This is kind of a side tangent, but I think the Wii sales are more impressive than people give it credit for. It sold what it did with essentially no significant revision that would prompt people to buy another. The PS2 had updated version, the DS did, Xbox consoles did, the PS3 and PS4 both did (PS and Xbox One have the Pro and the X).
Yeah that's insane. Can't believe they've only lowered the price $100 and it still sell like crazy. It's a weird generation in that way, it's been very few price cuts on all platforms.It even more amazing when you remember that its MSRP is STILL $299.99
Imagine what happens when Sony finally lowers it to $199.99...
That's 15M shipped before April 1st 2020. Before then we will get Death Stranding and FF7R. TLOU2 and Ghosts of Tsunami are still not yet dated, and there is a slim chance TLOU2 cloud be out before April.The 100m club has a new member. There expecting 15m this year as well?? Thats big estimate for its final year before ps5.
Not a feasible comparison, imho, since PS4 increase is based on units while Xbox decline is by revenues.
EDIT
HOLY FUCK! That +2,7% actually was by revenue, too. How the fuck did they do that?!
lmao
Thanks :)Didn't expect the PS4 to reach 100 millions this quarter, impressive. And as always great op ArmGunar
Top 5 officially :Also holy shit at 1B in software! :O How many other consoles/handhelds managed those numbers?
Wow, that's a pretty exclusive club!Thanks :)
Top 5 officially :
But we all know that DS could be much higher and X360 may surely be in the top 5
- PS2 : 1.537B games (as of end of March 2012)
- PS4 : > 1B games (as of June 2019)
- PS3 : 999.4m games (as of March 2019)
- PS1 : 962m games (as of March 2012)
- DS : 948.66m games
Enjoy it, Sony, I don't believe the next generation will be as easy.
Thats pretty damn crazy.Top 5 officially :
But we all know that DS should be much higher and X360 may surely be in the top 5
- PS2 : 1.537B games (as of end of March 2012)
- PS4 : > 1B games (as of June 2019)
- PS3 : 999.4m games (as of March 2019)
- PS1 : 962m games (as of March 2012)
- DS : 948.66m games
As far as q1 is concerned, first party full games, results were basically as expected. Have not changed assumptions going forward
But for add-on and F2P there was a significant gap vs expectations, especially F2P titles, revenue was significantly lower. Therefore lower forecast.
PS+ , the number of subcribers is down a bit, but was expected. For full year we expect this segment to grow moderately.
This is kind of a side tangent, but I think the Wii sales are more impressive than people give it credit for. It sold what it did with essentially no significant revision that would prompt people to buy another. The PS2 had updated version, the DS did, Xbox consoles did, the PS3 and PS4 both did (PS and Xbox One have the Pro and the X).
For that reason I think it's tough to compare it to other consoles. PS1 as well (though I'm not super familiar with the different PS1 models). I think even though they've been surpassed the Wii and PS1 exist in a class of their own.
Interesting - in the Q+A, Sony noted in particular an unexpected weakness this quarter in F2P revenues. I wonder if that's a general trend in the industry.
Paraphrasing:
Usually they lost money during Q1 so that's an improvementI'm pretty surprised the pictures part of Sony made no real profit.
Thanks for that, after record revenues in 2018 for Fortnite, it was expected to see less revenues nowInteresting - in the Q+A, Sony noted in particular an unexpected weakness this quarter in F2P revenues. I wonder if that's a general trend in the industry.
Paraphrasing:
We will soon see a new Forbes article to spin these numbers for sure.100m reached. Impressive, as is the fact that hardware sales actually showed a very small YoY growth (+2.7%) despite being so late in its life cycle. Makes the Xbox's huge -48% hardware decline look even more dire in comparison.
So that means Days Gone did as excepted which is good.Interesting - in the Q+A, Sony noted in particular an unexpected weakness this quarter in F2P revenues. I wonder if that's a general trend in the industry.
Paraphrasing:
History can only tell so much. The expectations are changing, and with streaming consoles becoming the new standard, traditional consoles will become more niche.
I suspect a price cut too near the launch of PS5, should do gangbusters.With Death Stranding, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and Last of Us 2 coming up, it is going to be absolutely crazy.
Fairly clear signal in the earnings q+a there, not to expect big price movement on PS4.
Paraphrasing:
'Sales are flat YoY this quarter. Revision down to 15m consoles for the year. Looking at competitors we might expect some downward trend. We have also provided some information about the next generation console. We are not forcing the expansion of the current console. We aim to achieve profit and a smooth shift [to next gen], and to maintain profitability.'
Of course they might maintain profitability while cutting cost, with a new revision. But...certainly it sounds like the focus is on maintaining margins rather than aggressively expanding volumes.
The drawback will be availability and people's Internet. People thinking Game Streaming is going to be the standard soon (within the next gen) are going to be in for a surprise. It won't even support most regions for years yet.It's become dramatically better, and all it takes is a compelling package in order to upend the whole industry. We'll see if Google and Microsoft will offer that, but I am certain streaming will become the new standard sooner or later. There are too many advantages, and the drawbacks, no game ownerships, are non-issues to most people. That's been eroded for years of digital releases anyway.
With Death Stranding, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and Last of Us 2 coming up, it is going to be absolutely crazy.