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Sony's silence with PlayStation is just awful as there is no communication
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Hey, Days Gone and MLB 19 are near release. You don't know that?
This thread is bizarre, I don't see any aspect at all that requires communication from Sony. We already know their big games for 2019 and possibly early 2020 and can reasonably expect they'll be releasing their next system after that, there's no confusion.
Edited my post to include Days Gone, since I'm not interested in it I didn't even think about. MLB19...the same, it's a sport game so not interested.
What do they need to communicate?
Arm chair analysts on Reset place too much value on themselves.
The general gaming audience doesn't give a shit. Games are announced, marketed and released.
What a mind boggling reaction.
Arm chair analysts on Reset place too much value on themselves.
The general gaming audience doesn't give a shit. Games are announced, marketed and released.
What a mind boggling reaction.
It's my point: nothing. As I wrote my PS4 is getting dust. Last game I layed on it was COD MW Remastered with Plus, before that I played KH3, but now I have nothing to play unless there are Plus games I'm interested in.
Maybe I'll get Judgment if I find a copy for 45€ or so, but that's not a first party and I can also wait for a good discount with no problem.
I think if you worry too much for a multi-billion dollar company, you need to overthink some things.
I'm just going to copy & paste my post from the other thread. To me it sums up how out of touch the ERA bubble (forgive me for one generalisation) is:
Everything we've heard in recent weeks from 'competitors' is a great example of why Sony should stand back and observe. So many leaks - streaming, hardware, forwards compatibility, backwards compatibility, PC/Switch ports......you name it. And yet none of this has broken through into the conscience of mainstream gamers. Even on forums like this confusion abounds in discussions about, for example, Microsoft's next-gen hardware plans and multiple sku's.
Right now Sony are focusing on what matters, their near 100m userbase. PlayStation are embarking on a major marketing campaign for Day's Gone. Another new IP, another title set to perform extremely strongly. And a title Era is sleeping on. Likewise, turn on your TV when the Champions League is on (Europe's biggest sporting competition). What do you see? Blanket marketing for PS4 Pro "4K Gaming". Grabbing the mindshare of European gamers.
PS4 yearly hardware sales may have passed their peak. But tens of millions of those systems have only been in the hands of their owners for a year or two. These are now the high watermark years for selling the biggest, most ambitious, games of the generation.
With so many top tier exclusives still to come on PS4 Sony would be wise to keep their next-gen plans under wraps. The mainstream market isn't demanding new hardware, they aren't even contemplating it, right now. The irony of course is it's been obvious for the past 2 years Sony have been prepping for next-gen.But the very earliest they need to discuss PS5 is at a December PSX event. Long after Microsoft, Google and whoever else, have told the world their plans.
Everything we've heard in recent weeks from 'competitors' is a great example of why Sony should stand back and observe. So many leaks - streaming, hardware, forwards compatibility, backwards compatibility, PC/Switch ports......you name it. And yet none of this has broken through into the conscience of mainstream gamers. Even on forums like this confusion abounds in discussions about, for example, Microsoft's next-gen hardware plans and multiple sku's.
Right now Sony are focusing on what matters, their near 100m userbase. PlayStation are embarking on a major marketing campaign for Day's Gone. Another new IP, another title set to perform extremely strongly. And a title Era is sleeping on. Likewise, turn on your TV when the Champions League is on (Europe's biggest sporting competition). What do you see? Blanket marketing for PS4 Pro "4K Gaming". Grabbing the mindshare of European gamers.
PS4 yearly hardware sales may have passed their peak. But tens of millions of those systems have only been in the hands of their owners for a year or two. These are now the high watermark years for selling the biggest, most ambitious, games of the generation.
With so many top tier exclusives still to come on PS4 Sony would be wise to keep their next-gen plans under wraps. The mainstream market isn't demanding new hardware, they aren't even contemplating it, right now. The irony of course is it's been obvious for the past 2 years Sony have been prepping for next-gen.But the very earliest they need to discuss PS5 is at a December PSX event. Long after Microsoft, Google and whoever else, have told the world their plans.
Sound logic, their line-up is non existent when you remove all the games that are in their line-up this year, brilliant. You not being interested in them, doesn't mean the games don't exist.
This is the attitude that gets companies destroyed. Arrogance and silence.
Go and buy a Xbox or Switch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Imo Nin and MS having a horrible lineup but I don't cry...
This doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Sony, in general, has been pretty bad in PR lately.
These two posts are so bizarre and i don't know what to say. Interested in first-party, yet i'm not. But i will buy them on discount.
Because they announce no partnerships with their competitors (luckily) ?
Sony's PR has been bad lately, that much is true.
Sony's cyclical communication pattern though? It's been this way since 2013.
What was bad ?
They are focusing on DG and soon Dreams....
Should they show every second week a new Tlou2 trailer ??
People in this forum live in a bubble where Microsoft is doing great, they're releasing tons of games, features, the cloud is marvelous, there isn't any lag in their implementation of cloud gaming and so on.
The reality is that Microsoft is talking since 3 years: They've release an half assed game like Crackdown 3, a lot of mid tier games that are on PC Too, ported every exclusive on PC and now some of them even on Switch, showed a demo of their cloud technology with tons of lag (in a controlled scenario so at home it can be even worse), released a fantastic console and less than one year later announced that they're working on a next gen console (If you like to throw the money you're welcome).
Why do someone need to talk so much if they can let the fact speech for themselves ?
The Fact are talking about games like God of War and spiderman released less than a year ago, Day's Gone next to launch, Dreams coming in this year and 3 Big Games to release before the next gen console. Why do you want them to talk about what's in the work when they can do that in a presentation with the new console? It doesn't make any sense imho.
The reality is that Microsoft is talking since 3 years: They've release an half assed game like Crackdown 3, a lot of mid tier games that are on PC Too, ported every exclusive on PC and now some of them even on Switch, showed a demo of their cloud technology with tons of lag (in a controlled scenario so at home it can be even worse), released a fantastic console and less than one year later announced that they're working on a next gen console (If you like to throw the money you're welcome).
Why do someone need to talk so much if they can let the fact speech for themselves ?
The Fact are talking about games like God of War and spiderman released less than a year ago, Day's Gone next to launch, Dreams coming in this year and 3 Big Games to release before the next gen console. Why do you want them to talk about what's in the work when they can do that in a presentation with the new console? It doesn't make any sense imho.
I said PR.
Stuff relating to the crossplay access and Shawn's assertion being refuted by the developers.
Have you seen the news about Days Gone ?
Phil can show whatever he wants about Xbox but when it come to games Sony is in a different league and will take MS years to be able to compete.
Phil can show whatever he wants about Xbox but when it come to games Sony is in a different league and will take MS years to be able to compete.
"Sony didnt just die - it murdered itself"
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If there's nothing to say, there's nothing to say. Its that simple. Things will be shared when they have news, and until then they do pretty good work over at the blog.
Good thing they aren't being silent, games speak louder than tweets. You don't know what arrogance means.
Sony has much more stuff announced than MS or Nintendo right now.
I don't know why people feel that Sony isn't showing us enough about their future plans.
Is it just because, unlike Microsoft, they haven't name dropped their next gen console now? Whats the worth in doing that? We know nothing more about the next Xbox than we know about the next Playstation.
I don't know why people feel that Sony isn't showing us enough about their future plans.
Is it just because, unlike Microsoft, they haven't name dropped their next gen console now? Whats the worth in doing that? We know nothing more about the next Xbox than we know about the next Playstation.
So.....why you buy a ps? There are more options maybe ps isn't the right choice for your tastes
The PS4 is here and it works great. There's plenty of games in development, which their own devs and publishers can talk about when they feel ready to. If other platforms get ports of previously exclusive games, good for them. I don't feel like Sony needs to address anything here.
In due time, they will announce PS5, but I'm not in a hurry.
In due time, they will announce PS5, but I'm not in a hurry.
Are you saying this as a negative?
This is only a positive thing, and more should adopt this line of thought.
Can you really blame them?
PS4 gen is pretty much over, consumers can't really complain because it has been a great gen, Sony decided to save resources for the big launch of PS5 next year.
It's not that crazy, because they'll have to prove Playstation can compete in hardware, software and services against Microsoft, Nintendo and now Google also.
MS yes, Nintendo no.
PS4 gen is pretty much over, consumers can't really complain because it has been a great gen, Sony decided to save resources for the big launch of PS5 next year.
It's not that crazy, because they'll have to prove Playstation can compete in hardware, software and services against Microsoft, Nintendo and now Google also.
MS yes, Nintendo no.
They have so much announced already though. Also I feel like they're building up to something big i.e PS5.
As a Nintendo fan I do understand wanting to know more about what's coming but Sony has already shown so many big games for this year.
As a Nintendo fan I do understand wanting to know more about what's coming but Sony has already shown so many big games for this year.
What get's companies 'destroyed' is misreading their core consumers. From Kinect to streaming to low quality exclusives. Not to mention cutting off a generation early when tens of millions of gamers have only bought their systems in the last few seasons.
Meanwhile, 'arrogant' Sony have half a dozen major AAA titles lined-up for their 100m+ userbase. While still having their foot hard on the accelerator marketing the PS4.
If competitors in the market want to cut this generation short and make promises for the future. I'm sure Sony (and Nintendo) will be happy to deliver to those new & existing customers.
One of the bigger reasons Microsoft is so active right now is because they want people to especially look towards the future. New developers bought, new services and platforms. Because they desperately want to move past this gen and have people talk about the future of Xbox instead of the present of Xbox. They know this gen is completely lost and thus want to try their best to have people look towards the future and are doing everything possible to make people look there.
Sony on the other hand is fine with its current situation, they just got off 2 massive hits, with one of them sweeping award after award. They still have multiple big hitters coming this gen and can IMO afford to stay quiet because of the things they have left for the console and suddenly come up big and surprise people with the PS5.
Sony on the other hand is fine with its current situation, they just got off 2 massive hits, with one of them sweeping award after award. They still have multiple big hitters coming this gen and can IMO afford to stay quiet because of the things they have left for the console and suddenly come up big and surprise people with the PS5.
The next time Sony has something big to say its going to be the PlayStation 5 reveal. I don't expect anything until after E3.
Also anyone using the "arrogant Sony" meme seriously is just a gigantic console warrior.
Also anyone using the "arrogant Sony" meme seriously is just a gigantic console warrior.
As a Playstation only gamer I've got to say I'm pretty happy with my PS4 right now,lots of great games still to come too.
I don't need to hear anything from Sony just because others are being very vocal.I'm looking forward to a PS5 announcement but with so many games still to come before that this so called silence is a non issue tbh.
I don't need to hear anything from Sony just because others are being very vocal.I'm looking forward to a PS5 announcement but with so many games still to come before that this so called silence is a non issue tbh.
It'll probably be The Last of Us 2's release date, but I think their next conference type announcement will be PS5.
What exactly do they have to say?
They have a bunch of games coming and will talk about them once they get closer to the release. This helps the developers work on them until they are ready to talk.
Quantum Dreams? They don't need to talk about them as they are not thier studio. Talk to QD about that instead.
PS Now? They will improve it when they need to. (Not as if they haven't been improving it, Downloadable games and PS2 games come to mind).
The only thing they need to talk about is cross play.
They have a bunch of games coming and will talk about them once they get closer to the release. This helps the developers work on them until they are ready to talk.
Quantum Dreams? They don't need to talk about them as they are not thier studio. Talk to QD about that instead.
PS Now? They will improve it when they need to. (Not as if they haven't been improving it, Downloadable games and PS2 games come to mind).
The only thing they need to talk about is cross play.
I would actually say they are ramping up towards the end of the generation, just like last gen. (2013 was a great year for Ps3 exclusives wise, despite Ps4 releasing late 2013)
2018 had tons of exclusives and for 2019 and 2020 there are still Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2, Dreams, Medievil, Death Stranding and Ghosts Of Tsushima lined up.
Since 2016 Sony has delivered a lot every year and actually increased/improved their output from year to year so far and it doesn't look like thats going to change in 2019/20.
Its also obvious that Horizon Second Dawn, next gen Gran Turismo, God Of War 2, Bloodborne 2, Spider-Man 2 and more titles are in production for Ps5, but its just not necessary to talk about Ps5 or Ps5 games already.
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