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Spectator USA: Kushner allegedly involved in Khashoggi arrest; info used to blackmail Trump by Erdogan (unverified)
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What i dont understand is why Erdogan gave up his bugs in the embassy to prove the saoudis killed kashoggi. WHy would he do that?
He had to gain something really big from it to give up such an advantage right. I m pretty sure Erdogan doesnt give a fuck about a dead journalist.
He had to gain something really big from it to give up such an advantage right. I m pretty sure Erdogan doesnt give a fuck about a dead journalist.
The Spectator UK edition is a long-running and previously respectable and thoughtful conservative magazine that has recently degenerated the way all these previously respectable and thoughtful conservative magazine/newspapers have: i.e. printing columns for garbage contrarians, racists and sexists who say the quiet part out loud, free speech nutbars and in one case last year, a fucking Greek neo nazi who legit wrote a piece originally titled "In praise of Wehrmacht: The real story of D-Day is the heroism of the German soldiers who were vastly outnumbered but fought nobly and to the death". It probably wouldn't print rumours like this if didn't have decent sources however.
How much that translates to the US edition I have no idea.
How much that translates to the US edition I have no idea.
And this is why you don't give security clearance to shit eaters like Kushner. Not only should he be allowed any access to top level security information, his dukbass has no clue how to prevent it from being intercepted. These fucking morons use text messages and their cell phones to conduct top level secret business.
This is my thought as well. I'm not familiar with this source and it doesn't really inspire confidence at first glance. I think everyone here, especially the reactionary "HOLY SHIT!" posts on the front page, need to slow down a bit here and take it with a grain of salt. I say this as someone that wouldn't be surprised at all if this is true, given Trump's track record, but regardless, we could use some secondary validation of this before we dive in believing it full-tilt.
I'm waiting for the official confirmation on this, but goddamn that's fucking insane if this is true.
What about MH17? 298 people were murdered. And here we are, five years later and no one/country is/has been held responsible.
These countries do whatever the fuck they want and no one can do fuck all.
Kashoggi was murdered by MBS, everyone knows it and what happened? Fuck all. Such is life, unfair as fuck.
Ah thanks! I was trying to remember how to spell it but it was 6 in the morning and I just gave up
Holy shit. There's no way this is true. If it is it's insane and is such a massive national security problem Trump and Kushner both need to be removed immediately
If true, this should help nail impeachment. But GOP is so off their rockers stupid and crazy. So we'll see.
If this was true, even the current GOP would probably kick Trump out of office.
But I kinda doubt it's true. There's no way a scandal of this scale would stay under wraps in an administration as disfunctional and leaky as this one.
Agreed. I appreciate the OP's warning but it's very possible someone ignores it and spreads unverified claims.
"It's disturbing, but not impeachable." - Republicans everywhere.
Not really. The Occam's razor scenario is that Trump is an idiot and a coward that's easily influenced by the last person he talked to.
"Quote me the specific exact law that says explicitly your son in law can't give a journalist up. I'll wait"
I guess people are just completely ignoring these posts, 🤷‍♂️ .
It does look like this was hinted at, probably known, being connected a while back.
I don't think Joaquin Castro's statements were widely reported, because I don't remember him saying that a year ago.
However what interesting statements to have said a year ago, especially now after reading this new report from spectator.us. I wonder if a more well known journalistic media source will verify or confirm this?
Kushner is just as vile as Trump (history of slum-lording too), but with the exception he's halfway mentally competent.
I hope this one is true so that people will finally act against the Trump administration.
But an unverified rumor isn't enough, we need hard proof and people willing to testify.
plz plz let this one finally bring about the downfall of Trump.
But an unverified rumor isn't enough, we need hard proof and people willing to testify.
plz plz let this one finally bring about the downfall of Trump.
Perhaps it wasn't unwittingly? Perhaps the blackmail material includes Kushner and MBS talking about what MBS planned on doing, and Kushner giving him the green light?
The GOP has no love for Kushner though and would easily go after him
ivanka is simply the missing link between why trump did not throw jared under the bus
Need a better source. Spectator USA hasn't really broken any major news stories to my knowledge so for them to come out with a major bombshell like this is a bit suspicious. Waiting for WaPo/NYT.
There's no way this is true. Scandals like that only exist as plot twists in TV shows.
Will happily eat my words and watch this administration burn if it turns out to be true though.
Will happily eat my words and watch this administration burn if it turns out to be true though.
That's part of the issue, they don't anymore because of leaking/selling sensitive info.
Not believing this until I see more sources, but I thought that we already knew that Turkey had evidence of how this started and what happened exactly. They were very clear about this when kashoggi was first killed. I never put anything past trump and his cronies. Dude literally does shady shit every single fucking day.
I've only seen this reported on the Spectator and Daily Mail, so I'm taking it with a metric ton of salt atm.
we're close to the point that finding the non-whistleblowers would easier
That would be quite something. Though nothing but speculation
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