Sony PlayStation: First Party Studios |OT4| Because we're skipping 3

Sonicfan059 · Feb 15, 2019

ArkhamFantasy said:
Bungie isn't going to abandon 10+ million of their fans by making an exclusive deal with a platform holder.

They abandoned that many players with the original Halo when they agreed to be bought by Microsoft. I don't see them being bought out or even making Destiny 3 exclusive but I don't see it impossible for Sony to collaborate on a new shooter with them although unlikely.

ty_hot · Feb 15, 2019

Gimme SOCOM, Resistance, Killzone or Warhawk. Any of those would be nuts.

Funky_Monkey · Feb 15, 2019

I think my ideal multi-player would be a Sony Battle Royal based on the Naughty Dog multiplayer system. You could have regular events like the Infinity Gauntlet event in Fortnite, where one player gets to become a legendary PlayStation figure. Instead of becoming Thanos, someone would find the Leviathan and become Kratos, or find an item and become Aloy.

It would be another way of doing a PlayStation All-Stars.

DriftingSpirit · Feb 15, 2019

Those GG and SSM hires though.

Gravity Insanity · Feb 15, 2019

I almost forgot. Every time Naughty Dog releases a game, that very same year we get an announcement of their newest game. So that's always exciting.

DriftingSpirit · Feb 15, 2019

Savage Starlight tease this year.

Stixitnu · Feb 15, 2019

janusff said:
Yup. Agree 100%. I'm thinking Arrowhead should release whatever game they're on for PS5 launch. Spiritual successor to helldivers or something would be rad.

I'm trying to will HellDivers 2 into existence

Dabi3 · Feb 15, 2019

Anyone think we're getting a Dreams release date with the upcoming "update" announcement from MM? Desperately need that game in my life.

JuanLatino · Feb 15, 2019

i rather a have new Shooter IP than another Killzone

Maybe GG will go back to this Project

JehutyRunner · Feb 15, 2019

Dabi3 said:
Anyone think we're getting a Dreams release date with the upcoming "update" announcement from MM? Desperately need that game in my life.

More than likely. It'll be six years since they first teased it at the PlayStation 4 reveal. It'd be rather apt if they announce the release date on the 20th.

IvanSlavkov · Feb 15, 2019

Give me a new Killzone in the veins of 2. No BR mode, but a 30vs30 warzone mode with multiple objective changing and I'll be happy as f*ck. Throw in a good SP, this time only as Helghan and I'll buy all editions day one. Loved and played the shit out of KZ2, KZ3 and SF mp.

scrambledeggs · Feb 15, 2019

z1yin9c said:
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Bless Druckmann and Naughty Dog for openly embracing the LGBT+ community, whether that be through their inclusion of LGBT+ characters in their games or promoting super dope fanart like this. I hope that TLOU2 turns out to be hella gay, like I'm praying for it to be tbh. We're already heading there with the soft butch flannel-wearing dumbass lesbian representation with Ellie, her bi GF, and Seattle (Capitol Hill baybeh), I hope we get more.

But damn imagine all the losers getting triggered by portrayal of LGBT people and couples in the art/entertainment medium. How ever will these bigots get through ND's (gayest) masterpiece lol.

Betty · Feb 15, 2019

Killzone needs to stay dead and buried, it had more than enough chances to hit it big and it just never quite took off the way Sony wanted it to.

Guerrilla games can do better.

Shairi · Feb 15, 2019

get2sammyb said:
The absolute best time, in my opinion, for Sony to release a "service" type multiplayer game is free-to-play alongside the launch of the PS5. I honestly believe they'd be pissing into the wind on PS4 with so many dedicated communities already out there, but if they can get out something really cool at launch of PS5 and then iterate on it throughout the gen, that's when the iron is hot.

But that's just my opinion.

I think Shawn already said that their new push for multiplayer games will happen for the new term (next gen). And yeah, a f2p model alongside a console launch can help a game a lot. I think that helped war thunder massively at the beginning of this gen. But this time around it will be a bit different. Those dedicated communities on PS4 won't vanish.
Fortnite, Apex and all these games won't go anywhere. They will be there day one on PS5. Also, I'm not sure if Sony will try f2p again after all their failed attempts in this gen. I'm also pretty sure that they won't go for a battle royal game.

Cyberia said:
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/about/careers/#careerlistings

Holy. Shit.

Yeah, Sony Santa Monica has 41 job openings on their homepage.

http://sms.playstation.com/careers/

That's a lot of openings. Maybe they really want to go for 1 1/2 teams. Or they're trying to get God of War 2 ready for a release in early 2021.

TiG · Feb 15, 2019

Shairi said:
Yeah, Sony Santa Monica has 41 job openings on their homepage.

http://sms.playstation.com/careers/

That's a lot of openings. Maybe they really want to go for 1 1/2 teams. Or they're trying to get God of War 2 ready for a release in early 2021.

This makes me so excited for GOW on PS5. They are probably also staffing up a preproduction team for a new ip.

DriftingSpirit · Feb 15, 2019

God of War 2 and a new IP getting prepped and then go in the oven after GoW2 comes out.

I also vote for new IP shooter from GG. It is just more exciting all around. A complete fresh start for something entirely unknown.

BabyDontHurtMe · Feb 15, 2019

Cyberia said:
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/about/careers/#careerlistings

Holy. Shit.

That's a new team in itself. Santa Monica must be over 300 people now.

Testobjekt · Feb 15, 2019

Dabi3 said:
Anyone think we're getting a Dreams release date with the upcoming "update" announcement from MM? Desperately need that game in my life.

I hope so. Release on March 5th as part of the March PS Plus lineup. Not going to happen, but that would be dope.

Deleted member 36493 · Feb 15, 2019

Didn't Cory say he wanted more people so they could do more varied bosses? Because they only had a certain amount of people available to do the bosses and it took them like 6 months for each one?

BabyDontHurtMe · Feb 15, 2019

Tonky said:
Didn't Cory say he wanted more people so they could do more varied bosses? Because they only had a certain amount of people available to do the bosses and it took them like 6 months for each one?

There's also the initiative from Sony in expanding their already existing first-party studios. Sucker Punch, Bend, I'm guessing Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Guerrilla Games, and PixelOpus (and XDEV but they mainly help other devs) have all moved to a new studio, expanded their team size, or have multiple projects in development. So this could be as a result of management putting more resources in their first-party studios rather than a decision exclusively made by game directors.

vivftp · Feb 15, 2019

I got it! Instead of making another All Star Battle Royale game, how about we get some sort of game where we jump from PlayStation franchise to franchise and interact with their main characters? So jump from God of War to Horizon to TLOU to Astro Bot and so on. Make it some grand, epic story, the sort of crap Sony is known for. They'd have to be careful to ensure each world and main character behaves properly, but if they're doing it with exclusives that shouldn't be too hard. Each franchise could be a grand adventure where you team up with that worlds hero as part of a bigger quest. You can even cross over the characters, I'd love to see Kratos take down a Thunderjaw from Horizon!

Anyone think it could work? :)

Deleted member 15973 · Feb 16, 2019

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modiz · Feb 16, 2019

PleaseDontHurtMe said:
That's a new team in itself. Santa Monica must be over 300 people now.

santa monica stuios's size shrinked by a signifcant margin post GoW's launch, they are just regaining lost staff in preperations for the next game.

nolifebr · Feb 16, 2019

Also had that rumor that Santa Monica was building back the external studio they had at the PS3/early PS4 era.

modiz · Feb 16, 2019

nolifebr said:
Also had that rumor that Santa Monica was building back the external studio they had at the PS3/early PS4 era.

well they did have "external development" positions, but i am not sure if they are redoing that program again or if it is just outsourcing for the next game.

Alandring · Feb 16, 2019

For Guerrilla Games, I don't care if they use the Killzone IP or create a new one. I enjoyed Shadow Fall, but as long as the new game is a single player FPS with a good story, I don't care about the IP used. If they need a new IP to sell it easier to consumers, go.

Humam · Feb 16, 2019

modiz said:
santa monica stuios's size shrinked by a signifcant margin post GoW's launch

When did this happen ? I searched and couldn't find anything.

Loudninja · Feb 16, 2019

Humam said:
When did this happen ?

When they cancelled a project in 2014

Humam · Feb 16, 2019

Loudninja said:
When they cancelled a project in 2014

I thought the poster above was saying after GoW 2018 launch.

modiz · Feb 16, 2019

Humam said:
When did this happen ?

as i said, after the game's launch the studio decreased in size, you could have seen that with their very low linkedin developer counts back then.
right now they are still listed at 131, which means that they did not grow much so far from the last time i have checked, they were definitely bigger pre GoW release.
however all the positions that are listed now are promising.
anyway dont worry about that, it is perfectly normal for a studio to shrink in size after finishing a game they were hard at work at for years.

Loudninja said:
When they cancelled a project in 2014

they grew back when GoW was deep in development, but now they shrunk in size again.

gundamkyoukai · Feb 16, 2019

Humam said:
When did this happen ? I searched and couldn't find anything.

When Stig new IP get cancel years ago .
They have been building back up since nGOW.
They will most likely end up bigger than they have ever been.

I expect all of Sony studios to be the biggest they ever been heading into next gen .

Loudninja · Feb 16, 2019

modiz said:
as i said, after the game's launch the studio decreased in size, you could have seen that with their very low linkedin developer counts back then.
right now they are still listed at 131, which means that they did not grow much so far from the last time i have checked, they were definitely bigger pre GoW release.
however all the positions that are listed now are promising.
anyway dont worry about that, it is perfectly normal for a studio to shrink in size after finishing a game they were hard at work at for years.

they grew back when GoW was deep in development, but now they shrunk in size again.

Eh their site mention they have over 200 now.

modiz · Feb 16, 2019

just to be clear as people seem to misunderstand what i am saying, they were not fired. it is people who left after the game shipped.

Loudninja said:
Eh their site mention they have over 200 now.

hmm thats a good sign.

speaking of studio sizes, naughty dog are now over 450 developers if linkedin is correct, that sounds pretty big.

super.modulaire · Feb 16, 2019

I don't think Sony should use an established IP like Killzone for a new big next-gen multiplayer title.

Quite a few of their biggest releases in the next 3 years or so will be sequels. TLoU2, Spider-Man 2, GoW2, Horizon 2.

I much prefer a fresh new IP for an exciting new project.

WhovianGamer · Feb 16, 2019

I'm loving the direction that SIE is going in with their studios, but I do really miss their indie incubation projects. Having ThatGameCompany or Giant Sparrow, or even strong connections with a range of other smaller but creative teams was a real string to their bow.

Angie · Feb 16, 2019

I still don't get it why Sony went with Medievel and not Ape Escape for a remake.

Give us at least a collection on PSN Sony.

Chainshada · Feb 16, 2019

Angie22 said:
I still don't get it why Sony went with Medievel and not Ape Escape for a remake.

Give us at least a collection on PSN Sony.

Maybe they'll give Ape Escape to Asobi Team.

Deleted member 43220 · Feb 16, 2019

Angie22 said:
I still don't get it why Sony went with Medievel and not Ape Escape for a remake.

Give us at least a collection on PSN Sony.

1- is not "Medievel" but MediEvil, pay respect to one of the first games that implemented 3D back in 1998.

2- Maybe Sony has seen more potential in MediEvil than in Ape Escape. Plus, MediEvil fans made more noise on social media than Ape's fans and here we go.

3- You don't like it? Don't talk about it. Don't refer to MediEvil with a derogatory tone because there are many people who like it and wanted a new game for years.

score01 · Feb 16, 2019

WhovianGamer said:
I'm loving the direction that SIE is going in with their studios, but I do really miss their indie incubation projects. Having ThatGameCompany or Giant Sparrow, or even strong connections with a range of other smaller but creative teams was a real string to their bow.

I miss the smaller projects too. I guess their attention has moved over to VR for these type of projects? Must be a difficult juggling act.

SolidSnakex · Feb 16, 2019

score01 said:
I miss the smaller projects too. I guess their attention has moved over to VR for these type of projects? Must be a difficult juggling act.

It seems more like they've just decreased those games, but they still exist in non-VR form. Concrete Genie is a good example of that. Even MediEvil I feel would fall into that of a smaller project. I think (hope) we'll continue to see more games like those going forward alongside the likes of TLoU, GoW, Spider-Man and so on.

Dragoon · Feb 16, 2019

poklane said:
Horizon 2 at launch (or soon after), GoW2 in 2021 would be amazing

Launch Nov 20 - Horizon 2
Q1-2 21 Gran Turismo 7, BBII
Q3-4 21 Spiderman 2, GOW 2

ty_hot said:
Gimme SOCOM, Resistance, Killzone or Warhawk. Any of those would be nuts.

Soccom to me would make sense as a F2P to scratch that Counter Strike PC itch. Release on Jan 21 and collect money with cosmetics.

SolidSnakex said:
Beefing up so they can also developer Cory's new IP. :)

That's what I think and hope also

QuiteSomething · Feb 16, 2019

I hope Sony will team up with smaller devs for some AA or indie games

Deleted member 5725 · Feb 16, 2019

Chainshada said:
Maybe they'll give Ape Escape to Asobi Team.

I don't think Asobi Team wants to make a remake (or even a new Ape Escape) and I don't think a creative team like that should be tasked with a remake. They said they don't even want to make 'just another' Astro Bot, it should have a lot of innovation behind it to justify a sequel, and that excites me.

Angie · Feb 16, 2019

MarcoDovahkiin said:
1- is not "Medievel" but MediEvil, pay respect to one of the first games that implemented 3D back in 1998.

2- Maybe Sony has seen more potential in MediEvil than in Ape Escape. Plus, MediEvil fans made more noise on social media than Ape's fans and here we go.

3- You don't like it? Don't talk about it. Don't refer to MediEvil with a derogatory tone because there are many people who like it and wanted a new game for years.

I can talk in a derogatory or complimentary way about any game that I want.
If that hurts you, feel free to report me or block me.

Neat · Feb 16, 2019

MarcoDovahkiin said:
1- is not "Medievel" but MediEvil, pay respect to one of the first games that implemented 3D back in 1998.

2- Maybe Sony has seen more potential in MediEvil than in Ape Escape. Plus, MediEvil fans made more noise on social media than Ape's fans and here we go.

3- You don't like it? Don't talk about it. Don't refer to MediEvil with a derogatory tone because there are many people who like it and wanted a new game for years.

Lay off breh. Your tone is completely out of place for what amounts to little more than a harmless, general observation. What's with the hostility?

Pay respect? Derogatory tone? Not sure where you're getting any of that. It's not that serious. Get a grip please.

Triggerhappytel · Feb 16, 2019

N.Domixis said:
Killzone is from an era when people had no respect for Sony's exclusive. It's a damaged brand.

You know what else is from that era? God of War. Ratchet and Clank. Shadow of the Colossus. To name a few.

So yeah, I think the problem with Killzone's success has rested on the quality and consistency of the series itself, not some nebulous and creaky generalisation like that.

Triggerhappytel · Feb 16, 2019

MarcoDovahkiin said:
1- is not "Medievel" but MediEvil, pay respect to one of the first games that implemented 3D back in 1998.

2- Maybe Sony has seen more potential in MediEvil than in Ape Escape. Plus, MediEvil fans made more noise on social media than Ape's fans and here we go.

3- You don't like it? Don't talk about it. Don't refer to MediEvil with a derogatory tone because there are many people who like it and wanted a new game for years.

This is a really weird response to a fairly banal comment. Angie didn't refer to Medievil with a derogatory tone, nor any tone at all. Just pointing out that an Ape Escape collection would have been preferred, to which I concur. Personally there's a ton of games I would have wanted to be remastered before Medievil.

Also, lighten up; it was a typo. "Oh no, you're not paying enough respects by mis-spelling this made up word!"

Lastly, citation definitely needed on "one of the first games that implemented 3D back in 1998". I mean, unless by "one of the first" you mean like one of the first 1000 games to use full 3D? Or one of the first games to use full 3D in 1998; a time when most of the industry was already developing in full 3D so that's a weird distinction to make.

Electro · Feb 16, 2019

I am not a big KZ fan but I like the setting and a ME like 3rd person game in the KZ universe would be amazing.

KZ 2 was really good imo and the fanboy fight between KZ 2 and Halo 3 fans is legendary :D
At least on the site were I was active at this time...

Binabik15 · Feb 16, 2019

I can't hate on space nazi uniforms with glowing red eyes and crazy mechs. Sorry. I hope they come back in some form on PS5.

OG_Thrills · Feb 16, 2019

We really need to find a consensus on PS5 launch games. I'm not sure if this has been addressed but reading throught the last few pages it becomes apparent that in terms of launch titles PS5 is competing with themselves.

GOW & HZD should be given another year. It pains me to admit that especially since HZD is my Game of the gen thus far. But when you consider the magnum opus aka TLOU2 and Ghost Of Tsushima are still viable options.

When you consider that third party are going to want in on PS5's launch hype. Games like Watch Dogs 3 (I thought WD2 was a blast) COD and other games looking to showcase on the new hardware, I don't think it makes much sense for Sony to put their best and brightest in that launch window.
https://screenrant.com/watch-dogs-3-trademark-ubisoft/

Especially since they've made a habit of giving their own ip room to resonate via their launch window And Sam Witwer's (Deacon from Days Gone) interview where he stressed that Sony refuses to compete with themselves.

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