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SoulCalibur VI |OT| A Tale Eternally Retold
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Quite cute.The site has some new art:
No problem, glad it was useful.
Went back to arcade mode to finally get the clear in under 7 minutes trophy, was much more manageable thanks to Cass. Though mirrors can be fun/informative every once in a while, it would be nice to see more people using other characters online aside from her to see how I fare with her against them. Perhaps in a week or two.
Some good info here. Each character will come with a parts pack. Are we caught up on SC4/5 stuff so we can expect actual new items? It also seems we will get stage variations (very much needed) and hopefully a brand new stage too. And finally there might be a new character entirely.
I actually would prefer a new character to basically any returning one. The actual newcomers in this game felt very isolated and exotic, since by design they only interact with your CAS. I'd like a new, grounded character who feels at home in the late 1500's.
Going by Groh and Azwel, I very much doubt that this is what will happen.
While I wouldn't object to an additional new character who was interesting enough, given the fact that one of the four slots has already been taken by another guest, having only two reserved for veterans still missing would likely anger fans who had hoped for a second chance. I finally got everyone I wanted already though, so I don't have a dog in that fight.
Yeah not sure what to think about 1 character possibly being new when 3 slots for veterans would certainly help getting in more characters people are hoping for but SC6 lacked a new female character so if one of those slots was for that I wouldn't be mad
as long as Setsuka is among the 2 vets
Lol, the game was missing 300+ items from SCV before you even touch SCV's dlc. They've added fewer than a hundred of them last season. Some weird as hell part choices too. Oh, and I didn't count the SCIV outfits either when I came up with the 300 figure, just base-game SCV.
The new stuff that we've gotten hasn't been great if you ask me. Lots of weird bulbous armor without much texture.
Anyway, was there anything to imply that these parts packs are more than just legacy equipment for said character, as they've done with Amy and Cassandra?
As for new characters, I have the same expectation/opinion as I do of the new equipment. Groh and Azwel both feel out of place to me. They're fun to play, but visually, characteristically, and even story-wise they feel like a fan's OCs. I'm not optimistic about a brand new character given the track record. Plus I really want Aeon, a Korean sword user, Setsuka, and ideally Hilde at some point as well.
It sounded like the packs would be unique parts, like the two packs we got already, so we'll get DLC 1-8 instead of 1-6. Except for 2B they didn't really talk about the "freebies" that came with each individual character in the first pass.
Pretty meaty, yeah. Not the highest in production value, but there's a lot there. You've got a story mode for every character (story is the focus here, not combat. One character doesn't even get any fights) and a long mode for your custom character with mild RPG elements such as leveling up and weapon loot.
So nothing like that RPG thing from SCII?
Well that's fine I guess. Will probably get it.
Though if Hwang were announced I definitely would.
Just go in with the expectation that it's not as good as the Sword Master mode from 2.
I appreciate Azwel's design as Soul Calibur's take on an Evil Sorceror. He's Necrid done right and distinct enough from Algol in how they fight.
Groh though... if his storyline was that he was a member of Neo-Tokyo's Time Police come to destroy Soul Edge to preserve his future there'd need to be 0 change in his design. Like, his story about belonging to a secret brotherhood descended from King Arthur's Knights of the Round table is super fitting, but everything about the actual design of his organization seems about 400 years off from SC's actual setting.
Azwell is the most entertaining character introduced in the series since Raphael. I love his dorky antics dearly.
The main difference with Raphael is that I'm laughing with him, not at him.
The main difference with Raphael is that I'm laughing with him, not at him.
Cassandra is already out on the PS4 in America as of earlier this week.
Cass came out Monday. System changes won't be out until the first season 2 dlc and we don't know when that is.
Cass is out. No date for S2. Since Haohmaru is listed as the 2nd character and they didn't reveal the 1st yet unfortunately I think S2 is still quite a bit away. Honestly would't expect it before like November
Even that seems optimistic, given that Cass took them five months after Amy. I'm thinking January or February.
Not having S2 out a while before Evo Japan would really suck
Since the final Asia League tournament is in October, launching S2 sometime in fall would be the best case scenario if it were to happen before Evo Japan.
Not directly related to SC6, but I figure I can post this here:
These are the alternate Critical Finishes in SC4. You only get these variants when fighting Yoda. These alternate CFs are generic for the most part, but still interesting to see.
These are the alternate Critical Finishes in SC4. You only get these variants when fighting Yoda. These alternate CFs are generic for the most part, but still interesting to see.
Really impressed with how Cassandra has turned out. I am honestly pretty overjoyed about the future of this game too. Glad Namco was willing to give it another year, the game seriously needed it.
Haohmaru is such an inspired choice too. I am seriously so thankful SCVI's guests have all been stellar additions. Especially compared to Tekken 7.
Haohmaru is such an inspired choice too. I am seriously so thankful SCVI's guests have all been stellar additions. Especially compared to Tekken 7.
I've been able to spend more time playing as Cassandra, and I'm really happy with her. She seemed initially very overwhelming, but the more I play her, the more I realize she isn't actually that different from in SC4. It's basically SC4 Cass + with some crazy new options.
I keep telling myself that maybe the next time I get back into the game the matchmaking will be fixed. Maybe I should wait till SCVII.
Cassandra mirrors are so goddamn frustrating, even more so when they're damn near all I get should I pick her.
Any Tira matchup is annoying, but that's what happens when having to fight a character almost no one uses while the people who do use her scurry away after getting a single win.
Any Tira matchup is annoying, but that's what happens when having to fight a character almost no one uses while the people who do use her scurry away after getting a single win.
Thinking of picking this up in the sale...worth getting the deluxe edition or no?
I'm not that great at fighting games so may not play online that much. Is this quite beginner friendly?
I'm not that great at fighting games so may not play online that much. Is this quite beginner friendly?
Does it make his hitbox move back and forth, though? That might be why they changed it to begin with.
Though it hides its tutorial in the Libra of Soul single-player mode, it's fairly easy to learn with a wide variety of playstyles.
Got a month of PS+ so I played ranked on PS4 for the first time (usually only play on PC). It's a pretty stark difference playing on the two platforms.
The netcode feels the same on both platforms, but PS4 has high inherent input which affects the entire game. Even the menus feel laggy compared to the PC version.
On the upside, matchmaking on the PS4 version is very fast. I usually have to wait minutes to find a single match on PC, but it's rather quick on PS4 (I'd say less than a minute). No one likes to rematch on PS4, though. Not a single player I fought clicked the rematch button. I dunno if that's because people prefer to fight different people (and matchmaking is fast enough to make that viable) or because no one wants to fight someone with no rank. On PC, people rematch all the time (probably mostly because the matchmaking times are so darn long).
I really wish the PC version had a larger player base. It's small enough that I've had a match where I randomly got a "GG" message on Discord because the guy I fought is in the same SC Discord server as me.
The netcode feels the same on both platforms, but PS4 has high inherent input which affects the entire game. Even the menus feel laggy compared to the PC version.
On the upside, matchmaking on the PS4 version is very fast. I usually have to wait minutes to find a single match on PC, but it's rather quick on PS4 (I'd say less than a minute). No one likes to rematch on PS4, though. Not a single player I fought clicked the rematch button. I dunno if that's because people prefer to fight different people (and matchmaking is fast enough to make that viable) or because no one wants to fight someone with no rank. On PC, people rematch all the time (probably mostly because the matchmaking times are so darn long).
I really wish the PC version had a larger player base. It's small enough that I've had a match where I randomly got a "GG" message on Discord because the guy I fought is in the same SC Discord server as me.
After playing a bit on PS4, I got curious what the input lag difference is compared to PC, as even the menus in the PS4 version feel laggier than on PC.
Short answer: Looks like it's 3 frames slower on PS4 (aka 50 ms). Which is pretty significant, especially with the overall input lag being 90ms (as measured by https://twitter.com/WydD/status/1052836115017854976).
Long answer...
Since the method relied on recording footage of both versions at the same time, I decided to compare loading times too for the heck of it.
Loading times:
Title screen to main menu on PC: 7.4 seconds
Title screen to main menu on PS4: 17.1 seconds (that network thingie takes its sweet time)
Main menu to character select on PC: 6.8 seconds
Main menu to character select on PS4: 11 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PC: 14.4 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PS4: 20.6 seconds
Average input delay difference: 3 frames slower on PS4 (aka 50 milliseconds slower)
I don't have an easy way to test the total input delay on a specific platform, but WydD on twitter tested the total input delay for the PS4 as being 90.4ms at launch.
Here's the PC I used for the test: i7-4790k, gtx 1080, 16gb ram, Win 7 64-bit, SC6 installed to an SSD
The PS4 is a PS4 Pro with a stock harddrive and I used an Intensity Pro 4K with PtBi to capture the PS4 footage. This capture card has an extremely low amount of capture latency. The lag with the capture card is less than 1 frame based on my tests (I had PS4 running with an HDMI splitter leading to capture card and a monitor, and they both showed the same frame in a 60fps game).
I did the input test by having two PS4 controllers connected to the PC and PS4 (wired to PC, wireless to PS4) and then trying to press the same button at the same time (I did this many times and got the average, which should be a good indicator for what the actual difference is).
Short answer: Looks like it's 3 frames slower on PS4 (aka 50 ms). Which is pretty significant, especially with the overall input lag being 90ms (as measured by https://twitter.com/WydD/status/1052836115017854976).
Long answer...
Since the method relied on recording footage of both versions at the same time, I decided to compare loading times too for the heck of it.
Loading times:
Title screen to main menu on PC: 7.4 seconds
Title screen to main menu on PS4: 17.1 seconds (that network thingie takes its sweet time)
Main menu to character select on PC: 6.8 seconds
Main menu to character select on PS4: 11 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PC: 14.4 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PS4: 20.6 seconds
Average input delay difference: 3 frames slower on PS4 (aka 50 milliseconds slower)
I don't have an easy way to test the total input delay on a specific platform, but WydD on twitter tested the total input delay for the PS4 as being 90.4ms at launch.
Here's the PC I used for the test: i7-4790k, gtx 1080, 16gb ram, Win 7 64-bit, SC6 installed to an SSD
The PS4 is a PS4 Pro with a stock harddrive and I used an Intensity Pro 4K with PtBi to capture the PS4 footage. This capture card has an extremely low amount of capture latency. The lag with the capture card is less than 1 frame based on my tests (I had PS4 running with an HDMI splitter leading to capture card and a monitor, and they both showed the same frame in a 60fps game).
I did the input test by having two PS4 controllers connected to the PC and PS4 (wired to PC, wireless to PS4) and then trying to press the same button at the same time (I did this many times and got the average, which should be a good indicator for what the actual difference is).
I don't have a PS4 with SSD so that's not something I can easily test. But I quickly installed SC6 to an HDD (5400 rpm) on my PC to compare the loading times:
Title screen to main menu on PC with SSD: 7.4 seconds
Title screen to main menu on PC with HDD: 7.4 seconds
Title screen to main menu on PS4: 17.1 seconds (that network thingie takes its sweet time)
Main menu to character select on PC with SSD: 6.8 seconds
Main menu to character select on PC with HDD: 6.5 seconds
Main menu to character select on PS4: 11 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PC with SSD: 14.4 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PC with HDD: 16.9 seconds
Stage select to ingame on PS4: 20.6 seconds
Disk read speed doesn't actually make a big difference. The bottleneck must be the CPU decompressing assets.
I hope we get a new Soul Calibur next gen. I love the animation in Soul Calibur for the most part, but I think the actual character models could use some work.
I was looking at the MK11 models recently with more attention. They are really nice.
Man, if SC could have those high quality models along with their already awesome animation. Good lord! haha.
I was looking at the MK11 models recently with more attention. They are really nice.
Man, if SC could have those high quality models along with their already awesome animation. Good lord! haha.
Soulcalibur 4 was 2008, and we're still recycling bits and pieces from that one. The way Bamco is treating the series, it's ever going to approach MK11.
