Yeah, it's their only shot it Sony ever decided to not play ball at all.
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Sony renames their cinematic universe as "Sony's Spider-Man Universe" (previously "Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Characters")
- Thread starter The Artisan
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Yeah, it's their only shot it Sony ever decided to not play ball at all.
maybe they leave Tom in the MCU and have Andrew or Tobey be in the Spidey MCU and everyone wins.
Yup, that's my point, as long as Feige has the animated TV option, Spidey is never truly out of the MCU now that we have Disney+ being a core distribution channel for MCU material. Even if Tom Holland is contractually locked out by Sony they can still bring his version of the character back and have him be voiced by someone else.
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Because Spider verse is for when they introduce MCU Miles duh
Why the hell would anyone want to see a heterosexual version of Venom?
Why can't Sony just make their own Spider-Man for their particular universe? And leave Holland and friends with Disney? I'd like to see an adult Peter not worrying about school or prom or whatever.
Sony Pictures is such a fuck up branch.
If they were smart they would've just got a talented Feige like person and boot their own side universe with Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen, and do occasional Miles/Gwen/Peter multiverse shenanigans with the MCU.
But noooo, we have to take a huge shit on a good partnership to reattempt Amazing Spiderman 2 tier quality again.
If they were smart they would've just got a talented Feige like person and boot their own side universe with Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen, and do occasional Miles/Gwen/Peter multiverse shenanigans with the MCU.
But noooo, we have to take a huge shit on a good partnership to reattempt Amazing Spiderman 2 tier quality again.
You skipped the best Spider-Man film of the last decade? Damn.
Would be a dream movie for me - just let Raimi do whatever he wants with the movie and it'll be golden!
I agree with this. My ideal Spider-Man film would be the Chris Pine version we briefly got in Into the Spider-Verse.
Rotten Tomatoes
Spider-Man: 90%
Spider-Man 2: 93%
Spider-Man 3: 63%
The Amazing Spider-Man: 72%
The Amazing Spider-Man 2: 51%
Venom: 29%
Into the Spider-Verse: 97%
I mean, from an objective standpoint. Sony has only released 2 universally, critically panned Spider-Man films. Venom 2 and Morbius will probably be bad. Kraven (JC Chandor has yet to make a bad film) and Spider-Woman (Same with Olivia Wilde, although smaller sample size) probably will be good films. Into the Spider-Verse 2 and the Spider Gwen spinoff will be great. Sony Pictures TV + Lord and Miller probably means the TV Universe will be great.
So, it's a bit of a stretch to say that they'll be shit content, but ymmv.
While I agree that SPE is a weak division that should ultimately be divested, how many savant comic book nerd high level executives that care more about the nerdy aspect than the money like Feige are there? If Chapek runs Feige out of the company I guarantee everyone will be trying to snatch him up.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the first 2 Raimi movies, they're the gold standard for what Spider-Man should be IMO, but everything after that just REALLY bad, I'm talking about live action here, into the spider-verse is amazing, but they will fuck it up. Sony doesn't know what makes a great movie great, so they can repeat and improve.
There's a reason he died in Into the Spider-Verse. The "perfect Peter" doesn't exist.
Now, a version based on Peter B. Parker? That's the stuff.
Their new name obviously is way better lol. Here's hoping for a Spider-Verse 2 announcement trailer next year.
I meant age wise. I believe he was 27 or 28 in the film. So a couple years older than PS4 Spider-Man. I think Jake Johnson Peter Parker was a almost 40? Which I wouldn't be opposed to either.
But I wouldn't say he was the "Perfect Peter." He was essentially Peter B. Parker 10 years before (divorce, jadedness, etc.).
Pine did nail the swagger of adult Spider-Man though. I wish he got more screen time (or if he's Ultimate Peter, they bring him back to life).
Oh, you want something closer to current comic Spider-Man.
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I think part of the reason why Far From Home's box office was so big was because it released hot off of the heels of Endgame. Those movies were about two months apart.
In my opinion quality wise, Far From Home was just as good as Homecoming. Not any better, not any worse. And Homecoming didn't beat the box office revenue of Spider-Man 3.
Far from home having 100% of the high school get snapped for no discernable reason was a big eye roll moment for me
that is not part of the Cinematic Universe this thread is about
If I was running Sony a Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen film with Emma Stone would already be filming, Andrew would get a cash truckload just to be killed off, Feige could keep Tom Holland and do whatever they wanted as long as we keep the profits. But yknow a Kraven movie is cool too
I think the Spider-man ride at California Adventure also bodes well for a long term deal with Sony since if Sony/Holland were done with the MCU we probably would have seen a ride based on a different character.
With the whole Multiverse thing they can probably just officially designate Sony's universe as universe S-4658 and let them do whatever with it, so long as Disney also get Holland for their own stuff.
Feige's brought in so much money to Disney that I'd like to think there'd be an internal revolt if Chapek let that happen. It's not like anyone seems to particularly like Chapek to begin with.
Feige's brought in so much money to Disney that I'd like to think there'd be an internal revolt if Chapek let that happen. It's not like anyone seems to particularly like Chapek to begin with.
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you mean 100% of Peter's high school friends right? because there was a character in that movie that used to be younger than the main cast and after the snap back, was the same age as all of them
I mean in named characters terms that's Ned, Aunt May, MJ, Betty, Peter and Flash
No different than all the guardians and strange getting snapped while Tony and Nebula got spared.
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I said this in the NwH trailer thread and I don't know if this is true, but one thing that I heard was that Sony was always going to go with a Spider-Verse story for Tom Holland's Spider-Man 3. They would have just substituted Dr. Strange with Madame Web.
I am curious to see if there is a recent spike in digital sales of the Raimi trilogy due to the new spider-man NWH trailer. If so, then I have a feeling Sony will be willing to renegotiate a contract to get spider-man into more MCU films.
I feel the opposite. First, Sony being Sony, I bet they think they can trick everyone into thinking that their future Spider-Man movies are still the MCU (Remember how many bogus industry rumors we got about Amazing Spider-Man sharing the skyline with Avengers 1, or how Holland was going to appear on Venom -Those probably were started by Sony themselves- ), and get the movie to 1.5 billion, or whatever unrealistic goal they have, without sharing the revenue.
Probably they think the franchise they have (Tobey, and Tom Holland by themselves) is the one attracting audiences, not the MCU or the quality of the movies themselves. And those digital sales fuel that, probably the executives are texting among themselves "See! We don't need Marvel Studios, people love our franchise, let's exploit that! Also what music is Gen-Z listening now to put in the final battle??"
Probably they think the franchise they have (Tobey, and Tom Holland by themselves) is the one attracting audiences, not the MCU or the quality of the movies themselves. And those digital sales fuel that, probably the executives are texting among themselves "See! We don't need Marvel Studios, people love our franchise, let's exploit that! Also what music is Gen-Z listening now to put in the final battle??"