshing out Flash, but then again, that show is perfect.
In my fantasy booking it goes two ways:
- If Flash isn't a big player: Pete and maybe MJ and/or Ned are on the run, and they need a place to hide/distraction/whatever. They run into Flash, and it's unclear which way he'll go. But then he's Good Guy Flash and helps them out.
- If they want to get more in-depth: Using the hooks they've already left, they could have the world be more unsure about Peter being Spider-Man. Going through his streaming footage, Flash notices something that could confirm Pete being Spider-Man. It turns out that his mother's an evil businesswoman that wants to take down Spider-Man or whatever, and he has to decide between handing over the footage to his mother to win her approval or keeping it secret to help out Spidey. His desire for his mother's affection (and distaste for Peter) barely wins out (with some pressure from the mother), so he hands over the footage, but afterwards he really regrets it and ends up helping Spider-Man and redeeming himself because he realizes it's the right thing to do. Maybe Aunt May can have something to do and punch out Flash's mom.
Has there always been two post scenes though in every film?
Absolutely loved it to pieces. Tom Holland gets better and better. Gyllenhaal fucking crushed it.
But oh man, seeing JK Simmons again almost made me jump out of my seat, holllllly shit
And they are totally setting up Secret Invasion, definitely not the direction I predicted.
But oh man, seeing JK Simmons again almost made me jump out of my seat, holllllly shit
And they are totally setting up Secret Invasion, definitely not the direction I predicted.
Bwah?
The Skrulls are pretty decent folk in the MCU, and Talos and his wife seemed to be working on behalf of Fury.
Yeah, on second thought, I just thought about that. Maybe he's the director of SWORD now?
It was ok but I dislked half the jokes, the high school, Ned girlfriend/babe jokes and Peter getting framed in his boxers isn't my type of humour.
Post credits scenes were amazing and fixed some of my complaints.
How could Spider Man be so careless without his mask and get away with it? (oh he deservedly gets exposed)
Nick Fury is way too reactionary and gulliable in this movie (oh it's not really him)
Post credits scenes were amazing and fixed some of my complaints.
How could Spider Man be so careless without his mask and get away with it? (oh he deservedly gets exposed)
Nick Fury is way too reactionary and gulliable in this movie (oh it's not really him)
It's Fury and Hill. They play shit cool. Getting almost killed is par for the course.
Are you in an alternate reality of your own like Quentin Beck?
