South Africa paying more than double EU price for Oxford vaccine
Health ministry quotes says premium is because government did not pay into research and development effort
www.theguardian.com
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South Africa paying more than double EU price for Oxford vaccine
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www.theguardian.com
Isn't it because EU countries funded the vaccine so basically they already partialy paid for it or something?
Maybe but it's more likely because EU bought many more doses.
It says right there that 2000 South Africans participated in clinical trials. That's not enough to satisfy contribution to research requirements?
I think India is getting it at $3 per dose and that's supposedly a price offered to poorer, third world countries and is a non-profit price.
I think India is getting it at $3 per dose and that's supposedly a price offered to poorer, third world countries and is a non-profit price.
The $3 price is part of the deal for the Indian plant to make the vaccine on licence.
The reference to contribution is about the initial financial investment from various nations on the expectation of better rates.
I'll just add that Brazil will also pay $5.25 for each of the first 2 million doses we are bound to receive next week (maybe) from India. And to those that may say that we just didn't buy enough doses to get a better price, we have a 100 mi doses deal with Astrazeneca for the first half of 2021 and another 100 mi for the second half. The only reason we will get a price tag of $3.16 per dose in the future is because we are set to produce the vaccine in our own country.
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I tried to find the information in english, but the only source I have for these values is in portuguese. The source is reliable though and it even compares the prices with the ones mentioned in the guardian piece linked by the OP.
noticias.uol.com.br
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I tried to find the information in english, but the only source I have for these values is in portuguese. The source is reliable though and it even compares the prices with the ones mentioned in the guardian piece linked by the OP.
Jamil Chade - Para 1ª entrega, Brasil paga o dobro dos europeus por vacinas
O governo brasileiro irá pagar ao Instituto Serum, da Índia, um valor mais de duas vezes superior ao que os países ricos da UE (União Europeia) destinaram para garantir as vacinas da AstraZeneca.Depois de um desencontro entre os governos do Bras
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Unless R&D and running costs are astronomical, this is just another example of greediness taking precedence over human lives. And unless the posters above have taken these costs into account when they posted, I consider their defense of companies prioritising profits made off one of the most serious diseases in modern history in very poor taste. 'Despicable' might be more appropriate.
The EU, like other nations, paid AZ up front to accelerate development and production on the expectation that they would pay less later on. SA did not.
Only to developing countries IIRC. Not sure SA counts as that.
Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine to be sold to developing countries at cost price
Jab that is part of global initiative to distribute doses will remain at low price ‘in perpetuity’
www.theguardian.com
My understanding is that it is still planned to be at cost to developing nations once the licenced manufacturing centres are up and running.
Only to developing countries IIRC. Not sure SA counts as that.
Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine to be sold to developing countries at cost price
Jab that is part of global initiative to distribute doses will remain at low price ‘in perpetuity’
A lot of metrics still put both South Africa and India in that category. For instance, the IMF has both of them on the list. All five BRICS are still considered developing.
IP is already grotesque enough when it it constitutes a theft from community and culture. Theft of health and life is an even lower rung of hell.
There are few.
For example they might have been produced in different part of the world. Even if it's sold at cost it might have different production cost.
Delivery time could be different, making the production cost different.
But it's just probably because europe have more contracting power.
For South Africa, is produced in India, at the Serum Institute. Can't imagine that to be more expensive than production in Western Europe.
Well, when speaking of those huge number of doses most stuff is automated. So probably stuff like taxes, subsidy, supply logistic and efficiency of production line matter more than manpower cost.
Rationalising the gatekeeping of health and, due to the severity of covid 19, life itself on the basis of timely payments, when South Africa is quite literally bankrupt with a ~27-28% unemployment rate, is next level bizarre. If you cannot prove that the distribution of a lifesaving vaccine at a discounted rate is financially untenable and therefore manufacturally unsustainable, you are putting financial interests above human interests.
Which is also the primary takeaway of that post of mine you quoted, where you have elected not to address the argument. So, to be clear, with that response of yours, are you implying that process more important than human life?
But process! We ought to think about the potential shareholder wealth being denied by our improper demands for justness.
Your argument is with capitalism, not me. I'm just stating facts.
I know what the facts are, since I know how to read and utilised this skill when writing my post in response to the OP and some posts in this thread. You accomplish exactly nothing by reiterating the obvious. All it does is drown out the bigger point. My argument is with those defending greedy capitalism in lieu of life, by the way.
I'm not going to just jump on the outrage train, sorry. And your tone makes it clear you just want to argue which I'm not interested in.
I think it's entirely appropriate to be outraged about health being gatekept during a pandemic. My tone makes it clear that I find your indifference reprehensible. If you're going to regurgitate the facts everyone is already aware of in a poor attempt at diluting the point being made, don't expect people to treat you as anything more than an annoyance.
pfffff... that's cheap... wanna know how our government (Colombia) wants to pay for the AstraZeneca vaccine?...
Fucking $21 USD!!!...
www.eltiempo.com
Fucking $21 USD!!!...
Duque: 'El plan de vacunación es público, ahí están los criterios'
'Aquí se ha hecho un proceso riguroso', advirtió el Presidente.
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pfffff... that's cheap... wanna know how our goverment (Colombia) wants to pay for the AstraZeneca vaccine?...
Fucking $21 USD!!!...
Duque: 'El plan de vacunación es público, ahí están los criterios'
'Aquí se ha hecho un proceso riguroso', advirtió el Presidente.
One of the most harshly affected countries, too.
